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hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 04:52 PM
... or Folding@home!

Just because if we all do it (this is for the people that haven't already! heh) then it will make a difference!

It's distributed computing, so it puts your unused CPU time to use on the world's problems or endeavours!

BOINC you can install through the repos:


sudo apt-get install boinc

and Folding@home I think you need to use the site: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download

But yeah, they're cool and between them allow you to contribute to mostly anything you like!


Peace!

Hoppi ^_^

TomTwice
November 11th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Yeah, no thanks

Maheriano
November 11th, 2009, 04:54 PM
I know exactly what you're talking about but for someone that doesn't, your vague description and lack of any explanation are not going to gain you any followers. In fact it's so vague that it looks like SPAM.

Странник
November 11th, 2009, 05:00 PM
I did BOINC for 3 years when I had a desktop computer, but now if I do it on my laptop it gets seriously hot, so I cannot use it

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 05:31 PM
I know exactly what you're talking about but for someone that doesn't, your vague description and lack of any explanation are not going to gain you any followers. In fact it's so vague that it looks like SPAM.

Except for the fact that I'm here every 5 minutes and I've started like 40 threads or something lol


EDIT -- Besides I do marketing sometimes and I would disguise it better than that! heh :)

Tibuda
November 11th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Except for the fact that I'm here every 5 minutes and I've started like 40 threads or something lol

Yeah, it looks like spam.

The Funkbomb
November 11th, 2009, 05:35 PM
I looked into this and I'm not convinced it's safe or something I want to do.

ZankerH
November 11th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Yeah, I don't participate in distributed computing projects, just like I don't give out money to random people in the street. Running your CPUs on 100% load 24/7 (or any amount of time) costs money, at least it does to those of us who pay our own electricity bill. Also, the inherent built-in call home function could easily be abused, and from what I can tell there's no way to tell whether my computer is folding proteins, sending out child porn, or just running an infinite loop and sending out packets with random data every now and then.

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 05:40 PM
I looked into this and I'm not convinced it's safe or something I want to do.

why's that? Thing is, on mine it just kinda sits in the background, I think it's linked up to... some projects for diseases and sometimes some to do with physics and space exploration! It's quite cool, also means I don't need to feel as bad about forgetting to turn my PC off sometimes! xD


Yeah, I don't participate in distributed computing projects, just like I don't give out money to random people in the street. Running your CPUs on 100% load 24/7 (or any amount of time) costs money, at least it does to those of us who pay our own electricity bill. Also, the inherent built-in call home function could easily be abused, and from what I can tell there's no way to tell whether my computer is folding proteins, sending out child porn, or just running an infinite loop and sending out packets with random data every now and then.

well, that's kinda why you need to trust the projects you are linked up to... right?

And actually I didn't think of the electricity, is it really that much more than just have the PC on normally?

The Funkbomb
November 11th, 2009, 05:42 PM
Oh, it's definitely a cool idea and I'm sure it is extremely useful to people in those fields. I just don't feel comfortable with it.

ZankerH
November 11th, 2009, 05:59 PM
why's that? Thing is, on mine it just kinda sits in the background, I think it's linked up to... some projects for diseases and sometimes some to do with physics and space exploration! It's quite cool, also means I don't need to feel as bad about forgetting to turn my PC off sometimes! xD



well, that's kinda why you need to trust the projects you are linked up to... right?

And actually I didn't think of the electricity, is it really that much more than just have the PC on normally?

I did an experiment regarding the electricity costs sometime in 2007. With 8 computers running folding@home 24/7, suffice it to say the computer-related costs nearly doubled compared to regular usage.

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 06:07 PM
I did an experiment regarding the electricity costs sometime in 2007. With 8 computers running folding@home 24/7, suffice it to say the computer-related costs nearly doubled compared to regular usage.

hmm that's quite interesting, but I still don't think my PC saps that much power anyway... I dunno what's an interesting point though and potentially one problem with distributed computing...

JDShu
November 11th, 2009, 06:29 PM
I did an experiment regarding the electricity costs sometime in 2007. With 8 computers running folding@home 24/7, suffice it to say the computer-related costs nearly doubled compared to regular usage.

You ran 8 computers 24/7 and your computing related costs only doubled? I would say thats testament to how little it costs to run folding at home.

ZankerH
November 11th, 2009, 06:33 PM
You ran 8 computers 24/7 and your computing related costs only doubled? I would say thats testament to how little it costs to run folding at home.

I normally run 8 computers 24/7. The only difference was running f@h on them.

blueshiftoverwatch
November 11th, 2009, 06:47 PM
How much would running your CPU at 100% load 24/7 shorten the length of the processor, assuming it and your case were properly cooled? Or is it negligable consitering that your probably going to be getting a new computer every 5 or so years?

mr-woof
November 11th, 2009, 07:16 PM
I've ran Boinc for Seti@Home for 5-6 years now, quite a few of those years with the older seti clients. Pc's have been fine, can't beat 100% cpu burn :)

praveesh
November 11th, 2009, 07:18 PM
What exactly are you talking about? . What is foldingat home? From your post and your link, I couldn't understand.

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 07:22 PM
I normally run 8 computers 24/7. The only difference was running f@h on them.

you run EIGHT machines and you're worried about my power bill? lol

I have one micro-ATX machine! heh :)

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 07:23 PM
What exactly are you talking about? . What is foldingat home? From your post and your link, I couldn't understand.

ah sorry man :) They're distributed computing, so what they do is run on any number of people's machines and put their idle CPU (or sometimes GPU time) to use on benevolent projects (or scientific or whatever) around the globe! It's a good way of doing supercomputer scale and complexity operations WITHOUT a supercomputer! :)

kio_http
November 11th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Cpu usage all too fine, but what about INTERNET bandwidth?

Mr. Picklesworth
November 11th, 2009, 07:40 PM
I would love to use BOINC, but I hate that it installs a service which runs in the background, at all times, on my computer. If I could disable that service (such that ps -A | grep boinc gives me NOTHING) so that it only runs under my session when I have the BOINC GUI thing open, I would happily use it.

As is, even if it isn't meant to be doing anything (and probably isn't) that service is sitting there in memory. It has to have been started at some point (likely during the initial startup), so it is wasting valuable resources regardless and creating clutter.

praveesh
November 11th, 2009, 07:41 PM
ah sorry man :) They're distributed computing, so what they do is run on any number of people's machines and put their idle CPU (or sometimes GPU time) to use on benevolent projects (or scientific or whatever) around the globe! It's a good way of doing supercomputer scale and complexity operations WITHOUT a supercomputer! :)

Thanks for the info. Iam not benefited , right ?. And how can I trust them ?

hoppipolla
November 11th, 2009, 09:12 PM
I would love to use BOINC, but I hate that it installs a service which runs in the background, at all times, on my computer. If I could disable that service (such that ps -A | grep boinc gives me NOTHING) so that it only runs under my session when I have the BOINC GUI thing open, I would happily use it.

As is, even if it isn't meant to be doing anything (and probably isn't) that service is sitting there in memory. It has to have been started at some point, so it is wasting valuable resources regardless and creating clutter.

I dunno you can probably fix it up to run like that somehow... I mean I am aware I can always kill the process if I feel the need to - there must be some way to activate and deactivate it as you like. You can probably just kill it from within it's control panel, that's the kind of way I used to operate it on Windows.


Thanks for the info. Iam not benefited , right ?. And how can I trust them ?

That decision is only up to you :)