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MasterNetra
November 17th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Here is what Nasa actually says about the stuff regarding 2012 and the gloom and doom junk.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/yoemans20091110.html

In a nutshell they say claim that none of the dooms day scenarios have any real merit. "Nibiru" is a myth there has been no sighting of such a thing. They make note that the Mayan Calendar's long count may stop at Dec 21 2012, it also starts a new period just like our calendars after Dec 31. Also they point out earth's galactic alignment actually happens yearly and its of no consequence. There is more I suppose but that's it in a nutshell.

alphaniner
November 17th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Well, now that NASA has chimed in we can all rest easy.

/sarcasm

MasterNetra
November 17th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Well, now that NASA has chimed in we can all rest easy.

/sarcasm

Well either way I have no doubt they are at least correct about the Mayan Calendar and the fact the Galactic core alignment will have no effect. Mainly because we are technically always aligned with the galactic core in a similar fashion to how we are technically always align with the sun. As for the Calendar, the mayans believed time went in circles (in-contrast to our normal believe that its straight) thus the long count won't ever truly be done, it will just keep looping.

ExSuSEusr
November 17th, 2009, 06:30 PM
No where in any Mayan literature, stories, art, or anything else did they claim the world was coming to and end in 2012. That's a bunch of Hollywood hype and what the ignorant are screaming cause they heard so and so said this or that.

The calander ends in 2012 - that's it. No predictions of world ending catastrophies, nothing of the sort.

Use your brain and stop buying into the Hollywood misquided completely wrong hype. After all, sinse when has Hollywood ever gotten ANYTHING right, let alone history?

Sealbhach
November 17th, 2009, 06:44 PM
When I first heard people talking about 2012 they were talking about a spiritual event. The number of people who had reached a certain level of consciousness would for the first time be enough to trigger a massive increase in "positive spiritual energies" or something like that. This was a few years ago and we were all very stoned. There was nothing about disasters or the world ending or anything.

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NERDMAN!
November 17th, 2009, 06:50 PM
personally i dont think its going to happen.
like the large hadron collider experiment, and a y2k bug, and a thousand end of the world theories before those. the only thing that will happen is we cross into a new year and the doomsday theorists get proven wrong once again.
as for the mayan callendar it ends at 2012 because of the planets orbital "wobble".
thats why each year we get further away from the sun in winter and closer to it in summer. the wobble will reset in 2012. the mayans thought of this as a spiritual event and probably thought it meant the world would end. theres no scientific basis around the theorie.

RabbitWho
November 17th, 2009, 06:52 PM
That's exactly what NASA said about the plague in the middle ages. Of course they don't like to talk about their involvement in t hat now!

I'm far more afraid of particle accelerators than any ancient predictions based on numerology.

LinuxFanBoi
November 17th, 2009, 06:55 PM
When the end comes, if I'm alive I'll be front row center for it. I have no intention of going to china and I get sea sick on boats.

toupeiro
November 17th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Riight, because NASA has enough hard data to trend the scale of time illustrated in the Mayan calendar to say such a thing with any more merit than the predictions around the Mayan calendar.

/MoreSarcasm

It's okay to say "You know, I really have no clue whats going to happen." It sort of makes it more exciting...

MasterNetra
November 17th, 2009, 07:03 PM
personally i dont think its going to happen.
like the large hadron collider experiment, and a y2k bug, and a thousand end of the world theories before those. the only thing that will happen is we cross into a new year and the doomsday theorists get proven wrong once again.
as for the mayan callendar it ends at 2012 because of the planets orbital "wobble".
thats why each year we get further away from the sun in winter and closer to it in summer. the wobble will reset in 2012. the mayans thought of this as a spiritual event and probably thought it meant the world would end. theres no scientific basis around the theorie.

The mayans have never claimed that the world would end in 2012, our current age will come to the end. The Doomsday Theorists are just pulling addtional crap from their rumps. The Mayans had multiple calendars actually, short count and long count to name two. The Long count is due for a reset after Dec 21 2002, the long count is deals with the current age. We will be entering the age of Aquarius on Dec 21,2012, we are currently in the age of pisces. Each age I believe last for 2,000 years.

toupeiro
November 17th, 2009, 07:05 PM
The calander ends in 2012 - that's it. No predictions of world ending catastrophies, nothing of the sort.


Once apon a time, there was a man named Nostradamus. The man was pretty wise, and errily accurate. While this doesn't set it in stone that the world ends in 2012, it certainly blows your notion of no predictions around it out of the water. I agree that the date marks the end of an age, over a scale of time that may potentially expand beyond man's dominance of the earth. We think our civilization is so advanced because of the technology we can create, but it painfully exposes our weakness in understanding the universe and the world around us without that technology. The Mayans and the Incans didn't have google earth and GPS, nor CAD programs to design their cities. Yet, its amazing to learn what they knew about things like astronomy and their concept of measuring time without all the things we have that do it for us.

Its amazing how many people cannot be comfortable in their own skin to take the stance of openly admitting to know nothing about what that date signifies.

armageddon08
November 17th, 2009, 07:12 PM
When I first heard people talking about 2012 they were talking about a spiritual event. The number of people who had reached a certain level of consciousness would for the first time be enough to trigger a massive increase in "positive spiritual energies" or something like that. This was a few years ago and we were all very stoned. There was nothing about disasters or the world ending or anything.

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The same thing is also given in Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol.

MasterNetra
November 17th, 2009, 07:13 PM
Once apon a time, there was a man named Nostradamus. The man was pretty wise, and errily accurate. While this doesn't set it in stone that the world ends in 2012, it certainly blows your notion of no predictions around it out of the water.

/BooksandHistoryChannelFTW

His predictions SEEM accurate only because they are generally vague enough to seem to fulfil things.

toupeiro
November 17th, 2009, 07:16 PM
His predictions SEEM accurate only because they are generally vague enough to seem to fulfil things.

riight.. So which part is vague about 911, the part where he said two towers would burn to the ground, or the fact that he got it right down to the part of the decade it would happen in? Could it be chance, sure it could! I'm not willing to say I know enough to state that as fact.

Again, everybody has to be right, nobody is comfortable admitting that they simply can't understand, ergo do not know whats going to happen.

CJ Master
November 17th, 2009, 07:20 PM
It's obviously a government conspiracy. Duh.

Paqman
November 17th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Riight, because NASA has enough hard data to trend the scale of time illustrated in the Mayan calendar to say such a thing with any more merit than the predictions around the Mayan calendar.


I can't work out if you're being serious in your sarcasm.

NASA has astronomical data that goes back to shortly after the Big Bang. I think that significantly predates what the Mayans were capable of.

mivo
November 17th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Well, now that NASA has chimed in we can all rest easy. /sarcasm

Perhaps not reading the yellow press will help you sleep more peacefully?

End of world scenarios come and go, and the globe just continues to turn. The Maya were a culture that sacrificed humans, including babies, to pacify their imaginary gods. Superstition at its most dangerous and destructive.

Besides, the Maya didn't even predict the end of the world for 2012. So, stop being so dramatic and so fascinated with sensationalism. Plus, at some point you die anyway, so relax and enjoy life. The moment is all you have.

MasterNetra
November 17th, 2009, 07:26 PM
riight.. So which part is vague about 911, the part where he said two towers would burn to the ground, or the fact that he got it right down to the part of the decade it would happen in? Could it be chance, sure it could! I'm not willing to say I know enough to state that as fact.

Again, everybody has to be right, nobody is comfortable admitting that they simply can't understand, ergo do not know whats going to happen.

Maybe, maybe not, you assume just because burning and two towers are involved that it must be the trade centers. Now it might be or might not be. It is still jumping to a conclusion. Their are after all more then one pair of skyscrapers in the world and there is nothing concrete saying that he is actually referring to the trade center incident.

bonfire89
November 17th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Unless NASA is trying to cover something up I personally would not discredit what they are saying.

Although, I don't think this is true, it is possible that they purposely went in the direction they did to make people feel at ease.

As for Nostradamus... a few curiosity arousing vague hits.... at least hundreds of complete misses.

toupeiro
November 17th, 2009, 07:31 PM
I can't work out if you're being serious in your sarcasm.

NASA has astronomical data that goes back to shortly after the Big Bang. I think that significantly predates what the Mayans were capable of.

LOL, I am being a little of both. ;) All the big bang theory is is a point in time that "something" happened and the universe as we know it became. Scientists don't even understand what it is other than a marker in time for the universe as we know it. If you think NASA can paint a wholistic picture of the lifetime of the universe back to the big bang, then their Kool-aid they're giving you is too good to be true. ;) If that could be done, all religious merit could be discarded in its entirety to the matter. Obviously, if you look at the world around you, this is not the case.

I'll emphasize my point again, its foolish to think with supreme technology comes supreme understanding of everything technology is meant to interact with, and its okay to be completely unsure about something if there is not enough hard evidence or you lack the faith, whichever is applicable. I'm perfectly content with that. I wish more people were.

ExSuSEusr
November 17th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Once apon a time, there was a man named Nostradamus. The man was pretty wise, and errily accurate. While this doesn't set it in stone that the world ends in 2012, it certainly blows your notion of no predictions around it out of the water. I agree that the date marks the end of an age, over a scale of time that may potentially expand beyond man's dominance of the earth. We think our civilization is so advanced because of the technology we can create, but it painfully exposes our weakness in understanding the universe and the world around us without that technology. The Mayans and the Incans didn't have google earth and GPS, nor CAD programs to design their cities. Yet, its amazing to learn what they knew about things like astronomy and their concept of measuring time without all the things we have that do it for us.

Its amazing how many people cannot be comfortable in their own skin to take the stance of openly admitting to know nothing about what that date signifies.

Nothing about Nostradamus impresses me. His supposed "predictions" are so freaking vauge and obscure you can apply them to damn near any major event and they'd fit snuggly.

Nothing remotely special about Nostradamus, but TV sure makes him look like a geeenuwine profit no doubt.

toupeiro
November 17th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Nothing about Nostradamus impresses me. His supposed "predictions" are so freaking vauge and obscure you can apply them to damn near any major event and they'd fit snuggly.

Nothing remotely special about Nostradamus, but TV sure makes him look like a geeenuwine profit no doubt.

You're absolutely right. Since you know this so deeply, theres no room for you to be wrong.

:rolleyes:

I think I've made my point, moving on...

mivo
November 17th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Once apon a time, there was a man named Nostradamus. The man was pretty wise, and errily accurate.

Nostradamus was not accurate at all. He was vague, and tiny bits of the whole ton of predictions he made were misconstructed and applied to later events. Always in retrospect, by the way.

Many "psychics" use the same method: they make a large number of predictions, nearly all of which do not come true, and if they said something that may remotely apply to an event, they claim (after the event) that they predicted it. Nevermind that 999 out of a 1000 predictions they made never came to pass. The yellow press, of course, will jump on the one event that a prediction may have some remote, constructed connection to.

The end of the world has been predicted many times. It will be predicted many more times in the next centuries. At some point, someone will be right. What a shame they can't then claim that they were, because the world will have ended. ;)

Paqman
November 17th, 2009, 07:46 PM
LOL, I am being a little of both. ;) All the big bang theory is is a point in time that "something" happened and the universe as we know it became. Scientists don't even understand what it is other than a marker in time for the universe as we know it.

I don't agree with your description of the Big Bang at all. The Big Bang is not just a marker in time, it describes the process of how the early Universe developed.


If you think NASA can paint a wholistic picture of the lifetime of the universe back to the big bang, then their Kool-aid they're giving you is too good to be true. ;)

I think that's a pretty insulting way to make your argument. Grow up, please.

I'm not suggesting NASA have all the data about everything. But they have some pretty damn fine data about astronomy.

LowSky
November 17th, 2009, 08:00 PM
Just because the Mayan calendar ends on our Calender date of 12/21/1212 IT Means nothing.

This is like counting to some randomly high number and then stopping because you get bored. I believe that is all that happened. When asked why he stopped the mathematician said because by then the world will be over. Someone took it to be a serious answer and we have a superstition.

Superstitions are a bunch of stories that parents made up to get the children to do things, like sleep, chores, etc.. At some point adults begin to believe these stories because of something unexplainable to them happens using these made up fictions as place holders or reference points (think lightning hitting the ground and Zeus). Once too many people take these things seriously it becomes religion, once there is hard to uproot.

Its why people believe in ghosts, gods, leprechauns, giants, elves, Bigfoot, Nessie, Chubracabra, voodoo, heaven, hell, astrology, reincarnation, racial supremacy, caste systems, capitalism, socialism, peace, war, and countless other things I know I forgot to mention.

We use excuses for things all the time, and all this is is someones horrible answer tot he unexplainable being taken too seriously.

mivo
November 17th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Bigfoot

But I saw him on a TV show! There is no doubt in my mind that he exists and is real, because I saw him with my very own eyes -- on the screen!*

An interesting trend is that people somehow give more credibility to old and ancient "stuff", as if people that lived 500 or 1000 or 2000 years ago were somehow wiser, more educated and had far deeper insights than we are and have today. Nostradamus is a really good example for this. If something is old, or really old, people are just more prone to believe it, disregarding contrary evidence or even proof of the opposite. Not for its contents, just for its age. It's quite interesting.

Plus, everything, by today's people, is taken so literally, even though ancient writers were not concerned with this so much. Many old or ancients texts, drawings, statues, etc. were written/done for a very different type of people, who lived in a very different time, in a completely different society, and whose messages were meant for these people, not for those in the distant future.

I'm not claiming that we, today, know everything there is. Much more is waiting to be discovered still, but we do know that illnesses are caused by bacteria and viruses, not by demons -- even though the concept of demons "works" in a non-literal way, as bacteria and viruses "possess" us.

* Harry and the Hendersons, if anyone remembers.

alphaniner
November 17th, 2009, 08:21 PM
Perhaps not reading the yellow press will help you sleep more peacefully?

I have no idea what the yellow press refers to. I could guess, but the first thing that came to mind is the yellow pages.

Anyway, my sarcasm was directed first towards the fact that the notion is taken seriously enough for NASA to comment on, and second that NASA's stance on the issue should carry any weight. Their business (to use the term loosely) is aerospace, not astronomy.

johnb820
November 17th, 2009, 08:24 PM
It's funny how we believe what science says to be absolute truth about things that no one on this living planet has observed or recorded.

PuddingKnife
November 17th, 2009, 08:25 PM
This 2012 hysteria is amusing. Ignore real problems, invent crazy ones.

ExSuSEusr
November 17th, 2009, 08:29 PM
But I saw him on a TV show! There is no doubt in my mind that he exists and is real, because I saw him with my very own eyes -- on the screen!*

An interesting trend is that people somehow give more credibility to old and ancient "stuff", as if people that lived 500 or 1000 or 2000 years ago were somehow wiser, more educated and had far deeper insights than we are and have today. Nostradamus is a really good example for this. If something is old, or really old, people are just more prone to believe it, disregarding contrary evidence or even proof of the opposite. Not for its contents, just for its age. It's quite interesting.

Plus, everything, by today's people, is taken so literally, even though ancient writers were not concerned with this so much. Many old or ancients texts, drawings, statues, etc. were written/done for a very different type of people, who lived in a very different time, in a completely different society, and whose messages were meant for these people, not for those in the distant future.

I'm not claiming that we, today, know everything there is. Much more is waiting to be discovered still, but we do know that illnesses are caused by bacteria and viruses, not by demons -- even though the concept of demons "works" in a non-literal way, as bacteria and viruses "possess" us.

* Harry and the Hendersons, if anyone remembers.

I did too! It was something about a couple of guys were eating beef jerky and decided to use one of their bikes to splash water on his little fire. Hillarity ensued as big foot threw a root at one of them smacking him into a tree.

Reality TV can be funny *some times*

LowSky
November 17th, 2009, 08:33 PM
It's funny how we believe what science says to be absolute truth about things that no one on this living planet has observed or recorded.

Name one thing science says is an absolute truth, and is not one?

SCIENCE has laws, if you can only be proven only part of the time or theoretically then it is called THEORY. If you can prove it EVERY TIME it's a PROVEN FACT.

RELIGION doesn't have these "laws" it says to believe because we say so, without using actual PROOF. I find it funny when people rather believe blind faith rather than scientific evidence.

drawkcab
November 17th, 2009, 08:39 PM
This 2012 hysteria is amusing. Ignore real problems, invent crazy ones.

This post wins the thread.

Chronon
November 17th, 2009, 08:43 PM
It's funny how we believe what science says to be absolute truth about things that no one on this living planet has observed or recorded.

Who is "we"? Science is not about absolute truth, it is about building models that help us explain our observations about the physical world.

alphaniner
November 17th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Name one thing science says is an absolute truth, and is not one?

SCIENCE has laws, if you can only be proven only part of the time or theoretically then it is called THEORY. If you can prove it EVERY TIME it's a PROVEN FACT.

Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation. It achieved the title of Law because at the time it fit all the data. When data was found that contradicted it, an imaginary planet was concocted so the Law would remain Universal. Hooray science!

/sarcasm again

I have nothing against science, but I do have a problem when it is treated as anything other than a tool. Science is only as perfect and infallible as its practitioners.

Chronon
November 17th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Name one thing science says is an absolute truth, and is not one?

SCIENCE has laws, if you can only be proven only part of the time or theoretically then it is called THEORY. If you can prove it EVERY TIME it's a PROVEN FACT.

RELIGION doesn't have these "laws" it says to believe because we say so, without using actual PROOF. I find it funny when people rather believe blind faith rather than scientific evidence.

Actually there is no absolute truth in science. A law is an observation of a relationship that appears to always hold (e.g. Newton's 2nd Law of Motion). It doesn't explain things it is just a statement that describes empirically verifiable relationships.

A theory is a logical system designed to explain observations and furnish new predictions regarding physical systems. A theory is successful when it corresponds closely to the results of actual measurements. A theory provides us with a way to think about our observations and provides a measure of understanding about the world. No theory is true, but many are useful and help us to think about things.

A fact is more of a term from formal logic. In science the closest thing to a fact that we can find is the quantitative outcome of a highly repeatable measurement. Science is practical, not absolute.

toupeiro
November 18th, 2009, 02:09 AM
I don't agree with your description of the Big Bang at all. The Big Bang is not just a marker in time, it describes the process of how the early Universe developed.



I think that's a pretty insulting way to make your argument. Grow up, please.

I'm not suggesting NASA have all the data about everything. But they have some pretty damn fine data about astronomy.
Through all of this I was merely playing devils advocate to counter the ridiculous notion that people talk like they know full and well what the future holds. I find it absolutely comical that the same gumption someone will put into discounting something is usually the same framework they have for their own overall rather fragile perception of things at times...

Regarding the kool-aid, I was attempting to joke around with you, saying that in good fun, and was not serious at all (Hence the emoticon). I apologize for any hurt feelings this has caused. Part of growing up that I learned quite some time ago is realizing when to be serious, and when not to be.. How about you? Maybe it would be as good for you to remember that as much as it would be for me to realize not everyone is going to get my sense of humor.

-T.

KiwiNZ
November 18th, 2009, 02:15 AM
Throughout time soothsayers and alike have been attempting to foresee the future. They will continue to do so now and in the future right up until the end of days.

What a pity they last one alive wont be there to say I told you so :p

toupeiro
November 18th, 2009, 02:17 AM
throughout time soothsayers and alike have been attempting to foresee the future. They will continue to do so now and in the future right up until the end of days.

What a pity they last one alive wont be there to say i told you so :p

+1

Dharmachakra
November 18th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Er... science doesn't say anything is an absolute truth. Science states that certain things are supported.

And Nostradamus has nothing to do with the Mayans... so I don't know why anyone would use him to support an argument about what the Mayans did or did not believe.

lisati
November 18th, 2009, 02:23 AM
I don't agree with your description of the Big Bang at all. The Big Bang is not just a marker in time, it describes the process of how the early Universe developed.


Were you there? :)

It's not always easy putting all the pieces of the puzzle together. Short of getting hold of Doctor Who's tardis or some such other aid to travelling in time, we're going to have to rely on what sometimes amounts to educated guesses.

toupeiro
November 18th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Er... science doesn't say anything is an absolute truth. Science states that certain things are supported.

And Nostradamus has nothing to do with the Mayans... so I don't know why anyone would use him to support an argument about what the Mayans did or did not believe.

He did not have anything to do with the mayan's directly, but some of his prophecies correlate with controversial points (more than one) in the Mayan calendar, hence the reference. I wasn't pointing out their belief systems, but their measure of time, events, and perceived accuracy.

johnb820
November 18th, 2009, 02:44 AM
My point is that science explains something like the origin of the universe, the big bang, and we are told to believe it as if that is really how the universe started. However, no living soul on this planet has observed or recorded the big bang since the first man. How can I believe in something that has never been observed? That is like someone telling me what the center of the earth is made of.

To contrast the big bang, all a creationist has to say is that at some point, before observation happened, the world just popped into existence and suddenly the big bang is shreds. Neither side can win the argument because the origin of the universe has never ever been observed.

samjh
November 18th, 2009, 02:46 AM
So which part is vague about 911, the part where he said two towers would burn to the ground, or the fact that he got it right down to the part of the decade it would happen in?

He actually didn't predict it at all:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/nostradamus.asp

Dharmachakra
November 18th, 2009, 02:50 AM
My point is that science explains something like the origin of the universe, the big bang, and we are told to believe it as if that is really how the universe started. However, no living soul on this planet has observed or recorded the big bang since the first man. How can I believe in something that has never been observed? That is like someone telling me what the center of the earth is made of.


...we can also be fairly sure about that as well. Eyes aren't all we have at our disposal.

Ric_NYC
November 18th, 2009, 02:55 AM
Honestly. I don't understand why people believe in that kind of thing.

xArv3nx
November 18th, 2009, 02:56 AM
You never know.

johnb820
November 18th, 2009, 02:57 AM
...we can also be fairly sure about that as well. Eyes aren't all we have at our disposal.

Can or should you trust something other than your own five senses?

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 03:01 AM
When it comes to the physical sciences, the question is can you trust your senses. And the answer, to an extent, is no.

Dharmachakra
November 18th, 2009, 03:05 AM
Can or should you trust something other than your own five senses?

Following the axiom that all things that occur in this universe are subject to the same physical "laws", then yes, I feel confident that our conclusion regarding the Earth's core is accurate.

3rdalbum
November 18th, 2009, 03:40 AM
The world is actually going to end on the 19th of January 2038, because that's when 32-bit Unix time ends.

...well, it's as dumb as saying that the world will end in 2012 because that's when the Mayan calendar ends!

(or, the world will end on Sunday, December 4, 292,277,026,596 AD, because that's when 64-bit Unix time ends)

MasterNetra
November 18th, 2009, 04:20 AM
Can or should you trust something other than your own five senses?

Or 6 or 7 depending if your one of them rare people with some extra gifts...though also I believe we have a very weak ability to sense electrical fields. After all what do you think is the source for those "someone is watching" type of sensing when you haven't detected them with any of your 5 senses? Its probably one of our weakest senses but meh.

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 04:27 AM
Or 6 or 7 depending if your one of them rare people with some extra gifts...

Oh and let's not forget the compass we have in our noses (http://anthropology.net/2006/11/21/the-tiny-magnetite-compass-in-the-human-nose/).

MasterNetra
November 18th, 2009, 04:32 AM
Oh and let's not forget the compass we have in our noses (http://anthropology.net/2006/11/21/the-tiny-magnetite-compass-in-the-human-nose/).

You really should stop shoving things up your nose. Its not healthy ya know! :p :D

You could also catch all kinds of viruses and diseases from doing that including the dreaded emo virus! :p

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 04:37 AM
You really should stop shoving things up your nose. Its not healthy ya know! :p :D

You could also catch all kinds of viruses and diseases from doing that including the dreaded emo virus! :p

But I like to tromp around the woods in the nude. Where else am I supposed to store my compass? On second thought, don't answer that.

MasterNetra
November 18th, 2009, 04:39 AM
But I like to tromp around the woods in the nude. Where else am I supposed to store my compass? On second thought, don't answer that.

But if you catch the emo virus you will be too depressed to do that! :p

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 04:48 AM
But if you catch the emo virus you will be too depressed to do that! :p

Fine, fine. I'll put my compass on a string and wear it around my neck. Or maybe I'll strap it to my wrist. But if anyone laughs at me for doing such a foolish thing, I'm blaming you.

MasterNetra
November 18th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Fine, fine. I'll put my compass on a string and wear it around my neck. Or maybe I'll strap it to my wrist. But if anyone laughs at me for doing such a foolish thing, I'm blaming you.

Even if I'm the one laughing at you? :p

Tipped OuT
November 18th, 2009, 04:54 AM
Well, now that NASA has chimed in we can all rest easy.

/sarcasm

I rather believe in an organization that has some credibility to know what they're talking about, then just silly theories that I heard some guy say on the Discovery channel.

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 05:07 AM
I rather believe in an organization that has some credibility to know what they're talking about, then just silly theories that I heard some guy say on the Discovery channel.

Although NASA wouldn't be my first choice of an astronomical authority, my sarcasm was primarily directed to the fact that the notion is taken seriously enough for NASA to comment on in the first place.

Tipped OuT
November 18th, 2009, 05:09 AM
Although NASA wouldn't be my first choice of an astronomical authority, my sarcasm was primarily directed to the fact that the notion is taken seriously enough for NASA to comment on in the first place.

I see.

MasterNetra
November 18th, 2009, 05:10 AM
Although NASA wouldn't be my first choice of an astronomical authority, my sarcasm was primarily directed to the fact that the notion is taken seriously enough for NASA to comment on in the first place.

Well the rumours are running rampant all over (the US at least anyway) and Hollywood not helping as usual.

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 05:16 AM
I admit, my comment was partially motivated by the fact that in another thread, Christian 'end-timers' were being blamed for holding up space exploration, not to mention the destruction of the environment. I'm not Christian, but I'm tired of Christian scapegoating. So hearing that NASA had responded to another form of doomsday lunacy irked me.

JBAlaska
November 18th, 2009, 05:41 AM
Personally I'm going to get my green ticket and then I wont care...anyone have a billion euro's I can borrow? I'll pay you back double in 2013 lol.

P.S. You know how many emo kids it takes to change a lightbulb?....none, they just sit in the dark and cry lol's

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 05:46 AM
Personally I'm going to get my green ticket and then I wont care...

What's a green ticket? Unless it has something to do with Dookie or Packers, Google let me down.

JBAlaska
November 18th, 2009, 05:55 AM
Sorry I just saw the movie last night (2012), and I guess I thought everyone had lol.

Don't want to do a spoiler, but the reference was from that movie.

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 06:03 AM
Sorry I just saw the movie last night (2012), and I guess I thought everyone had lol.

Don't want to do a spoiler, but the reference was from that movie.

You're not going to spoil anything for me. Ten seconds into the trailer (the wave crashing over a monastery) I said, "Please don't tell me this is another armageddon movie, and if it is please, please don't tell me it's 2012 related." Needless to say I was disappointed.

Khakilang
November 18th, 2009, 06:06 AM
Sure the world will end 1 day. But there is no solid proof as to when. Not all science, sooth sayer, fortune teller or any religion can predict the actual date and you know why? The lifespan of the world is in our hand just like our body. Keep it healthy and it live for another few billion years. So don't throw all your old PC to the dump site. Just give it to me.

hobo14
November 18th, 2009, 06:13 AM
Once apon a time, there was a man named Nostradamus. The man was pretty wise, and errily accurate.


This entire thread is well below being worth responding too, but I had to correct the Nostradamus claims:

The two verses that he actually wrote, that are the basis of the text most often used in the Nostradamus 911 chain letter emails are these:

Earthshaking fire from the centre of the earth will cause tremors around the New City. Two great rocks will war for a long time, then Arethusa will redden a new river.

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At forty-five degrees the sky will burn, Fire to approach the great new city: In an instant a great scattered flame will leap up, When one will want to demand proof of the Normans.

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Note he did not write them together, they are entirely independent of each other, one from century X, one from century VI.

Another verse that is also often used is the following, but it was NOT written by Nostradamus, it was written by a guy called Neil Marshall, just a few years ago:

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"

I repeat, this one was NOT written by Nostradamus, and it was just a sentence from Marshall to show how obscure language could mean almost anything you want it to.


Quite obviously Nostradamus predicted no such thing as 911, nor anything remotely like it, but chain emailers thought it would be much more interesting if he had, and the contents of these three verses have been variously chopped, changed, twisted and patched together to make all sorts of email worthy, hindsight "predictions".

alphaniner
November 18th, 2009, 06:13 AM
So don't throw all your old PC to the dump site. Just give it to me.

LOL, good attitude!

Exodist
November 18th, 2009, 06:20 AM
Well either way I have no doubt they are at least correct about the Mayan Calendar and the fact the Galactic core alignment will have no effect. Mainly because we are technically always aligned with the galactic core in a similar fashion to how we are technically always align with the sun. As for the Calendar, the mayans believed time went in circles (in-contrast to our normal believe that its straight) thus the long count won't ever truly be done, it will just keep looping.
+1

Well said..