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sudoer541
October 29th, 2009, 07:35 PM
is it legal to download ubuntu with a bit torrent client?
if yes what torrent clients work on windows xp?
once torrent program is installed, how can I find today's release of ubuntu 9.10?

wilee-nilee
October 29th, 2009, 07:37 PM
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors Running at 235 KiB down and 25 up at the moment I think I will seed away.

earthpigg
October 29th, 2009, 07:37 PM
you should download 9.10 via torrent, as a matter of fact! :D it will download faster, and maybe save the company behind Ubuntu a few bucks.

(Ubuntu is free for you to download, but it certainly isn't free for them to host the download for millions around the world...)

any torrent client is fine.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt

ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
and
ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

are the standard ones. grab amd64 if you have any relatively modern CPU. i386 if you have an old p4 or something.

NoaHall
October 29th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Yes it's legal. uTorrent is a good one. Just add the torrent URL given.

Tibuda
October 29th, 2009, 07:39 PM
is it legal to download ubuntu with a bit torrent client?
yes, ubuntu is free as in "free beer" and as in "free speech".

if yes what torrent clients work on windows xp?
http://deluge-torrent.org/
http://www.utorrent.com/

once torrent program is installed, how can I find today's release of ubuntu 9.10?
see wilee-nilee and earthpig replies

See also: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/getting#download

PhoHammer
October 29th, 2009, 07:46 PM
you should download 9.10 via torrent, as a matter of fact! :D it will download faster, and maybe save the company behind Ubuntu a few bucks.

(Ubuntu is free for you to download, but it certainly isn't free for them to host the download for millions around the world...)

any torrent client is fine.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt

ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
and
ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent

are the standard ones. grab amd64 if you have any relatively modern CPU. i386 if you have an old p4 or something.

I love release days! Makes me want to seed it even though I have had 9.10 installed since
alpha!

marchwarden
October 29th, 2009, 07:53 PM
you should download 9.10 via torrent, as a matter of fact! :D it will download faster, and maybe save the company behind Ubuntu a few bucks.

I would also recommend using bittorrent as well, took only 14 mins to download by bittorent when I would have been looking at 2 hours to download from the nearest server.

sudoer541
October 29th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I am currently downloading ubuntu as well at 50Kbps:(
thats what I get when I go with a cheap ISP.:(

lovinglinux
October 29th, 2009, 08:41 PM
yes, ubuntu is free as in "free beer" and as in "free speech".

http://deluge-torrent.org/
http://www.utorrent.com/

see wilee-nilee and earthpig replies

See also: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/getting#download

I personally recommend Deluge and Ktorrent, since they also have Ubuntu versions and are the best BitTorrent clients IMO.

If you are not familiar with torrents, see BitTorrent optimization and troubleshooting guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259923).

ssam
October 29th, 2009, 09:16 PM
according to transmission there are currently 7000 seeds for the i386-desktop version!

lovinglinux
October 29th, 2009, 09:20 PM
according to transmission there are currently 7000 seeds for the i386-desktop version!

...and 6300 peers.

I'm already seeding it and also the alternate cd.

Cam42
October 29th, 2009, 09:22 PM
I prefer the official BitTorrent client on Windoze XP myself.

wilee-nilee
October 29th, 2009, 10:21 PM
I have all 6 of the Koala seeding but at a 10 kib down 5 kib up rate, gotta support the team.

hoppipolla
October 29th, 2009, 10:28 PM
It's wicked so many people are seeding it, Ktorrent has been sitting down there most of the day seeding! heh :)

JillSwift
October 29th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Seeding makes for good Karma. Bab-pum-ching.

lovinglinux
October 29th, 2009, 10:38 PM
It's wicked so many people are seeding it, Ktorrent has been sitting down there most of the day seeding! heh :)

Does the seeder/peer number just dropped to 3600/2800 for the i386-desktop torrent or my client is crazy? I have already manually scraped a few times, but it doesn't seem to increase much further.

Cam42
October 29th, 2009, 10:39 PM
I had to stop seeding. Sorry, I needed to install. :D

lovinglinux
October 29th, 2009, 10:40 PM
I had to stop seeding. Sorry, I needed to install. :D

Strike that, it's increasing gradually with additional scrapes.

phrostbyte
October 29th, 2009, 10:55 PM
I'm seeding Ubuntu 32-bit, 64-bit and the Netbook remix currently. It looks like my bandwidth is not being utilized that much because of the insanely large amount of seeders.

squilookle
October 29th, 2009, 11:11 PM
I'm getting about 400kb down and 30 up, although I did just see it jump to 800 for a while.

I'll leave the computer overnight to seed, until I go to work in the morning. :)

bonfire89
October 29th, 2009, 11:21 PM
my download hit 2.5MB/s a few handful of times.. At that point I think it was my wifi that was limiting me.

(I was downloading it off the university connection while sitting in class)

sudoer541
October 29th, 2009, 11:24 PM
I need your support people!:p please seed the 32 bit version. My turtle internet is still downloading @ 20Kbps!:(

cariboo
October 29th, 2009, 11:29 PM
I would check your preferences to see if you have the correct ports open on your router. I used to have a range of ports from 6990 to 6999 open for torrents. For some reason since I got my new cable modem, I don't need to do it anymore.

sudoer541
October 29th, 2009, 11:53 PM
I would check your preferences to see if you have the correct ports open on your router. I used to have a range of ports from 6990 to 6999 open for torrents. For some reason since I got my new cable modem, I don't need to do it anymore.

my ports have not changed since I downloaded the program. I'm using Utorrent on windows xp and the only changes I have made is the priority. the priority was set to normal and I changed it to high. I am not limiting dl/ul speeds.

edit: my port is 27304

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:00 AM
btw, my download speed was ok when I started downloading. now its very slow.
In case if I restart my modem, will this delete/corrupt my downloads?

bonfire89
October 30th, 2009, 12:04 AM
btw, my download speed was ok when I started downloading. now its very slow.
In case if I restart my modem, will this delete/corrupt my downloads?

torrents can be resumed from my experience.

Perhaps pause it before you restart to be extra sure. I think there may also be some other benefits to that too (updating the tracker or something)

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:05 AM
btw, my download speed was ok when I started downloading. now its very slow.
In case if I restart my modem, will this delete/corrupt my downloads?

How many seeder and peers you are connected to?

You can restart your modem, it won't affect your torrents integrity.

You might want to check the Troubleshooting section of BitTorrent optimization and troubleshooting guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259923)

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:07 AM
torrents can be resumed from my experience.

Perhaps pause it before you restart to be extra sure. I think there may also be some other benefits to that too (updating the tracker or something)

I updated the tracker before 5 minutes ago. I just realized that the ppl who I am downloading from, have very slow speeds. If someone could seed karmic in full speed would be appreciated!

edit: my upload speed is good. its 40-50kbps.

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:15 AM
If someone could seed karmic in full speed would be appreciated!

Is not that simple, since most peers do not upload just to single downloader at any given time. They share their upload bandwidth among all peers they are uploading to. For example, my upload speed is 50 KiB/s, but I'm currently uploading to 16 peers, so each one gets just approximately 3 KiB/s.

Nevertheless, you should be able to reach high speeds, if you are connected to enough peers. I was downloading the i386-desktop a couple of hours ago at 400 Kib/s, which is almost my download speed limit.

As I said in my previous post, I recommend that you read the BitTorrent optimization and troubleshooting guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259923). It will help you improve your download speeds.

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:20 AM
Is not that simple, since most peers do not upload just to single downloader at any given time. They share their upload bandwidth among all peers they are uploading to. For example, my upload speed is 50 KiB/s, but I'm currently uploading to 16 peers, so each one gets just approximately 3 KiB/s.

Nevertheless, you should be able to reach high speeds, if you are connected to enough peers. I was downloading the i386-desktop a couple of hours ago at 400 Kib/s, which is almost my download speed limit.

As I said in my previous post, I recommend that you read the BitTorrent optimization and troubleshooting guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259923). It will help you improve your download speeds.

I used the tutorial you posted. It improved the speed slightly.

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:24 AM
I used the tutorial you posted. It improved the speed slightly.

So, what is your download bandwidth limit? How many peers and seeder you are connected to? What is your current download speed?

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:30 AM
So, what is your download bandwidth limit? How many peers and seeder you are connected to? What is your current download speed?

previous download speed: 20Kbps
Current download speed: 25~27KBps
peers before: 19 (8853 available)
peers now: 26 (8879 available)
seeders before: 160 (4960 available)
seeders now: 164 (5016 available)

NCLI
October 30th, 2009, 12:35 AM
I think he meant to ask you what speed you're paying for, fx. 1Mbit per second down, 512 kilobit per second up.

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:37 AM
I think he meant to ask you what speed you're paying for, fx. 1Mbit per second down, 512 kilobit per second up.

Ohh!! I pay for 5MBps but I receive only 512 Kbps because my ISP claims that I am away from their central office. I have ADSL btw.

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:37 AM
previous download speed: 20Kbps
Current download speed: 25~27KBps
peers before: 19 (8853 available)
peers now: 26 (8879 available)
seeders before: 160 (4960 available)
seeders now: 164 (5016 available)

You shouldn't be experiencing such slow speeds with so many connected seeders. I've got max speed with a lot less seeders.

Try to set your UPload speed limit to 80% of your UPload bandwidth limit. If you use unlimited UPload speeds, it can clog your network and reduce your DOWNload speeds.

What BitTorrent client you are using?

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:38 AM
I am almost done. about 15 minutes left.

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:40 AM
You shouldn't be experiencing such slow speeds with so many connected seeders. I've got max speed with a lot less seeders.

Try to set your UPload speed limit to 80% of your UPload bandwidth limit. If you use unlimited UPload speeds, it can clog your network and reduce your DOWNload speeds.

What BitTorrent client you are using?

OMG!!! that worked!!! now I download @ 55Kbps!
Thanks a million!

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:42 AM
Ohh!! I pay for 5MBps but I receive only 512 Kbps because my ISP claims that I am away from their central office. I have ADSL btw.

So your maximum download speed will be 62.50 KiB/s. It's not weird to get 27 KiB/s then, but it could be better anyway.

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 12:45 AM
OMG!!! that worked!!! now I download @ 55Kbps!
Thanks a million!

You cheated, because this info is in my tutorial :lol:

OK, I know, the tutorial is a little bit big :)

Happy torrenting ;)

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 12:48 AM
You cheated, because this info is in my tutorial :lol:

OK, I know, the tutorial is a little bit big :)

Happy torrenting ;)

i skipped couple of lines lol.
Do you know how to dualboot ubuntu with xp? I forgot how to do it.
I think I used to go to the manual option on the ubuntu installer but I forgot what to do next?

NCLI
October 30th, 2009, 12:56 AM
i skipped couple of lines lol.
Do you know how to dualboot ubuntu with xp? I forgot how to do it.
I think I used to go to the manual option on the ubuntu installer but I forgot what to do next?
Just make sure you don't delete the partition XP is on and the rest should handle itself ;)

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 01:05 AM
i skipped couple of lines lol.
Do you know how to dualboot ubuntu with xp? I forgot how to do it.
I think I used to go to the manual option on the ubuntu installer but I forgot what to do next?

I prefer the manual option, but if there is also an option to install side-by-side, which should create some space for Ubuntu. Nevertheless, the manual procedure allows you to create a separate partition for your home directory. This is the place where most of your settings and all personal files are stored. So, with a separate home partition, you can completely re-install Ubuntu and still keep your settings. This might not sound very useful now, but will be when a new Ubuntu is released.

Take a look at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ for some easy tutorials.

You might want to try the Wubi installation (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wubi)

HappyFeet
October 30th, 2009, 01:11 AM
I had to stop seeding. Sorry, I needed to install. :D

As long as you resume seeding after install.

alket
October 30th, 2009, 01:15 AM
As long as you resume seeding after install.

How to resume, because I want to seed from another computer.

lovinglinux
October 30th, 2009, 01:16 AM
How to resume, because I want to seed from another computer.

Save the ISO file in the destination folder configured in the other machine BitTorrent client and add the .torrent file to it. It will automatically check the status of the download and start seeding.

sudoer541
October 30th, 2009, 01:37 AM
Thanks everyone I am up and running!

kpholmes
October 30th, 2009, 04:17 AM
i just added all the ubuntu and kubuntu torrents to my seedbox,





once i have them i can seed INCREDIBLY fast!!!!!!!