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icett
November 14th, 2009, 09:52 PM
I wonder how piracy would work when cloud computing would become widespread? Games and softwares developers say everywhere that cloud computing would curb piracy. But one thing I am sure of is that there would always remain illegal ways for people who wish to pirate; who wish to illegally use the games and softwares for free. A crime can never be eliminated completely. But what I can't imagine is how people would pirate or illegally use the stuff in the cloud computing era. Would they be able to download the stuff in their pcs and use it offline? Cant understand! Can you imagine how all that would work?:popcorn:

earthpigg
November 14th, 2009, 10:02 PM
consider Steam as a early example of Cloud Computing, except pretend crucial components of the video game in question where not physically stored on the computer. Not a large component that would take a long time to download each time... something small, but crucial.

Dr. C
November 14th, 2009, 10:06 PM
I wonder how piracy would work when cloud computing would become widespread? Games and softwares developers say everywhere that cloud computing would curb piracy. But one thing I am sure of is that there would always remain illegal ways for people who wish to pirate; who wish to illegally use the games and softwares for free. A crime can never be eliminated completely. But what I can't imagine is how people would pirate or illegally use the stuff in the cloud computing era. Would they be able to download the stuff in their pcs and use it offline? Cant understand! Can you imagine how all that would work?:popcorn:

It makes piracy to all intensive purposes moot. You sell the access to the cloud services and then license the client connection software under a FLOSS license or a propriety license that allows free distribution of the binaries.

tjwoosta
November 14th, 2009, 10:11 PM
I wonder how piracy would work when cloud computing would become widespread? Games and softwares developers say everywhere that cloud computing would curb piracy. But one thing I am sure of is that there would always remain illegal ways for people who wish to pirate; who wish to illegally use the games and softwares for free. A crime can never be eliminated completely. But what I can't imagine is how people would pirate or illegally use the stuff in the cloud computing era. Would they be able to download the stuff in their pcs and use it offline? Cant understand! Can you imagine how all that would work?

So long as there are hackers there will be piracy. And there is nothing that can stop hackers. Where there is a will there is a way. If it came down to it there would be entire subnets and/or darknets devoted to this type of thing.

ZankerH
November 14th, 2009, 10:27 PM
So long as there are hackers there will be piracy. And there is nothing that can stop hackers. Where there is a will there is a way. If it came down to it there would be entire subnets and/or darknets devoted to this type of thing.

And so long as there are people who take their Freedom seriously, "cloud computing" will not prevail.

The Funkbomb
November 14th, 2009, 10:29 PM
It makes piracy to all intensive purposes moot. You sell the access to the cloud services and then license the client connection software under a FLOSS license or a propriety license that allows free distribution of the binaries.

*intents and purposes*.

It's kind of a pet peeve of mine.

To get back on topic, who knows. One of my buddies linked me to how child pornography servers work in Germany and while it was interesting from a technical standpoint, it was also infuriating to know not much can be done to stop them.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

ZankerH
November 14th, 2009, 10:37 PM
*intents and purposes*.

It's kind of a pet peeve of mine.

To get back on topic, who knows. One of my buddies linked me to how child pornography servers work in Germany and while it was interesting from a technical standpoint, it was also infuriating to know not much can be done to stop them.

Where there's a will, there's a way.

Oh come on, "child pornography", "terrorism" and "copyright infringment" (aka piracy, which is a misnomer and a deliberate misleading of the public by association with a real crime) are just political buzzwords used to lock down the internet and prevent access to Free alternatives to the proprietary crap They'd have shoved down our throats.

tjwoosta
November 14th, 2009, 11:06 PM
And so long as there are people who take their Freedom seriously, "cloud computing" will not prevail.

I agree :)

The Funkbomb
November 14th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Oh come on, "child pornography", "terrorism" and "copyright infringment" (aka piracy, which is a misnomer and a deliberate misleading of the public by association with a real crime) are just political buzzwords used to lock down the internet and prevent access to Free alternatives to the proprietary crap They'd have shoved down our throats.

I assure you, child pornography is not a buzzword. Sadly, it's a very real exploitation of people who aren't old enough to fend for themselves, often using the threat of violence or the addiction to drugs.

My whole point was that by chasing after pirates/copyright infringers, all they're going to do is force them underground like they did with the CP people.

pwnst*r
November 14th, 2009, 11:39 PM
And so long as there are people who take their Freedom seriously, "cloud computing" will not prevail.

lol

Islington
November 14th, 2009, 11:56 PM
lol

I think he meant to say, cloud computing will prevail, until the first major case, where the servers lose data/ someone steals data from servers.

xir_
November 15th, 2009, 12:03 AM
Oh come on, "child pornography", "terrorism" and "copyright infringment" (aka piracy, which is a misnomer and a deliberate misleading of the public by association with a real crime) are just political buzzwords used to lock down the internet and prevent access to Free alternatives to the proprietary crap They'd have shoved down our throats.

i agree, ruling by fear seems to work though.

hobo14
November 15th, 2009, 04:58 AM
I really object to this use of the word "piracy". In regards to copying data, "pirate" originally meant someone who made large numbers of copies for profit, and that's how it should stay AFAIC. It would be nice if you didn't spread the recording industry's meaning of the word.

I guess the OP is referring to streaming games? Otherwise, cloud computing will make no difference to illegal copying whatsoever.

gletob
November 15th, 2009, 05:25 AM
lol


I think he meant to say, cloud computing will prevail, until the first major case, where the servers lose data/ someone steals data from servers.

I think what he ment was not freedom, but privacy.

jdrodrig
November 15th, 2009, 06:58 AM
As in linux each process gets assigned a PID, say you buy cpu time in a cloud, hackers will try to disguise their processes using your process PID number....

pwnst*r
November 15th, 2009, 07:07 AM
I think he meant to say, cloud computing will prevail, until the first major case, where the servers lose data/ someone steals data from servers.

the thing is that almost everyone here is talking about their personal data. i'm thinking from a corporations point of view. i won't go completely cloud with my personal info, but again, for corporations it's a great idea and it's coming whether you like it or not.

BenAshton24
November 15th, 2009, 07:21 AM
I don't like the idea of cloud computing, other than for backing up data, It's sort of like someone coming to your house and taking your computer and replacing it with an dead lock sealed screen and an apple mouse... *shudder*

However there would be some good things that would come of it like catching paedophiles and making things harder for spammers.

I think piracy will always be rife across the internet, no matter how secure they get things there will always be that margin of user error where the hacker gets in.

<offtopic> *Anyone get the "Doctor Who" reference? wooo "Waters of Mars" tomorrow :D* </offtopic>

virajmehta
August 18th, 2010, 07:22 AM
Can cloud computing curb piracy?
While the cloud model does offer some hope for curbing piracy, not every vendor is optimistic about the eventual impact

Read this interesting article on how cloud computing can help in curbing piracy at http://bit.ly/csy8pK (http://bit.ly/csy8pK)


"The affordability of the pay-peruse model will significantly reduce upfront investments and act as a major disincentive to piracy”
- Vikas Arora, Group Director, Cloud Services, Microsoft India


“SaaS is not an anti-piracy solution by any stretch of imagination”
- Bharat Goenka, Co-founder & Managing Director, Tally Solutions


“While the cloud model can certainly reduce piracy levels, it is important to note that it is not a silver bullet for tackling software piracy”
- Naresh Gupta, MD, Adobe’s India Research and Development center


Read the full article at: http://bit.ly/csy8pK (http://bit.ly/csy8pK)


Cheers!
Viraj

kevin11951
August 18th, 2010, 07:27 AM
Isn't LTSP internal business/school cloud computing?

Elfy
August 18th, 2010, 07:30 AM
closed - necromancy