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Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 08:55 PM
Is this really how English sounds before you learn it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9vd8EfLaY

If so, I think that sounds pretty cool. :)


Btw, for all you language buffs out there, this is an interesting piece in Old English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wl-OZ3breE

Although, I think this more Scandinavian sounding one sounds a bit cooler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP2FyVbymTg

That great vowel shift seriously changed the language, didn't it?

Mateo
October 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM
i don't get it.

Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 09:00 PM
i don't get it.

I may have not been exactly too clear in my original post. What I mean is: Do the sounds that he calls, "fake English" sound like what English sounds like before you understand/learn it? You know, like how another language sounds like gibberish and a bunch of sounds before you learn it?

-grubby
October 22nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
Well that's... awesome?

chucky chuckaluck
October 22nd, 2009, 09:11 PM
try reading "finnegan's wake" out loud and you'll have it covered.

mechro
October 22nd, 2009, 09:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2iD-oNqD_I

Mateo
October 22nd, 2009, 09:28 PM
I may have not been exactly too clear in my original post. What I mean is: Do the sounds that he calls, "fake English" sound like what English sounds like before you understand/learn it? You know, like how another language sounds like gibberish and a bunch of sounds before you learn it?

i got that part, but what is his fake english? is it english with bad pronounciations?

Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 09:35 PM
i got that part, but what is his fake english? is it english with bad pronounciations?

No, it's a bunch of random English sounds jumbled up together. It's supposed to give the same effect as hearing a language that you don't know.

Basically, it's supposed to simulate to a native English speaker what English would sound like to a non-native speaker, who doesn't have a knowledge of how to speak it.

Marlonsm
October 22nd, 2009, 09:36 PM
i got that part, but what is his fake english? is it english with bad pronounciations?

Actually not, it seems to be something that makes no sense if you know English, but for people who don't know, it'll look like English.

Mateo
October 22nd, 2009, 09:41 PM
oh, i understand then. yeah, i guess that is interesting. id really like to learn dutch.

Sealbhach
October 22nd, 2009, 09:58 PM
They say Icelandic is the most similar to Old English (Anglo-Saxon).

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Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 10:01 PM
They say Icelandic is the most similar to Old English (Anglo-Saxon).

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I wouldn't be surprised. Icelandic has retained many early Germanic features, and on top of that, the Norse seemed to have had a run in with the English quite a few times.

nmccrina
October 22nd, 2009, 10:24 PM
Enough with the English Language threads already! Holy phonics.

Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 10:29 PM
Enough with the English Language threads already! Holy phonics.

Oh, because the grand total of two threads is a ridiculously large amount of times to post about something that interests me and others, in the off-topic section?

This might not have occurred to you, but there are people in this forum who like things that you don't.

Good day.

nmccrina
October 22nd, 2009, 10:39 PM
Oh, because the grand total of two threads is a ridiculously large amount of times to post about something that interests me and others, in the off-topic section?

This might not have occurred to you, but there are people in this forum who like things that you don't.

Good day.

Sorry, I spoke without thinking. Touche.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 10:48 PM
Wow that was really cool! I was hooked on watching some of those fake language vids lol :)

Genius314
October 22nd, 2009, 11:04 PM
That's pretty cool.
I've thought before what English sounds like to non-English speakers... now I know.
Also, is it common to see other people making fun of English, the way a lot of English shows and movies sometimes joke about other languages?

I've also wondered what an American accent sounds like to someone in England or Australia...

kk0sse54
October 22nd, 2009, 11:08 PM
Is this really how English sounds before you learn it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9vd8EfLaY

If so, I think that sounds pretty cool. :)


Btw, for all you language buffs out there, this is an interesting piece in Old English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wl-OZ3breE

Although, I think this more Scandinavian sounding one sounds a bit cooler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP2FyVbymTg

That great vowel shift seriously changed the language, didn't it?

Interesting, but just furthers my own perception that english is an ugly language.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 11:19 PM
Interesting, but just furthers my own perception that english is an ugly language.

I dunno man. I mean it's not BEAUTIFUL as some languages get described, but I'd never go so far as to say it's ugly!

Nepherte
October 22nd, 2009, 11:28 PM
As a person who speaks Dutch natively: No, English does not sound like Dutch :)

koenn
October 22nd, 2009, 11:31 PM
Is this really how English sounds before you learn it?
it's pretty close, except a small section in the middle.
But it doesn't sound like Dutch at all.
(Or maybe it does to people who don't know Dutch)





That great vowel shift seriously changed the language, didn't it?
I think the consonant shifts were rather more influential

Gwasanaethau
October 22nd, 2009, 11:33 PM
As a person who speaks Dutch natively: No, English does not sound like Dutch :)
I don't speak Dutch (but I've heard it), and I'd have to agree. It's certainly a lot closer to German (which I can speak a little of). I can understand the jist of some Dutch sentences from my small knowledge of German, but I certainly couldn't understand it from just English alone.

I have to say those videos were really interesting, Grant. Thanks for sharing.

Grant A.
October 22nd, 2009, 11:45 PM
Interesting, but just furthers my own perception that english is an ugly language.

Well, the written part of English is quite ugly. But I really wouldn't call the spoken part ugly.


it's pretty close, except a small section in the middle.
But it doesn't sound like Dutch at all.
(Or maybe it does to people who don't know Dutch)


Thanks for the answer. What language does English sound the most like, though?




I think the consonant shifts were rather more influential

Grimm's law? Definately.

Or are you talking about some English-specific consonant shift?



I have to say those videos were really interesting, Grant. Thanks for sharing.

You're quite welcome. :)

Bölvağur
October 23rd, 2009, 12:11 AM
Basically, it's supposed to simulate to a native English speaker what English would sound like to a non-native speaker, who doesn't have a knowledge of how to speak it.
yes it works. But you could actually make it sound every more extreme and anyone that doesnt understand the words wouldnt be any wiser.

When I say more extreme I mean something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFKRCjf5sVg



Thanks for the answer. What language does English sound the most like, though?old english.
it doesnt sound like any modern language. it's been too perverted and mixed throughout the ages, so it's pretty much on its own today.

Sealbhach
October 23rd, 2009, 01:25 AM
When I say more extreme I mean something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFKRCjf5sVg



That does sound like English.:)

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schauerlich
October 23rd, 2009, 01:33 AM
Oh, because the grand total of two threads is a ridiculously large amount of times to post about something that interests me and others, in the off-topic section?

This might not have occurred to you, but there are people in this forum who like things that you don't.

I think the more angry you get, the more you use the bold tags.

Grant A.
October 23rd, 2009, 01:35 AM
I think the more angry you get, the more you use the bold tags.

Orly? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8148804#post8148804) :D

Giant Speck
October 23rd, 2009, 01:35 AM
I think the more angry you get, the more you use the bold tags.

I think you're just going crazy and are imagining things.

schauerlich
October 23rd, 2009, 01:39 AM
Orly? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8148804#post8148804) :D

I think that post was making fun of the same thing on a less explicit way