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edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:23 AM
Favorite kind of metal and bands?

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
Aluminum

Nah just kidding. Maybe Black Metal I guess. Used to be hugely into that stuff. Not really a metal head anymore though.

dragos240
October 22nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
Iron. Steel. Copper. Titanium. To name a few.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:27 AM
Aluminum

Nah just kidding. Maybe Black Metal I guess. Used to be hugely into that stuff. Not really a metal head anymore though.

Pft, traitor.

Ms_Angel_D
October 22nd, 2009, 02:30 AM
OMG that is just too much, why do people feel the need to break metal down even further than what it already is. I like Metal and that's all I'll say.

Simian Man
October 22nd, 2009, 02:32 AM
I like some of almost all types, but symphonic is my favorite. Apocalyptica is my current favorite band.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:32 AM
OMG that is just too much, why do people feel the need to break metal down even further than what it already is. I like Metal and that's all I'll say.

Lmao, that is a pretty simple sub-genre breakdown, It can get a whole lot worse than that.

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 02:39 AM
OMG that is just too much, why do people feel the need to break metal down even further than what it already is. I like Metal and that's all I'll say.

Im pretty sure you only like few subgenres, most do, specially the people that claim they like "all music".

Ms_Angel_D
October 22nd, 2009, 02:47 AM
Im pretty sure you only like few subgenres, most do, specially the people that claim they like "all music".

Well I'm pretty sure your mistaken, You don't know me so don't presume to know what I like or dislike.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:51 AM
Well I'm pretty sure your mistaken, You don't know me so don't presume to know what I like or dislike.

You're* :P

venator260
October 22nd, 2009, 02:51 AM
<minor complaint>

"Viking" metal doesn't really exist. People put things as diverse as Tyr and Amon Amarth in that "genre" when really they're just Power and Death metal (respectivly) with Viking lyrical themes. Not to say I don't like it, because I absolutely love Amon Amarth (seen them twice so far).

</minor complaint>

However, I like "Folk" metal better. Even that is one of those odd genre's, as Ensiferum seems to be put there alot, when it's really a mix between black and power metal with lyrical themes taken from Finnish mythology and occasionally has folk instruments sampled in the songs. Korpiklaani I suppose could actually be called folk metal, because their band has a violinist and an accordion player.

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 02:52 AM
I'd just like to point out that grunge is not a form of metal and viking metal is an ambiguous term for metal bands that use viking related lyrics.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:53 AM
<minor complaint>

&quot;Viking&quot; metal doesn't really exist. People put things as diverse as Tyr and Amon Amarth in that &quot;genre&quot; when really they're just Power and Death metal (respectivly) with Viking lyrical themes. Not to say I don't like it, because I absolutely love Amon Amarth (seen them twice so far).

</minor complaint>

However, I like &quot;Folk&quot; metal better. Even that is one of those odd genre's, as Ensiferum seems to be put there alot, when it's really a mix between black and power metal with lyrical themes taken from Finnish mythology and occasionally has folk instruments sampled in the songs. Korpiklaani I suppose could actually be called folk metal, because their band has a violinist and an accordion player.

You could just say that most Viking metal is just folk metal, but that's really a personal opinion.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 02:54 AM
I'd just like to point out that grunge is not a form of metal and viking metal is an ambiguous term for metal bands that use viking related lyrics.

Viking is a pretty widely accepted subgenre, as is Grunge.

Genius314
October 22nd, 2009, 03:02 AM
Where's Power and Progressive? XD

(Also, where's metalcore?! *ducks*)

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 03:05 AM
Where's Power and Progressive? XD

(Also, where's metalcore?! *ducks*)

You can only have 10 options :(

JDShu
October 22nd, 2009, 03:07 AM
I don't even know the difference between rock and metal. All I know is that I like Iron Maiden.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 03:09 AM
I don't even know the difference between rock and metal. All I know is that I like Iron Maiden.

lol ok. Here's an awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o) example of Folk metal.

SomeGuyDude
October 22nd, 2009, 03:15 AM
I notice a distinct lack of grind...

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 03:21 AM
I notice a distinct lack of grind...

Again, the poll is limited to 10 options.

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 03:21 AM
Viking is a pretty widely accepted subgenre, as is Grunge.

You think Nirvana is a metal band?

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 03:23 AM
You think Nirvana is a metal band?

Nope.

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 03:28 AM
Well I'm pretty sure your mistaken, You don't know me so don't presume to know what I like or dislike.

smiple blackmetal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7piTcDllnY)
melodic black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWyQJsjVwU)
Agressive nonmelotic black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Mvn13um4I)
conventional norwegian black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmtfahHv4KA)
suicidal black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hQXfUG2Kw)

slam death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-sFq-V_AK0)
gorgrind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEb5kIHZbE) (couldnt find a good porngrind video that didnt have any naughty words in the intro)
Technical death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9RJXWxth5g)
epic death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1qSumhQzUI)
another slam death metal miscategorised under brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBcZuWoj6BI)
oldschool brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PzagXsD0Y)
brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yu_B2pnOJE)

funeral doom metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8X5W5vVJtk)

humourus suicidal rock (sorry I just had to put some nonmetal link here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F27nlTJ3MLY)

New/rap metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWbgkRpYwc)
girly metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeGZriDklEo)


these are in my opinion good examples of their sub genres, I havent met a single person that prefers to listen to all of them, just some or many.

and Im sorry that this list is this short, I have to go to do some other stuff :)
:guitar:

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 03:29 AM
smiple blackmetal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7piTcDllnY)
melodic black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmWyQJsjVwU)
Agressive nonmelotic black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Mvn13um4I)
conventional norwegian black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmtfahHv4KA)
suicidal black metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hQXfUG2Kw)

slam death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-sFq-V_AK0)
gorgrind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEb5kIHZbE) (couldnt find a good porngrind video that didnt have any naughty words in the intro)
Technical death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9RJXWxth5g)
epic death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1qSumhQzUI)
another slam death metal miscategorised under brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBcZuWoj6BI)
oldschool brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PzagXsD0Y)
brutal death metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yu_B2pnOJE)

funeral doom metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8X5W5vVJtk)

humourus suicidal rock (sorry I just had to put some nonmetal link here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F27nlTJ3MLY)

New/rap metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWbgkRpYwc)
girly metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeGZriDklEo)


these are in my opinion good examples of their sub genres, I havent met a single person that prefers to listen to all of them, just some or many.

and Im sorry that this list is this short, I have to go to do some other stuff :)
:guitar:

LOL. You forgot zombie metal :(

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 03:31 AM
I notice a distinct lack of grind...

grind isn't metal.
you can argue that black metal isnt metal either, but grind is not metal, you can hear it from across the street when the neighbor is playing grind that it's something else than metal ^^



I don't even know the difference between rock and metal. All I know is that I like Iron Maiden.
that is.. oh my mind is tired, you must forgive what I am going to say, is powermetal (well it's surely not speedmetal is it?).

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 03:31 AM
Nope.

Case in point. Grunge is not metal. If there's a form of metal called "grunge metal" I've never heard of it, and it's probably a made up genre.


grind isn't metal.
you can argue that black metal isnt metal either, but grind is not metal, you can hear it from across the street when the neighbor is playing grind that it's something else than metal ^^

Grind is really iffy. You're right, but some of it really blurs the lines between death metal and grindcore.

HappyFeet
October 22nd, 2009, 03:40 AM
What about classic metal? Didn't see it listed.

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 03:59 AM
What about classic metal? Didn't see it listed.

speed or thrash? Im guessing thrash (megadeath/metallica)

sledge73
October 22nd, 2009, 04:03 AM
slayer!

koleoptero
October 22nd, 2009, 09:35 AM
There's folk, melodeath, viking options here, and NOT progressive? What a huge dissapointment...

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 09:38 AM
There's folk, melodeath, viking options here, and NOT progressive? What a huge dissapointment...

For the third time already, the polls are limited to 10 options for some reason. Stop bitching at me! :(

koleoptero
October 22nd, 2009, 09:41 AM
For the third time already, the polls are limited to 10 options for some reason. Stop bitching at me! :(

I'm not bitching at you, you're mistaken in taking it personally. The choices are disappointing (in my opinion), not you. At least you made a topic and poll about heavy metal :P

PrePenguin
October 22nd, 2009, 09:42 AM
Ok Crue,Kiss,Wasp,Nickelback,Metallica,Megadeth,GnR,e tc etc where exactly would this fall? Lost of them categories listed is just noise and screaming to me.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 09:43 AM
No I didn't. Heavy isn't in the poll list. :P

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 09:44 AM
Ok Crue,Kiss,Wasp,Nickelback,Metallica,Megadeth,GnR,e tc etc where exactly would this fall? Lost of them categories listed is just noise and screaming to me.

Awww, not a Mayhem fan? :(

PrePenguin
October 22nd, 2009, 09:48 AM
Awww, not a Mayhem fan? :(


Hahah ya I gotta like mayhem since Tommy lee is in the Crue my fav band since childhood lol.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 09:52 AM
Hahah ya I gotta like mayhem since Tommy lee is in the Crue my fav band since childhood lol.

Lmao. No not Methods of Mayhem. Mayhem is/was a blackmetal band that was involved in church burnings and eating each others brains (kind of).

PrePenguin
October 22nd, 2009, 09:54 AM
Lmao. No not Methods of Mayhem. Mayhem is/was a blackmetal band that was involved in church burnings and eating each others brains (kind of).



Haha I recant then nope not my speed lol...:guitar:

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 09:57 AM
Haha I recant then nope not my speed lol...:guitar:

lol

cascade9
October 22nd, 2009, 10:29 AM
Case in point. Grunge is not metal. If there's a form of metal called "grunge metal" I've never heard of it, and it's probably a made up genre.

I pretty much agree. Even though all those grunge bands did have metal influences.


What about classic metal? Didn't see it listed.

Yeah, thats kinda of...odd.

Sand & Mercury
October 22nd, 2009, 11:10 AM
Toss-up between melodic death and doom metal, but I ended up going doom.

suitedaces
October 22nd, 2009, 11:36 AM
Symphonic! Woot! Though poll says I've already voted?

itreius
October 22nd, 2009, 11:38 AM
bm

nothingspecial
October 22nd, 2009, 11:57 AM
I didn`t realise there were all these kinds of metal...

I used to listen to loads of stuff as a kid but the only metal bands I would listen to on purpose now would be Judas Priest and AC/DC...... oh and Kiss if my wife put them on.

Where do I vote??????

wersdaluv
October 22nd, 2009, 12:02 PM
Power metal

Nozze
October 22nd, 2009, 12:09 PM
I mostly listen to SIDmetal, in the form of Machinae Supremacy http://machinaesupremacy.com/

koshatnik
October 22nd, 2009, 12:49 PM
Hilarious thread, actually. One that beautifully illustrates whats wrong with alot of people in society. This need to categorise to a minute detail and then affiliate themselves with it to the exclusion of all others. :)

Does anyone actually really care about this stuff? I mean really? Who has the time to categorise this guff, let alone argue about it?

Really, I'm genuinely intrigued.

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 12:54 PM
Hilarious thread, actually. One that beautifully illustrates whats wrong with alot of people in society. This need to categorise to a minute detail and then affiliate themselves with it to the exclusion of all others. :)

Does anyone actually really care about this stuff? I mean really? Who has the time to categorise this guff, let alone argue about it?

Really, I'm genuinely intrigued.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/redrobin72/troll-2.gif

nothingspecial
October 22nd, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Does anyone actually really care about this stuff?

Not me ;)

mcduck
October 22nd, 2009, 01:03 PM
Progressive. And Groove. Not that I'd actually pay that much attention to genres/subgenres, apart from the occasional need to describe some band's music to other people.

Quite often bands that can be easily placed into certain subgenre tend to be rather boring, more repeating the basic concepts of that subgenre than actually playing music of their own.

edit: I decided to vote for Death anyway. Although Thrash would have been just as good choice. Or Black. I really think the poll is missing the "all of them"-option. ;)

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 01:26 PM
If you promise not to be a troll I'll answer:


Hilarious thread, actually. One that beautifully illustrates whats wrong with alot of people in society. This need to categorise to a minute detail and then affiliate themselves with it to the exclusion of all others. :)

Does anyone actually really care about this stuff? I mean really? Who has the time to categorise this guff, let alone argue about it?

Really, I'm genuinely intrigued.

Actually no one excludes any other category.. like... why would they? :confused: ? normally people like many genres, often depending on their mood, but you should know that already.

There is no guy putting bands into catalogs. It's normally the band or the fans of a band that discover that there is a new thing with that band and add a new subgenre tag to the songs that sound like that new thing. And every one that has that new thing from now on will also have that subgenre tag.

When explaining how a band sounds it is often done by naming about 2 to 3 of the most obvious subgenres. That way it is easy to explain how music sounds like without knowing anything about music, just knowing what is special about each subgenre.
This is also done with disco. I mean, would you understand how the songs Moby made for Britney Spears sound like if I'd describe them by it's genre.... disco? Or Ac/Dc as rock or Aphex Twin as eletronic.

Like I say, each band is unfluenced by 5-10 subgenres of some genres, and somtimes from more than just one genre, like symponic blackmetal. And there are not many bands that have every single subgenre in common.


it's not complicated :guitar:

edin9
October 22nd, 2009, 01:30 PM
Progressive. And Groove. Not that I'd actually pay that much attention to genres/subgenres, apart from the occasional need to describe some band's music to other people.

Quite often bands that can be easily placed into certain subgenre tend to be rather boring, more repeating the basic concepts of that subgenre than actually playing music of their own.

edit: I decided to vote for Death anyway. Although Thrash would have been just as good choice. Or Black. I really think the poll is missing the &quot;all of them&quot;-option. ;)

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad87/Zhyd/DoubleFacepalmRickerPicard.jpg


It's a multiple choice thread, you could have selected 'all of them'....

koshatnik
October 22nd, 2009, 01:53 PM
normally people like many genres, often depending on their mood, but you should know that already.

Yeah, I get that. My point is, why do people feel the need to a) put a band in a category, b) spend time arguing about the category



There is no guy putting bands into catalogs.

What, its the genre fairy then is it?



It's normally the band or the fans of a band that discover that there is a new thing with that band and add a new subgenre tag to the songs that sound like that new thing. And every one that has that new thing from now on will also have that subgenre tag.

So someone is then? So you've just contradicted yourself? :)

So people do it to be different? It serves no other purpose then.



When explaining how a band sounds it is often done by naming about 2 to 3 of the most obvious subgenres. That way it is easy to explain how music sounds like without knowing anything about music, just knowing what is special about each subgenre.

As long as you know what the genre sounds like. If I went upto someone and said, he's some XYZ it sounds like brazillian deth metal osaka noise punk with a bit of ragga, that would only make sense to that person if they had a knowledge of what all the genres sound like, and as they change all the time because so many idiots spend ages constantly bickering over which subgenre a band belongs in, isnt the whole thing a bit pointless?



This is also done with disco. I mean, would you understand how the songs Moby made for Britney Spears sound like if I'd describe them by it's genre.... disco?

Dunno. I know what both those artists sound like, but throwing a genre in confuses things as genres are huge and mutable. Sub genres requires an specific knowledge.



Like I say, each band is unfluenced by 5-10 subgenres of some genres, and somtimes from more than just one genre, like symponic blackmetal. And there are not many bands that have every single subgenre in common.


Like I said, I don't see the point. Symphonic black metal means nothing to me. It's useless as an indicator of the music. I can only guage that by listening to it.



it's not complicated :guitar:

No, its not. I'm not stupid. I was just pointing out the idiocy of genres.

I find it infinitely easier, if people ask me what it sounds like, to say "music. Listen to it, see if you like it." What's genre got to do with it?

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 01:56 PM
If you think genres for music are stupid, I'm assuming you think genres for literature and films are stupid too? Classifying music makes it easier to find the music you're looking for, and gives you a better idea what to expect from it. If something like "symphonic black metal" means nothing to you, it's because you've never heard any music that falls into that category.

I can see finding people arguing about it stupid, but not genres themselves.

koshatnik
October 22nd, 2009, 02:20 PM
If you think genres for music are stupid, I'm assuming you think genres for literature and films are stupid too?

Yes. Why does it matter what "genre" something is?



If something like "symphonic black metal" means nothing to you, it's because you've never heard any music that falls into that category.

I could well have heard symphonic black metal, in fact I may well have some on my mp3 player right now - how would I know? More importantly, why do I care? Its music. Surely all that matters is if you like it or not, not what genre its in? Or am I one of these freaky people that doesn't make presumptions about a band or song based on arbitrary things like genre?



I can see finding people arguing about it stupid, but not genres themselves.

Yep, I can accept that. I'm not trying to be awkward. If someone says, I saw a great film last night, I say cool, whats it called I might check it out. I don't care what genre it is - what does that matter?

Simian Man
October 22nd, 2009, 02:28 PM
Kostanik, I see your point but there are *millions* of bands out there. Trying to find some new ones I'll like is made much easier by searching specific genres. That's not to say that I only like certain genres and never branch out. But there is probably a 50% chance I will like a symphonic metal band and much less than 1% chance I will like a rap group. Should I really just randomly pick music to listen to irrespective of genre??

Niko Johnson
October 22nd, 2009, 02:28 PM
yeah im not really into metal anymore as much as techno!

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 02:29 PM
Yes. Why does it matter what "genre" something is?

You don't have to care, obviously that shouldn't have any effect on your enjoyment. Isn't it nice to want a certain style of something and be able to look for it? Genres makes this easier.


I could well have heard symphonic black metal, in fact I may well have some on my mp3 player right now - how would I know? More importantly, why do I care? Its music. Surely all that matters is if you like it or not, not what genre its in? Or am I one of these freaky people that doesn't make presumptions about a band or song based on arbitrary things like genre?

Perhaps I should have rephrased. If symphonic black metal means nothing to you, then you've never heard music that you know falls into that category, such as that is what you were told. Meaning, nobody has explained what it is to you.

Again, it's not a matter of caring what genre it is, it's just a way of helping you find music and knowing what to expect. I've found there was certain artists that I didn't like the first time around because I was expecting, or looking for something different.

If genres make you shut out other music and stick to certain styles, it's not the problem of genres, it's your own assumptions.


Yep, I can accept that. I'm not trying to be awkward. If someone says, I saw a great film last night, I say cool, whats it called I might check it out. I don't care what genre it is - what does that matter?

I agree, but I might want to know what it's like. If someone were to tell me it's a horror movie, that lets me know what I'm in for.

mcduck
October 22nd, 2009, 02:33 PM
Yes. Why does it matter what "genre" something is?

Doesn't it help you to know, for example, that a movie is a comedy, or an action movie?

Or that a book is a biography as compared to a scifi novel? Or perhaps a dictionary? :D

Of course you can listen to any music and ignore what genre it is, but finding new music you might like gets a lot easier when you have some way of describing what you are looking for. And most of us lack the knowledge in musical theory to be able to describe the music we like that way.

In the same way you can just randomly pick books from shelves in a bookshop and hope that you like them. But fnding something you actually like gets easier when there's some way to decribe what kind of books they are.

Genres are useful things, at least as long as you don't become too focused on one genre and start ignoring other stuff just because they belong to some other genre than what you usually like.

koshatnik
October 22nd, 2009, 02:39 PM
Ok I guess what I'm trying to say is, I find genres limiting. People do in general tend to just limit themselves to the genres they like. My point is, how do you know you don't like another genre - bands within a genre, which remember are purely arbitrary, vary so much.



But there is probably a 50% chance I will like a symphonic metal band and much less than 1% chance I will like a rap group. Should I really just randomly pick music to listen to irrespective of genre??

Yes, absolutely! Why limit yourself? You've not heard all the rap bands in the world, no one has, so why impose such a punitive limit on yourself? I think thats crazy. Genres lead to pre-judgement and resistance.

Why do that to yourself? :)

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 02:50 PM
Ok I guess what I'm trying to say is, I find genres limiting. People do in general tend to just limit themselves to the genres they like. My point is, how do you know you don't like another genre - bands within a genre, which remember are purely arbitrary, vary so much.

If genre's limit you, that's your own fault.

mcduck
October 22nd, 2009, 02:51 PM
In that case I fully agree with you.

Of course the result is that these days I can only put my music player on shuffle when I'm alone at home. I've yet to meet another person who would actually tolerate (not to even mention enjoying) all the strange music I've found myself liking.

Although I do agree that digital hardcore, followed by old-school rap, then some classic blues and finally siberian throat-signing can be a bit of acquired-taste playlist. :D (on the other hand this far everybody has been able to find at least something they like from my playlist, although they've often never heard of the actual bands/artists before)

koshatnik
October 22nd, 2009, 02:58 PM
If genre's limit you, that's your own fault.

They don't limit me. I said I find them limiting. In other people. Subtle difference. :)



Although I do agree that digital hardcore, followed by old-school rap, then some classic blues and finally siberian throat-signing can be a bit of acquired-taste playlist.

Its just music. :)

mcduck
October 22nd, 2009, 02:59 PM
They don't limit me. I said I find them limiting. In other people. Subtle difference. :)



Its just music. :)

sadly, quite many tend to claim that "that's not even music" after a while.. :D

RiceMonster
October 22nd, 2009, 03:00 PM
They don't limit me. I said I find them limiting. In other people. Subtle difference. :)

My point stands; that's their fault then.

Eisenwinter
October 22nd, 2009, 03:31 PM
Aluminum

Nah just kidding. Maybe Black Metal I guess. Used to be hugely into that stuff. Not really a metal head anymore though.
Same for me.

I voted Black, Death, Doom, and Thrash, though I'm really not a metalhead anymore.

Bölvağur
October 22nd, 2009, 03:41 PM
oh common koshatnik must be trolling or has confirmation bias towards his/her readily structured view of things (that is: being human).

There is no way a person can only listen to 1 genre as every single band is just a mixture of many subgenres, I might like melodies and hate it when bands aren't overly obsessive with them, then I'd like every band that has that as a subgenre and would search for it when going to a record shop (instead of listening to every single record there is in the shop and disliking big portion of it).

Silencer is a suicidal black metal (and many more subgenres but this is enough for this example) while LifeLover is suicidal rock.
Lets say you had a list of 100 bands and 5 minutes to pick 20 bands from these for your radio show which is dedicated to black metal? Or if you got a radio show dedicated to suicidal and depressive music?

Answer 1: suicidal Black metal ← because it is bm
Answer 2: both, they are both suicidal

Now begin to realize this might be useful because every single band in the world has like 10 subgenres attached to them, and there are many many bands. If you aren't into databases then you might not understand that it is easy to find out what subgenres you like (like "humour") and then discover many humour bands from many different genres.


I might draw a picture of it.
And btw what I meant by Moby and Britney Spears is that the music Moby wrote for Britney Spears is disco, but has many subgenres. You wouldnt be able to ask if someone might like the music she's performing if the person cannot hear it, but might if he'd know what subgenres describe it.

Just like I woudnt go to see a film that would be described as Romantic Comedy marketed for girls. And I wouldnt be able to know if I'd like it even if many people would say it was, because Im for Horror Mocumentaries about flowers, and there is no flowers, horror or mocumenatries in the... oh god. this is just too simple you should know it by now.


*added*
you (probably) also like many subgenres so it can be very strange to say anything else than "I like all/diverse music" if you do not know what subgenres those are. If I wouldnt know I like melodic stuff I would be unable to use genres to find what I like, I had to say "I like many different stuff" but it doesnt help the record salesman to recommend something for me.
If I would give him a list of bands I like then he'd be able to guess which subgenres those bands have in common or if there is some special combination of genres you like. Like I love all melodic music except rock, disco and jazz, then it would help him to recommend me something without me spending a whole day there saying "no I dont like it" and scratching all his cds from the rage that builds up when he keeps giving me stuff obviously isnt music.

edin9
October 23rd, 2009, 03:39 AM
oh common koshatnik must be trolling or has confirmation bias towards his/her readily structured view of things (that is: being human).

There is no way a person can only listen to 1 genre as every single band is just a mixture of many subgenres, I might like melodies and hate it when bands aren't overly obsessive with them, then I'd like every band that has that as a subgenre and would search for it when going to a record shop (instead of listening to every single record there is in the shop and disliking big portion of it).

Silencer is a suicidal black metal (and many more subgenres but this is enough for this example) while LifeLover is suicidal rock.
Lets say you had a list of 100 bands and 5 minutes to pick 20 bands from these for your radio show which is dedicated to black metal? Or if you got a radio show dedicated to suicidal and depressive music?

Answer 1: suicidal Black metal ← because it is bm
Answer 2: both, they are both suicidal

Now begin to realize this might be useful because every single band in the world has like 10 subgenres attached to them, and there are many many bands. If you aren't into databases then you might not understand that it is easy to find out what subgenres you like (like &quot;humour&quot;) and then discover many humour bands from many different genres.


I might draw a picture of it.
And btw what I meant by Moby and Britney Spears is that the music Moby wrote for Britney Spears is disco, but has many subgenres. You wouldnt be able to ask if someone might like the music she's performing if the person cannot hear it, but might if he'd know what subgenres describe it.

Just like I woudnt go to see a film that would be described as Romantic Comedy marketed for girls. And I wouldnt be able to know if I'd like it even if many people would say it was, because Im for Horror Mocumentaries about flowers, and there is no flowers, horror or mocumenatries in the... oh god. this is just too simple you should know it by now.


*added*
you (probably) also like many subgenres so it can be very strange to say anything else than &quot;I like all/diverse music&quot; if you do not know what subgenres those are. If I wouldnt know I like melodic stuff I would be unable to use genres to find what I like, I had to say &quot;I like many different stuff&quot; but it doesnt help the record salesman to recommend something for me.
If I would give him a list of bands I like then he'd be able to guess which subgenres those bands have in common or if there is some special combination of genres you like. Like I love all melodic music except rock, disco and jazz, then it would help him to recommend me something without me spending a whole day there saying &quot;no I dont like it&quot; and scratching all his cds from the rage that builds up when he keeps giving me stuff obviously isnt music.

Nice.

SomeGuyDude
October 23rd, 2009, 04:04 AM
Quite disappointed at the number of people saying grind doesn't count...

BrokenKingpin
December 2nd, 2009, 10:34 PM
I am a huge metalhead (only genre of music I really listen to). I voted for Thrash, Death, and Melodeath as these are my favourite genres, but I probably like a band from most metal sub-genres.

MechaMechanism
December 2nd, 2009, 10:40 PM
I remember in my parents basement in the early 90's, I would watch "One" over and over while head banging. Hanger 18 was good to. Liked them all. Go Riki Rachtman!

speedwell68
December 2nd, 2009, 10:41 PM
What happend to pure and simple Heavy Metal?

SuperSonic4
December 2nd, 2009, 10:43 PM
NWOBHM is my favourite


After that classic thrash

speedwell68
December 2nd, 2009, 10:55 PM
NWOBHM is my favourite


After that classic thrash

Yup. Iron Maiden, Diamond Head, Early Metallica and Megadeth, Slayer, Pantera, Wasp to name but a few favourites.

seeker5528
December 2nd, 2009, 11:22 PM
I'd just like to point out that grunge is not a form of metal

That could be argued both ways, yes it may be a stretch to consider some Grunge groups metal by todays standards, but on the other hand, overall, to me anyway, it is the most overtly influenced by classic 70s era heavy metal of any genre in recent history.

The Soundgarden versions of 'Homicidal Suicidal' and 'Into the Void' are not that different than the originals but still so Soundgarden that if you didn't know better you might think they were Soundgarden originals.


You can only have 10 options :(

I guess that answers that question, if progressive metal was in there I would most definitely have voted for that.

Later, Seeker