serpentine5
November 17th, 2009, 02:10 AM
I followed this tut to do my installs.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8327632#post8327632
and as you can see in the thread, i posted my issues, but I am not getting much assistance by hijacking someone elses thread, so I figured I would copy my posts and start a new thread....
this way it was about my issues and not about everything else posted in that thread.
first post:
I did a google search on duel booting with Ultimate Edition and XP and this thread is what was on the top of the returns.
There are a couple issues I have with it. I see that it was written in 2007 and here it is 2009 almost 2010.... so i know your tut is outdated. I did not check the date of the tut when I started....
I have a copy of Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.3, and am running XP Pro.
I followed the tut and went to reinstall XP and told the formatter/partitioner to allocate 10gig of a 40 gig HHD to install XP on. Worked fine.
After XP installed totally, I rebooted to the LiveCD, could not find Gparted but I found "Partition Editor" under System>Administration> So I used it. It was a tad bit different than your tut described so I did what I thought was right...
I took the remaining space, and cut it into three equal pieces because you failed to say anything about the swap area that was shown in the graphic.
I did the first as:
File System ext3
Label UBHome
Create As: Primary Partition
Second:
File System ext3
Label UBRoot
Create as Primary Partition
Third:
File System ext3
Label SWAP
Create as Primary Partition
Then hit apply. Once it was finished, I hit the install from the desktop and went through the questions until it came to the partition step. I selected "Select Partitions Manually".
I found the HDD I made the partitions on, I selected the first one, and hit Edit partition. Here were a few steps that were not mentioned in your tut either....
First:
USE AS: Ext3 journaling file system
Format Partition: selected
Mount Point: /home
Second:
Use AS: Ext3 Journaling File System
Format Partition: Selected
Mount Point: /
then I hit next on the installer and it popped up telling me that I did not have a drive selected for SWAP.... This is the step you skipped in the tut, so i hit back and edited the third partition
Third:
Use As: SWAP AREA
Would not allow me to select format
Mount Point: unselected (since there was not a SWAP listed in the drop down menu.)
I then finished the install process and rebooted. It booted straight to XP, not to a boot prompt asking me which OS I wanted to boot to or anything.
I have rebooted several times, and everytime it goes straight to XP. I did put the LiveCD back in and booted to it, and it shows that Ubuntu was installed to the drive I partitioned and Mount Pointed as "/", not to the SWAP or the "/home" drives.
As I am sure you have realized by now, I am not a Linux user... I know my way around a ******* box, but the ins and outs of Linux/Ubuntu escape me.
Any input that can be provided to help me with where ever I screded up, i would be most thankful.
Second post in reply to Annigma's post of:
Hello serpentine. Welcome to the forums ):P
I can't help you really I'm afraid, but just wanted to suggest that you don't do anything else until someone advises you.
The reason I say this is that I believe you are not making the best use of your space. The swap partition only needs to be small (it's relative to the size of your RAM), so you're wasting a good few GB there. Also, the maximum number of Primary partitions you can have on a HDD is four, and I think you've used them all up unnecessarily.. Only your Windows 'demands' a Primary partition. Linux isn't so fussy :wink: (This will only matter if you want more partitions later. If you're sure you won't, then it doesn't matter.)
I'm sure you're researching whilst awaiting an answer. I am grateful for the help I got recently on this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321649), and you may find it helpful.
Good luck. Hope someone comes along soon to help.
My response:
Ok, I screwed up farther....
After reading several other posts and how to's.... I decided to try the super grub disk.
Downloaded and ran from inside ******* and rebooted. It came up to a prompt, I hit it, it listed several installs of Ubuntu and a *******s install. I selected the first linux, error 15 the second same thing and so on.... so i rebooted and tried it again. the first one allowed me to log into the linux install.... Cool...
thought I had the issue fixed. So while I was trying to import my ******* settings for firefox, and then my mail folders from my outlook backups... Ifound that I had to go back to ******* to transfer the outlook file to firefox since the linux install of firefox did not have mozilla mail.... So... I rebooted got the grub prompt to select what I wanted to boot to, and when I selected *******, I now get an error:
Starting up...
NTLDR is missing
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
Now I dont know what to do.....
I can still log into Linux... but not Windows
Then my follow up post:
ok, i am back to the beginning... I booted off the ******* install disc and went to the repair console... fixed the MBR.... rebooted and it gave me the very first
grub prompt asking if I wanted to go to ******* or the super grub disc. I chose to boot to ******* and it did... but now I have an exe trying to run at start up, it is asking me before anything else loads to allow unetbtin.exe to run.... no clue what it is.... google search implies it is the uninstaller for super grub disc.
I rebooted from windows, and got the first grub menu, found the linux install, can boot to it but cannot boot to *******, giving me the same error again....
thinking this is a super grub disc error....
Now what I am looking at doing at this moment is rebooting to the livecd, deleting the partitions except for the *******, setting the swap to a gig, and the rest cut in half.... so about 15gig for /home, 15 gig for / and 1 gig for swap.
What cha think? When I first booted into Ubuntu, it wanted to update, and i told it to do so, but half way through it said it did not have enough space to update everything, so it reset... 10 gig is not large enough to install then update everything.....
Is there an up to date tut on this site that I have overlooked that tells how to set everything up in a way that a noob with no terminal experience can use and get a system going with a functioning dual boot?
Thanks all
and as you can see in the thread, i posted my issues, but I am not getting much assistance by hijacking someone elses thread, so I figured I would copy my posts and start a new thread....
this way it was about my issues and not about everything else posted in that thread.
first post:
I did a google search on duel booting with Ultimate Edition and XP and this thread is what was on the top of the returns.
There are a couple issues I have with it. I see that it was written in 2007 and here it is 2009 almost 2010.... so i know your tut is outdated. I did not check the date of the tut when I started....
I have a copy of Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 2.3, and am running XP Pro.
I followed the tut and went to reinstall XP and told the formatter/partitioner to allocate 10gig of a 40 gig HHD to install XP on. Worked fine.
After XP installed totally, I rebooted to the LiveCD, could not find Gparted but I found "Partition Editor" under System>Administration> So I used it. It was a tad bit different than your tut described so I did what I thought was right...
I took the remaining space, and cut it into three equal pieces because you failed to say anything about the swap area that was shown in the graphic.
I did the first as:
File System ext3
Label UBHome
Create As: Primary Partition
Second:
File System ext3
Label UBRoot
Create as Primary Partition
Third:
File System ext3
Label SWAP
Create as Primary Partition
Then hit apply. Once it was finished, I hit the install from the desktop and went through the questions until it came to the partition step. I selected "Select Partitions Manually".
I found the HDD I made the partitions on, I selected the first one, and hit Edit partition. Here were a few steps that were not mentioned in your tut either....
First:
USE AS: Ext3 journaling file system
Format Partition: selected
Mount Point: /home
Second:
Use AS: Ext3 Journaling File System
Format Partition: Selected
Mount Point: /
then I hit next on the installer and it popped up telling me that I did not have a drive selected for SWAP.... This is the step you skipped in the tut, so i hit back and edited the third partition
Third:
Use As: SWAP AREA
Would not allow me to select format
Mount Point: unselected (since there was not a SWAP listed in the drop down menu.)
I then finished the install process and rebooted. It booted straight to XP, not to a boot prompt asking me which OS I wanted to boot to or anything.
I have rebooted several times, and everytime it goes straight to XP. I did put the LiveCD back in and booted to it, and it shows that Ubuntu was installed to the drive I partitioned and Mount Pointed as "/", not to the SWAP or the "/home" drives.
As I am sure you have realized by now, I am not a Linux user... I know my way around a ******* box, but the ins and outs of Linux/Ubuntu escape me.
Any input that can be provided to help me with where ever I screded up, i would be most thankful.
Second post in reply to Annigma's post of:
Hello serpentine. Welcome to the forums ):P
I can't help you really I'm afraid, but just wanted to suggest that you don't do anything else until someone advises you.
The reason I say this is that I believe you are not making the best use of your space. The swap partition only needs to be small (it's relative to the size of your RAM), so you're wasting a good few GB there. Also, the maximum number of Primary partitions you can have on a HDD is four, and I think you've used them all up unnecessarily.. Only your Windows 'demands' a Primary partition. Linux isn't so fussy :wink: (This will only matter if you want more partitions later. If you're sure you won't, then it doesn't matter.)
I'm sure you're researching whilst awaiting an answer. I am grateful for the help I got recently on this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321649), and you may find it helpful.
Good luck. Hope someone comes along soon to help.
My response:
Ok, I screwed up farther....
After reading several other posts and how to's.... I decided to try the super grub disk.
Downloaded and ran from inside ******* and rebooted. It came up to a prompt, I hit it, it listed several installs of Ubuntu and a *******s install. I selected the first linux, error 15 the second same thing and so on.... so i rebooted and tried it again. the first one allowed me to log into the linux install.... Cool...
thought I had the issue fixed. So while I was trying to import my ******* settings for firefox, and then my mail folders from my outlook backups... Ifound that I had to go back to ******* to transfer the outlook file to firefox since the linux install of firefox did not have mozilla mail.... So... I rebooted got the grub prompt to select what I wanted to boot to, and when I selected *******, I now get an error:
Starting up...
NTLDR is missing
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart
Now I dont know what to do.....
I can still log into Linux... but not Windows
Then my follow up post:
ok, i am back to the beginning... I booted off the ******* install disc and went to the repair console... fixed the MBR.... rebooted and it gave me the very first
grub prompt asking if I wanted to go to ******* or the super grub disc. I chose to boot to ******* and it did... but now I have an exe trying to run at start up, it is asking me before anything else loads to allow unetbtin.exe to run.... no clue what it is.... google search implies it is the uninstaller for super grub disc.
I rebooted from windows, and got the first grub menu, found the linux install, can boot to it but cannot boot to *******, giving me the same error again....
thinking this is a super grub disc error....
Now what I am looking at doing at this moment is rebooting to the livecd, deleting the partitions except for the *******, setting the swap to a gig, and the rest cut in half.... so about 15gig for /home, 15 gig for / and 1 gig for swap.
What cha think? When I first booted into Ubuntu, it wanted to update, and i told it to do so, but half way through it said it did not have enough space to update everything, so it reset... 10 gig is not large enough to install then update everything.....
Is there an up to date tut on this site that I have overlooked that tells how to set everything up in a way that a noob with no terminal experience can use and get a system going with a functioning dual boot?
Thanks all