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337
November 8th, 2009, 12:22 AM
Hello There Everyone,

First of all, I am just now entering the GNU/Linux world. My first question...

I want to burn Ubuntu 9.10 with the Roxio sortware that I have but the download indicates that the ISO file is 690M in siz and Roxio indicates that the new CD has only 660M of space.

Am I missing something?

I'm sure many here have burnt CDs and that the 9.10 ISO file is designed to be burnt to a single CD. So how do I get a 690M file onto a 660M CD??

Thanks EVERYONE.

efflandt
November 8th, 2009, 05:40 AM
I thought CD's are about 700 MB. You need to burn it as an image, not add it as a file. Check under the data menu in Roxio, but some versions do not have burning an image unless you buy a version.

There are other free ways to burn CD images in Windows if you do not have an image burner program, but I forget exactly what they are. I know I installed one on my work PC that can burn an image my just right clicking on the iso file.

skyiscrying
November 8th, 2009, 06:53 AM
The ISO from Ubuntu's main page is 690mb or there abouts. The burned installation disk properties say 202 items totalling 689.3 MB. I used a DVD.

337
November 8th, 2009, 05:51 PM
Searching around, I found a note to use an "80 minute, 700MB" CD.

Apparently, CDs come in different capacities and my TDKs aren't big enough.

Thanks.

cascade9
November 8th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Removable Storage Native Capacity: 650 MB

http://www.amazon.com/TDK-CD-RW74FXCB25-25-pack-CD-RW-Media/dp/B000067S47


What are the capacities of your CDs, in minutes and MBs?

The capacity of our CDs are as follows: CD-R/RW74 are 74 Minutes and 650 MB CD-R/RW80 are 80 Minutes and 700 MB.



http://tdkcanada.ca/tdk/en/faq/

I would guess that your CDs are CD-R or CD-RW74s.

Almost all CD-Rs are 700MB, but you will see the odd 800MB version. IIRC, there used to be a lot more 650/660MB CDs around. but they are uncommon, at best, these days.

inearlygaveup
November 8th, 2009, 06:29 PM
Don't try to use a RW Disk, it won't hold the same MB's as a single use CD

cascade9
November 9th, 2009, 10:41 AM
Umm, no. CD-R and CD-RW hold the same amount of data (for any given size, of course a 650MB RW will hold less data than a 800MB CD-R)

phillw
November 9th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Hello There Everyone,

First of all, I am just now entering the GNU/Linux world. My first question...

I want to burn Ubuntu 9.10 with the Roxio sortware that I have but the download indicates that the ISO file is 690M in siz and Roxio indicates that the new CD has only 660M of space.

Am I missing something?

I'm sure many here have burnt CDs and that the 9.10 ISO file is designed to be burnt to a single CD. So how do I get a 690M file onto a 660M CD??

Thanks EVERYONE.


Over here, they have some good instructions on getting things done -->> http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_x p_stepbystep.htm?viewall=1

You can, of course, use a usb memory stick, provided your BIOS supports USB booting & you turn it on. USB stuff hides over here --->> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

DO check the file integrity (a little error can really cause nightmares). That one is over here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM

Phill.

inearlygaveup
November 10th, 2009, 12:47 AM
Umm, no. CD-R and CD-RW hold the same amount of data (for any given size, of course a 650MB RW will hold less data than a 800MB CD-R)

Careful with sizes an example - CD-R's
Brand Type------------------Total Capacity - - Total Time
Philips CD-R80-----------------702.8----------------79:59
Rimax CD-R80 Premium-----703.1----------------79:59

example - CD-RW's
Philips CD-RW74 (2)-----------654.9----------------74:31
TDK CD-RW74-------------------654.7----------------74:30

Typically a CD-RW disc is able to store roughly 30 MB less than its conventional CD-R

Chromatica
November 10th, 2009, 12:56 AM
Hello There Everyone,

First of all, I am just now entering the GNU/Linux world. My first question...

I want to burn Ubuntu 9.10 with the Roxio sortware that I have but the download indicates that the ISO file is 690M in siz and Roxio indicates that the new CD has only 660M of space.

Am I missing something?

I'm sure many here have burnt CDs and that the 9.10 ISO file is designed to be burnt to a single CD. So how do I get a 690M file onto a 660M CD??

Thanks EVERYONE.

I'm sort of confused on the responses to this thread. Am I reading the same OP as everyone else? He didn't ask for a comparison between them or anything like that. It's a simple question with a simple answer. You don't. You can't have 690 MB in raw (non-compressed) form on a 660 MB CD. However, a 660 MB CD is quite odd as the standard is usually 700 MB, making 690 a worthy use for a single-use CD. Also, I'm thinking that OP understands the concept of burning in the fact that he used the word burnt and mentioned Roxio, a program for burning CDs. Anyway, the only possible fix would be to buy some 700 MB disks, but they're not exactly expensive so it shouldn't be too hard. Although, as a work-around if you've got a 1 GB or greater flash drive, you could set up a Live USB which is a bit harder than a Live CD but still relatively easy and im sure there are some guides around.

inearlygaveup
November 10th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Hello There Everyone,

First of all, I am just now entering the GNU/Linux world. My first question...

I want to burn Ubuntu 9.10 with the Roxio sortware that I have but the download indicates that the ISO file is 690M in siz and Roxio indicates that the new CD has only 660M of space.

Am I missing something?

I'm sure many here have burnt CDs and that the 9.10 ISO file is designed to be burnt to a single CD. So how do I get a 690M file onto a 660M CD??

Thanks EVERYONE.

Just to let you know that I have burnt Ubuntu 9.10 successfully on a standard Maxell CD-R 700MB

Chromatica
November 10th, 2009, 01:17 AM
Just to let you know that I have burnt Ubuntu 9.10 successfully on a standard Maxell CD-R 700MB
I've burnt it perfectly on a regular TDK CD-R 700MB.

cascade9
November 10th, 2009, 02:45 PM
Careful with sizes an example - CD-R's
Brand Type------------------Total Capacity - - Total Time
Philips CD-R80-----------------702.8----------------79:59
Rimax CD-R80 Premium-----703.1----------------79:59

example - CD-RW's
Philips CD-RW74 (2)-----------654.9----------------74:31
TDK CD-RW74-------------------654.7----------------74:30

Typically a CD-RW disc is able to store roughly 30 MB less than its conventional CD-R

Umm, yeah, if you compare 74s (650MB rated) and 80s, (700MB rated) of course the 74s hold less data. There are CD-RW 80s around. Those figures are fine, but compare apples and apples, not apples and oranges.