Mandriva 2010.0 is out.

[ssri]

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010_Notes

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_What%27s_New

http://www.dailymotion.com/mandriva

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb0tso_mandriva-control-center-under-mandr_tech

As a KDE fan, I must say that this looks like a very polished implementation of my favorite DE, especially with respect to Kubuntu.

[e-Gee]

I tried Mandriva 2010 and it doesn't have any problems like Ubuntu 9.10 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314031) has on my hardware very good distro but I don't like RPM

[BigSilly]

Tried to install this as I'm a big fan of Mandy, but sadly the bootloader is not picking up my Ubuntu Karmic install, so I can't complete the installation. :( Sickener.

Can anyone help?

[armageddon08]

Where do I download it ?

[Screwdriver0815]

Where do I download it ?

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Home

just scroll down a bit, there are three download buttons.


As a KDE fan, I must say that this looks like a very polished implementation of my favorite DE, especially with respect to Kubuntu.

as a KDE fan I must say that I don't like the default look of Mandriva. It is not different to 2009.1 and I did not like that as I tested it. There is also some strange mixture between Gnome, KDE and Mandriva-own icons.

polished implementation... the only really nice thing about Mandriva is the control center. But for example the package manager sucks like a vacuumcleaner. And their repositories is just a mess.
In these terms Kubuntu is superior.

[the fix it man]

Started Linux on Mandrake many years ago,

I admire it a lot and no complaints with RPM standard.

;)

[CbrPad]

Tried to install this as I'm a big fan of Mandy, but sadly the bootloader is not picking up my Ubuntu Karmic install, so I can't complete the installation. :( Sickener.

Can anyone help?

Have a look at this thread...

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=118578


I've been running it since last Thursday (cooker), my first time running anything other than Ubuntu as my main o/s for five years, and it's running as sweet as a peach.
I decided to try KDE as well, I could never stand it previously, but the latest is very nice indeed. Just need to get used to urpmi now.

[armageddon08]

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Home

just scroll down a bit, there are three download buttons.



as a KDE fan I must say that I don't like the default look of Mandriva. It is not different to 2009.1 and I did not like that as I tested it. There is also some strange mixture between Gnome, KDE and Mandriva-own icons.

polished implementation... the only really nice thing about Mandriva is the control center. But for example the package manager sucks like a vacuumcleaner. And their repositories is just a mess.
In these terms Kubuntu is superior.

But that download is for 2009.1

[EDIT]: NVM, got it. :)

[~sHyLoCk~]

Mandriva RCs were a nightmare for me, let's see how this goes. i'll upgrade from cooker instead of fresh download.

[liquidbee]

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[~sHyLoCk~]

The latest release is Mandriva Linux 2010 Alpha 1 (http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Alpha_1) - stop spreading rumors .. Mandriva 2010 ( final ) haven't been released yet.

Alpha 1 ?? Man you are back dated. I just told you I have been using the RCs [since last month]. Check this (http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Development#Development_planning:_2010_plan ning_and_delivery) out.
Also this (http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=119261) <--most important. :P

[liquidbee]

Alpha 1 ?? Man you are back dated. I just told you I have been using the RCs [since last month]. Check this (http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.0_Development#Development_planning:_2010_plan ning_and_delivery) out.

Holly cow! Yesterday I spent 2 hours on digging through Mandriva website and forum - all I could find was Alpha and the fact that 2010 haven't been released yet. Shame on me.
Thanks for the link - it explained a lot ( I've never used or even seen Mandriva in action :o ).


Official public release 03/11/2009

Where can I get it ?

[armageddon08]

http://torrent.mandriva.com/

[gn2]

Can anyone help?

Possibly, this might do the trick (http://gag.sourceforge.net/).

Here's a how-to for it (http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p12.html).

[mikewhatever]

Wasn't there supposed to be a Moblin addition?

[BigSilly]

Have a look at this thread...

http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=118578


I've been running it since last Thursday (cooker), my first time running anything other than Ubuntu as my main o/s for five years, and it's running as sweet as a peach.
I decided to try KDE as well, I could never stand it previously, but the latest is very nice indeed. Just need to get used to urpmi now.

Ah, I see. Many thanks. Looks like I'm back to manually updating menu.lst whenever it changes. At least I know where I am now! Thanks again for the response. :)

Really enjoying it thus far. Really polished and complete. Watch out Canonical...

[emigrant]

@ e-Gee (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=840693), may i know the reason why you don't like rpm?

[e-Gee]

@ e-Gee (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=840693), may i know the reason why you don't like rpm?
I never used RPM distros before only Debian based and I'm more familiar with debs it's nothing wrong with RPM it is me

[ssri]

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Home
polished implementation... the only really nice thing about Mandriva is the control center. But for example the package manager sucks like a vacuumcleaner. And their repositories is just a mess.
In these terms Kubuntu is superior.

I hope you didn't inadvertently extol the virtues of Kubuntu's default package manager, kpackagekit, which is a POS. Then again, I usually forgo any gui-based package managers and manage my packages using apt-get and/or aptitude. From my experience, I feel more at home with managing debs than rpms.

[meho_r]

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Home

polished implementation... the only really nice thing about Mandriva is the control center. But for example the package manager sucks like a vacuumcleaner. And their repositories is just a mess.
In these terms Kubuntu is superior.

The "only" really nice thing?! Let's do just a little test: Click on the OpenOffice.org Writer in Mandriva and count. Write down time. Go to (K)ubuntu and do the same. Compare. Convinced? And it is not only OpenOffice.org, it applies to every app. Mandriva is simply lightning fast, much faster than (K)ubuntu. (For the record, first start of OOo Writer after login on my machine took ~4 sec on Mandriva 2009.1, 4 sec on 2010.0 and ~15 sec on Jaunty, ~10 sec on Karmic).

And as for KDE, I don't think there is a better implementation of KDE out there than in Mandriva. Great release.

[sertse]

The confusion in this thread is evidence of the main drawback to Mandriva. The company really needs to get organise its info and have some proper visibility.

Technically the distro is great. The company have some concerns however...

[wxnker]

Tried to install this as I'm a big fan of Mandy, but sadly the bootloader is not picking up my Ubuntu Karmic install, so I can't complete the installation. :( Sickener.

Can anyone help?
I installed Mandriva 2010 RC1 after Ubuntu Karmic and it picked up the Ubuntu Karmic (alpha) entry in grub automatically. If it doesn't for you, then try "configure your computer/boot/setup boot system in Mandriva. Mandriva normally has an easy to use GUI for tasks like that.

What do you mean you can't complete the install? If it doesn't pick up the Ubuntu grub entry then there are ways to fix this. If the gui approach mentioned above doesn't do the trick then this entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst might help:

Example with Ubuntu on sda3:


title Ubuntu karmic
root (hd0,2)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

[~sHyLoCk~]

I wish there was a CD version of x86_64 :/ Downloading the Free DVD

[wxnker]

I wish there was a CD version of x86_64 :/ Downloading the Free DVD
Yes, sadly there is no 64 bit version of ONE and AFAIK there are no plans to change this. 64 bit Users will have to use the "FOSS only" DVD version "FREE" (and install proprietary stuff post-install) or use "Powerpack".

It's well worth it though. Mandriva 2010.0 is sweet. The best Mandriva .0 release yet, imo.

[kixome]

Tried to install this as I'm a big fan of Mandy, but sadly the bootloader is not picking up my Ubuntu Karmic install, so I can't complete the installation. :( Sickener.

Can anyone help?

edit your own /etc/fstab?

[ibutho]

http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Home

just scroll down a bit, there are three download buttons.



as a KDE fan I must say that I don't like the default look of Mandriva. It is not different to 2009.1 and I did not like that as I tested it. There is also some strange mixture between Gnome, KDE and Mandriva-own icons.

polished implementation... the only really nice thing about Mandriva is the control center. But for example the package manager sucks like a vacuumcleaner. And their repositories is just a mess.
In these terms Kubuntu is superior.

The seem pretty straight forward to me. Main for the stuff built by Mandriva, Contrib for community stuff, Backports for new software thats been ported to after a release and PLF for proprietary stuff. Whats a mess there?

[earthpigg]

ships with WINE? ugh, gross.

[Screwdriver0815]

The "only" really nice thing?! Let's do just a little test: Click on the OpenOffice.org Writer in Mandriva and count. Write down time. Go to (K)ubuntu and do the same. Compare. Convinced? And it is not only OpenOffice.org, it applies to every app. Mandriva is simply lightning fast, much faster than (K)ubuntu. (For the record, first start of OOo Writer after login on my machine took ~4 sec on Mandriva 2009.1, 4 sec on 2010.0 and ~15 sec on Jaunty, ~10 sec on Karmic).

And as for KDE, I don't think there is a better implementation of KDE out there than in Mandriva. Great release.

speed? its exactly as fast as Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Even the boottime: Mandriva is slightly slower. But this is not the issue. The issue is usability and the impression it makes to the user. To me it made a chaotic impression.
Of course there are other nice things, like the networkmanager and so on, but my overall impression was not sooo great.

KDE implementation... the Mandriva-specific icons are ugly in my eyes. They don't fit to the overall KDE style. And I had the impression that there is too much Gnome stuff mixed into KDE. So for me the KDE implementation is far from being the best. If a distro mixes Gnome stuff into their KDE, then the implementation is not good - it is bad then.



The seem pretty straight forward to me. Main for the stuff built by Mandriva, Contrib for community stuff, Backports for new software thats been ported to after a release and PLF for proprietary stuff. Whats a mess there?
the mess is as follows (description of my experience):

I needed pdftk and wanted to have Digikam on my system. So far so good. pdftk is not in the default repo's. So you need to enable a new repo, just for this app. This repo brings all the apps, which are already in the default repo with it... but in a different version. Great - so from now on you have 2 versions of libs, 2 versions of apps in the package manager. Of course, disabling the repo does the job... you think... wrong - at least in this case. During installing Digikam with disabled pdftk-repo, I always got the message "dependency could not be resolved". So asking and searching around brought up another repo... the same game as before: from now on there was the third version of all packages available... So to make a long story short: after enabling all repos which were available, I could install Digikam. But it did not start, because during the install it pulled a wrong lib (the newest version, which did not work) and I got failure messages. So doing everything reverse... and forcing the old lib during install... then it worked. I never had such trouble with dependencies, chaotic adding repos, and so on with a distro before and afterwards.

To me all this is a clear indicator of a stupid mess. You juggle around with repos, just to get a program. All these differenciation between main, conrib and backports just exists on paper in Mandriva. There is no real structure.

[Exodist]

I tried Mandriva 2010 and it doesn't have any problems like Ubuntu 9.10 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314031) has on my hardware very good distro but I don't like RPM


May I suggest Debian 5.0.3 Lenny

[~sHyLoCk~]

Yes, sadly there is no 64 bit version of ONE and AFAIK there are no plans to change this. 64 bit Users will have to use the "FOSS only" DVD version "FREE" (and install proprietary stuff post-install) or use "Powerpack".

Yes i know. However it's worth the 4.3 Gb download. Each release of mandriva worked like a charm for me and the people I gave. It's a well designed organised distribution. No chaos.


It's well worth it though. Mandriva 2010.0 is sweet. The best Mandriva .0 release yet, imo.

QFT.:popcorn:

[ad_267]

Man, they really need to advertise their upcoming releases more. I only just downloaded 2009 to try.

[meho_r]

The confusion in this thread is evidence of the main drawback to Mandriva. The company really needs to get organise its info and have some proper visibility.

Technically the distro is great. The company have some concerns however...

Agreed. Unclear marketing strategy of the company is a sad thing.


speed? its exactly as fast as Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Even the boottime: Mandriva is slightly slower. But this is not the issue. The issue is usability and the impression it makes to the user. To me it made a chaotic impression.
Of course there are other nice things, like the networkmanager and so on, but my overall impression was not sooo great.
Boot time on my machine is about even, + or - a sec., but in starting apps it is not. I mentioned OpenOffice.org as an example because OOo is a "heavy" one. 4 sec. vs. 10+ sec. isn't a little difference. Of course, it is what I experience, maybe your experience is different.


KDE implementation... the Mandriva-specific icons are ugly in my eyes. They don't fit to the overall KDE style. And I had the impression that there is too much Gnome stuff mixed into KDE. So for me the KDE implementation is far from being the best. If a distro mixes Gnome stuff into their KDE, then the implementation is not good - it is bad then.
Many people say Ubuntu is ugly like hell. I don't agree. You think icons are ugly in Mandriva, I don't agree. What now? It IS a personal preference, isn't it? And it is really difficult to avoid mixing different DE's apps because in that case of "pure" DE you'll have to miss some great ones (e.g. GIMP and OpenOffice.org). I don't think of it as "a bad implementation".

And as for repos, well that is a mess you described :D I haven't had any similar experience... yet. You did ask about it on Mandriva's forum, didn't you? As with Ubuntu, there may be some simple solution that escapes us...

And about impression. I presented Mandriva to some of my friends and they liked it and worked they way around without problem. No chaos, no mess.

Thinking of this (not related to your post Screwdriver0815 :)), comes in mind, when I approached a distro in past with "OK, I use <name_the_distro_here>, let's see if this one can do what <name_the_distro_here> can" or a similar thought, I ended up with "This is a crap!" But when I started to think differently and changed my approach I ended up with "Wow, this one is great too... There are some glitches like this-and-that, but I still like it very much..." I'll continue to use <name_the_distro_here> but have a sympathy, love, compassion (you name it), for other distros too...

[wxnker]

Thinking of this (not related to your post Screwdriver0815 ), comes in mind, when I approached a distro in past with "OK, I use <name_the_distro_here>, let's see if this one can do what <name_the_distro_here> can" or a similar thought, I ended up with "This is a crap!" But when I started to think differently and changed my approach I ended up with "Wow, this one is great too... There are some glitches like this-and-that, but I still like it very much..." I'll continue to use <name_the_distro_here> but have a sympathy, love, compassion (you name it), for other distros too...
I think what you're saying is important. I made the switch from Ubuntu to Mandriva a couple of years ago myself. I had to adapt to a few things but all in all I'm glad I gave it a fair chance. I have used every Mandriva release since then and 2010 is at least as good as any of the previous releases.

It's always easier to use what you're used to. If you're used to deb then you will always prefer it compared to rpm (I don't care personally). If you're used to Synaptic then you may not like rpmdrake immediately. Same goes for urpmi vs apt.

Comments on previous replies:
Are the Mandriva repositories a mess? Far from it. It's just a different distro than Kubuntu with another structure.

Is adding PLF for restricted stuff difficult? It's just about as easy as in Ubuntu. A few clicks.

Is Rpmdrake crap? Far from it. IMHO it's the "easiest to use" of all package managers in the world of Linux. This goes for a lot of the GUI tools in the Mandriva Control Center (drakconf).

Now some people may not like the fact that Mandriva doesn't use the default look for KDE. But everything is done for a reason. Mandriva is a multi DE distro and not separated into different projects (with different looks) like K/Ubuntu. Many users like the out of the box integration between KDE and Gnome in Mandriva. It's actually a big plus for Mandriva, IMO. Some KDE only users may not like this, but then again, they are free to switch to the KDE default theme instead.

I agree that the Mandriva IaOra themes could use a make over (especially for KDE). They look outdated. But is the default themes and the default icons what's important when choosing an OS? If so, then I wouldn't have Ubuntu on my machine.

But I do have Ubuntu installed - and I like it.

[Screwdriver0815]

Many people say Ubuntu is ugly like hell. I don't agree. You think icons are ugly in Mandriva, I don't agree. What now? It IS a personal preference, isn't it? And it is really difficult to avoid mixing different DE's apps because in that case of "pure" DE you'll have to miss some great ones (e.g. GIMP and OpenOffice.org). I don't think of it as "a bad implementation".


of course it is an individual thing of taste and so on. With mixing Gnome and KDE I did not mean mixing apps, I meant mixing icons in some areas. But anyway, this is just a minor and pure optical thing.



And as for repos, well that is a mess you described :D I haven't had any similar experience... yet. You did ask about it on Mandriva's forum, didn't you? As with Ubuntu, there may be some simple solution that escapes us...

yes, of course I asked in the forums. Otherwise I wouldn't been able to get out of this mess ;) :D



Thinking of this (not related to your post Screwdriver0815 :)), comes in mind, when I approached a distro in past with "OK, I use <name_the_distro_here>, let's see if this one can do what <name_the_distro_here> can" or a similar thought, I ended up with "This is a crap!" But when I started to think differently and changed my approach I ended up with "Wow, this one is great too... There are some glitches like this-and-that, but I still like it very much..." I'll continue to use <name_the_distro_here> but have a sympathy, love, compassion (you name it), for other distros too...

this is always my approach: "lets see whether this distro can float my boat". Its not comparing other distro's and judgeing things you are used to with things you have to learn - in this case you always end up with "this is crap!"
So at me it is always judgeing if the distro can do what I need, no matter if I have to learn or to adopt to something.
But the overall impression of the distro itself also plays a role. My impression wasn't good... so anyway, I have written my experience....

[wxnker]

That's the beauty of Linux. There's something for all of us. :D

[Screwdriver0815]

Are the Mandriva repositories a mess? Far from it. It's just a different distro than Kubuntu with another structure.

Is adding PLF for restricted stuff difficult? It's just about as easy as in Ubuntu. A few clicks.

Is Rpmdrake crap? Far from it. IMHO it's the "easiest to use" of all package managers in the world of Linux. This goes for a lot of the GUI tools in the Mandriva Control Center (drakconf).


maybe its a different structure. But I as a user did not understand the "structure". Because when you have "app xy" in the main repo, it must be logical that all the dependencies are in the main repo too, or not?
As I tried it, this wasn't the case. Structure? I did not recognise any. Adding the repos was indeed really easy. But the way how they deal with "adding repo there", "adding repos here" is really too much for me. Maybe its also because I am german and therefore need to have it in correct way... ;) :D

Rpmdrake... easy to use... maybe, but I'd rather have a package manager which does not always say "dependencies can not be resolved"... while urpmi in the terminal does the job...

the Mandriva control center and the tools in there are great. Agreed. Thats what I said before.


That's the beauty of Linux. There's something for all of us. :D

yes, thats right!! :D

[symon1980]

I been using mandriva on and off for a couple years.... I agree it is a great distro.... and im currently using 2010 kde one..... and it rocks.

however in saying that... The package manager DOES have a couple quirks that need to be sorted out....

searching for a package by "description" takes until the next Millenium to return results! I don't understand why this is.... where as in other package managers such as synaptic/Yast etc.... it is lightning quick!

another annoying thing about mandrivas package manager is that it locks up quite alot... you might install something, quit... then decide to open the package manager again, and it is often locked up and you have to remove the lock in the konsole.........

if it wasn't for these 2 things... I would say that mandriva's package manager is Just as Good as Synaptic.....

[Naiki Muliaina]

Just tried it after leaving Mandy for Ubuntu in years ago. I am now reminded what a modern desktop should feel like....

Its not about turning you desktop into a spinning cube or wobbley windows.. Its about doing something useful or just with a bit of flair as opposed to out and out bling...

I may be defecting from Ubuntu shortly... >.<

[symon1980]

OpenSuse is a better choice in my opinion.... and now opensuse 11.2 is out! both are great distrubutions, but err..... Opensuse's Package manager "doesn't" suck ;)

[wolfdale]

For me, Ubuntu 9.10 is best for Gnome and Mandriva for KDE. I triple boot along with Windows XP.

[SeePU]

I tried Mandriva 2010 Live CD both the Gnome and KDE version on my older laptop, a Thinkpad T41. It's the only distro to work with 3D desktop effects enabled! That alone, says something to me! They know what they're doing!

For you guys who can't find the release, it's not that hard. Just go to Distrowatch and download it there if you have to. Or you can follow the links directly to the Mandriva page.

I liked both versions, Gnome and KDE seemed very good and although I'm used to KDE, either one would be welcome on my Thinkpad.

Ubuntu 9.10, Karmic, on the other hand....nah... it crashes whenever trying 3D effects.

[SunnyRabbiera]

Wow, testing Mandriva 2010 and I am utterly amazed by it.
openSUSE looked to be my distro for the next 6 months but Mandy 2010 looks to be a even bigger win for me.

KDE 4.3 seemsmuch more stable in Mandy, so far no crash.
I will see how this thing goes and if it lasts me a bit then I might make it my new distro.
My big concern is updates, I hope they stay on the ball for updates.
Old mandrivas had issues keeping up to date.

[Roasted]

speed? its exactly as fast as Kubuntu/Ubuntu. Even the boottime: Mandriva is slightly slower. But this is not the issue. The issue is usability and the impression it makes to the user. To me it made a chaotic impression.
Of course there are other nice things, like the networkmanager and so on, but my overall impression was not sooo great.

KDE implementation... the Mandriva-specific icons are ugly in my eyes. They don't fit to the overall KDE style. And I had the impression that there is too much Gnome stuff mixed into KDE. So for me the KDE implementation is far from being the best. If a distro mixes Gnome stuff into their KDE, then the implementation is not good - it is bad then.



the mess is as follows (description of my experience):

I needed pdftk and wanted to have Digikam on my system. So far so good. pdftk is not in the default repo's. So you need to enable a new repo, just for this app. This repo brings all the apps, which are already in the default repo with it... but in a different version. Great - so from now on you have 2 versions of libs, 2 versions of apps in the package manager. Of course, disabling the repo does the job... you think... wrong - at least in this case. During installing Digikam with disabled pdftk-repo, I always got the message "dependency could not be resolved". So asking and searching around brought up another repo... the same game as before: from now on there was the third version of all packages available... So to make a long story short: after enabling all repos which were available, I could install Digikam. But it did not start, because during the install it pulled a wrong lib (the newest version, which did not work) and I got failure messages. So doing everything reverse... and forcing the old lib during install... then it worked. I never had such trouble with dependencies, chaotic adding repos, and so on with a distro before and afterwards.

To me all this is a clear indicator of a stupid mess. You juggle around with repos, just to get a program. All these differenciation between main, conrib and backports just exists on paper in Mandriva. There is no real structure.

Have you... used Mandriva? Not to stir up a big argument here, but I've been a long time Ubuntu user. Recently I got into KDE so I tried Kubuntu. Based on continued recommendations from KDE fans to try Mandriva or OpenSuSE, claiming that Kubuntu's implementation of KDE was rather poor, I decided to try it.

Oh. My. God. Mandriva and OpenSuSE are both much faster than even my quad core desktop running Kubuntu. Much love to the Ubuntu team, but it's evident Kubuntu is the red headed step child of the family, which is a real shame because it has potential if people dedicate the proper time to it.

I found Mandriva to be unusually organized, very prompt, mature, and the developers are great to interact with. They have a lot of interest in the future of open source software and did a fantastic job of the overall operating system.

In the end, we're all using Linux. But while I have options available, I need to use what works best. Sadly, that's when my relationship with *buntu ended. But Ubuntu will always have a special place with me. There's no denying that.

[Khakilang]

I try Mandriva 2009 and compare with Ubuntu 9.04 on my older computer and see which work best. I found it a tad slower than Ubuntu and hence I use Ubuntu. But no doubt its a good Distro I have no problem installing. But because I am using an older computer I need that extra speed.

[Roasted]

I try Mandriva 2009 and compare with Ubuntu 9.04 on my older computer and see which work best. I found it a tad slower than Ubuntu and hence I use Ubuntu. But no doubt its a good Distro I have no problem installing. But because I am using an older computer I need that extra speed.

Compare 2010 and Ubuntu 9.10.

Go on. I dare ya. :P

[BigSilly]

I totally agree that Mandriva is a brilliant Linux. It gets a bit of hassle from the hardcore, but it's the only Linux I've used that you can install and not have to use the terminal. The Mandriva Control Centre is clear, simple and easy to navigate. In that regard, not only is it ideal for the newcomer, but it's ideal for anyone at all who wants to use a computer. It doesn't get in the way of the user, unlike many other distros, Ubuntu included, which seem to constantly need some skill on the command line to fix.

While I thought Mandriva 2009 was lacking and problematic (mostly because of an early KDE4), 2010 is really brilliant. I'd recommend it to anyone.

[Roasted]

I totally agree that Mandriva is a brilliant Linux. It gets a bit of hassle from the hardcore, but it's the only Linux I've used that you can install and not have to use the terminal. The Mandriva Control Centre is clear, simple and easy to navigate. In that regard, not only is it ideal for the newcomer, but it's ideal for anyone at all who wants to use a computer. It doesn't get in the way of the user, unlike many other distros, Ubuntu included, which seem to constantly need some skill on the command line to fix.

While I thought Mandriva 2009 was lacking and problematic (mostly because of an early KDE4), 2010 is really brilliant. I'd recommend it to anyone.

I agree. Mandriva is that OS that I'll always have a special spot for. It's the one I'd recommend to new users or even advanced users who just don't want to deal with any BS. Mandriva is an amazing OS that I think very highly of.

However, I'm kind of a junkie when it comes to administration stuff. I don't know what it is, but openSuSE keeps drawing my attention. I'm running it now to get a better feel as to whether or not it's what I want to use full time. So far, all impressions are positive, and I'm actually quite liking the RPM side of things.

[alexfish]

I would rather wait for Ubuntu Lucid

Not a fan of present Mandriva Marketing policies : which part of Mandriva to buy :

http://www2.mandriva.com/

[Roasted]

Ironically it's funny how my preference of distros changed since I last posted here. I ran into some issues running Mandriva along with openSUSE at work, so I've since came back to *buntu. Not only that, but I began to run into some issues with KDE, particularly with Samba only working when it wanted to (Dolphin?).

I'm sure Lucid's Kubuntu may be a home run. After all, Mark Shuttleworth said he wanted Ubuntu and Kubuntu to eventually become parallel and get equally implemented.

But yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to run Mandriva or OpenSUSE again. Both very solid distros. But I just needed certain packages to work on my laptop at work and Mandriva and OpenSUSE couldn't run for some reason.

[SuperSonic4]

Compare 2010 and Ubuntu 9.10.

Go on. I dare ya. :P

Compare Mandriva and Kubuntu :p

Mandriva is like a Dreadnought, and Kubuntu a sailboat with a hole in.


I found that mandriva was too stable for me, the main criticism being that urmpi was annoying, also I like to tinker XD