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infestor
October 21st, 2009, 08:45 PM
i use ubuntu jaunty x64 and firefox from repos...i have been suffering from its slowness for almost years...i also have xp 32 bit installed on my PC on the side...firefox in ubuntu is significantly slower than it is on xp (i disregard flash playing, a major issue for all browser i guess on linux)

i tried epiphany but the user interface is quite different (ctrl+enter doesnt append www...com (http://www...com) and middle click you cannot scroll etc.)

arora refused to work

flock has the same performance as firefox

opera's presto layout engine just sucks

so is there an alternative you guys can suggest me or a "magic" trick for firefox that i had not known?

RiceMonster
October 21st, 2009, 08:46 PM
Chromium.

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 08:47 PM
Chromium.

or Chrome, but otherwise 100% seconded :)

I only really use Firefox and Arora as backup browsers, Chrome and Chromium are for most of my web browsing :)

Dougie187
October 21st, 2009, 08:49 PM
or Chrome, but otherwise 100% seconded :)

I only really use Firefox and Arora as backup browsers, Chrome and Chromium are for most of my web browsing :)

Same with me. Chromium/Chome are both awesome browsers with little-to-no problems.

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 08:52 PM
didnt know that chrome run on linux

jeremyswalker
October 21st, 2009, 08:55 PM
Did you try Swiftfox? Or doing a search for "Firefox tweaks"? Or, as everyone else said, there is always Chrome.

johnboy1313
October 21st, 2009, 09:16 PM
chrome is good, seamonkey is ok too

tjwoosta
October 21st, 2009, 09:24 PM
i tried epiphany but the user interface is quite different (ctrl+enter doesnt append www...com and middle click you cannot scroll etc.)

Really? Thats strange I use crtl+enter all the time in epiphany and it works fine here. Also there is a plugin for autoscroll (the midlle click scroller thing)

Ric_NYC
October 21st, 2009, 09:30 PM
i use ubuntu jaunty x64 and firefox from repos...i have been suffering from its slowness for almost years...


Chromium is the answer for your suffering!
Hallelujah!

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 09:30 PM
ok...how do i install chromium for jaunty x64 natively?

Firestem4
October 21st, 2009, 09:37 PM
Did you try Swiftfox? Or doing a search for "Firefox tweaks"? Or, as everyone else said, there is always Chrome.

I tried swiftfox and I liked it, however it stopped working correctly for me for some reason.

Another great alternative is swiftweasel. It's pretty much like swiftfox except its all open-source (swiftfox has some closed-sourced additions made by the author, take it as you will. I don't have a big problem with it, again it just stopped working for me lol).

Anywho, Both swiftfox and swiftweasel have packages for different CPU architectures, X86, AMD64, i386/i686 and etc.

Swiftfox has a .deb installer and a repo I believe. To install swiftweasel, literally drag the folder from the tarball anywhere you want it to reside and launch it from there.

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 09:40 PM
Man I wish I could remember lol

*hunts around the interwebs... I KNOW I did this fine... o.O

Ok well this will work for Chromium - add these two repos to Synaptic:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main

and then execute this command:


sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0xfbef0d696de1c72ba5a835fe5a9bf3bb4e5e17b5


I'll see if I can work out how to install Chrome as well o.O


EDIT -- God knows man, try adding this repo for Chrome and see if it pops up in Synaptic (it's impossible to find it on the Chrome pages as far as I can tell but this is the repo I have on my machine):

deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb stable main

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 09:52 PM
Man I wish I could remember lol

*hunts around the interwebs... I KNOW I did this fine... o.O

Ok well this will work for Chromium - add these two repos to Synaptic:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main

and then execute this command:


sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0xfbef0d696de1c72ba5a835fe5a9bf3bb4e5e17b5
I'll see if I can work out how to install Chrome as well o.O

i cannot gey the key :( request times out

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 09:59 PM
i cannot gey the key :( request times out

Yeah it's taking ages on here too. I think this is the address: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xFBEF0D696DE1C72BA5A835FE5A9BF3BB4E 5E17B5&op=index

I wish I knew how to just give you a copy of the key from here o.O

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 10:08 PM
yay the Chromium key! I have it!

Here it is:


Public Key Server -- Get ``0x5a9bf3bb4e5e17b5 ''

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: SKS 1.0.10

mI0ESaSPtAEEAK1nJtoDZ0ewpOOf0ET6Vp28LqO9mB4ubWjzXy RSbiha5pCvnnSIU1K+7Gzb
t3r0iUV9eKLUmf8pqfF/9kwsoqFqFSCjp+XjUzXsEChcGBWvyfGdTX8ClFfwNxSVLvGSqm dX
gZhs0F8tQB0lPWHGy3VvEt7wG/VHqpcOYpdNYRqxABEBAAG0IExhdW5jaHBhZCBQUEEgZm9y
IGNocm9taXVtLWRhaWx5iEYEEBECAAYFAknOwV0ACgkQ9rPTxu zZSv0f2QCeLjemEkq5tYjI
xtFpw3F11szeakYAoKsBZcl3Az08cYEd9UNZjQE1j4YtiEYEEB ECAAYFAknS5Z8ACgkQrZOR
ep7Yx+qZ8wCfZYBABDkYO0Ulrivpxn6hARmgLxEAn0SeWaGjVQ 4UE3zpNESguf+t9K1xiLYE
EwECACAFAkmkj7QCGwMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgA AKCRBam/O7Tl4XtV/2BACs
/RTpEWB/NUlluJmp1e6iFoyyfbT+HOD3hg35aQMzbdcmijsAiY9MvIfZ0Y KWyqNUdGpDj5n0
bUNO0IcvKBBkOn5o4CiBsMp4DJHdrgJU4S00nAJK00E8I/yAv+x4C9uOacW3yrzSHs7Hv/vG
6Z1Jh+1JrabK13hdhwOL8+aY6Q==
=9P6G
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

Just bung that in a text file and import it! (I'm sure you knew that :) )

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 10:10 PM
ok i managed to get the key and install chromium *woop*

but one bothersome question more: how can i not see the rss button the addressbar?

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 10:10 PM
ok i managed to get the key and install chromium *woop*

but one bothersome question more: how can i not see the rss button on the addressbar?

also middle click autoscroll doesnt appear!?

NoaHall
October 21st, 2009, 10:12 PM
Or if you use the chromium install script, it'll install the repos + key for you. See code.



#!/bin/bash
unset basehttp
unset latest
cd /tmp/
rm LATEST* > null
export basehttp=http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux
echo "Downloading latest version information..."
wget --quiet $basehttp/LATEST

if [ -f $HOME/chrome-linux/LATEST ]
then
echo "Installed dev version is `cat $HOME/chrome-linux/LATEST`"
else
echo "Cannot get Google Chromium version - not installed?"
fi

echo "Latest Chromium Dev version is `cat /tmp/LATEST`"

if [ $((`cat /tmp/LATEST`)) -eq $((`cat $HOME/chrome-linux/LATEST`)) ]
then
echo " You have the latest version of Chromium Browser"
exit 0
else

read -p "Press any key to continue installation or Ctrl-C to abort"
export latest=`cat /tmp/LATEST`
echo "Downloading desktop icon image..."
wget --quiet http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Chromium_Icon.png
echo "Downloading latest Chromium build..."
wget --no-verbose $basehttp/$latest/chrome-linux.zip && rm -rf $HOME/chrome-linux/

mkdir -p ~/.config/chromium/
mkdir -p ~/.config/chromium/Default/
mkdir -p ~/.config/chromium/Default/User\ Scripts

wget -qO ~/.config/chromium/Default/User\ Scripts/AdSweep.user.js http://www.adsweep.org/AdSweep.user.js

echo "Unpacking new version..."
unzip -o -qq /tmp/chrome-linux.zip -d $HOME/

#echo "Creating plugins folder and linking flashplugin..."
#
#if [ -d $HOME/chrome-linux/plugins ]
# then
# echo "The plugin folder already exists! It will be replaced."
# rm -rf $HOME/chrome-linux/plugins/
# ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ $HOME/chrome-linux/
# else
# mkdir $HOME/chrome-linux/plugins
# ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ $HOME/chrome-linux/
#fi


echo "Creating links..."
if [ -d $HOME/bin/ ]
then
echo "The bin folder already exists!"
else
mkdir $HOME/bin
fi

if [ -d $HOME/bin/icons ]
then
echo "The bin/icons folder already exists!"
else
mkdir $HOME/bin/icons
fi

if [ -L $HOME/bin/chromium-linux ]
then
echo "The /bin/chrome link already exists! it will be replaced."
rm $HOME/bin/chromium-linux > null
ln -s $HOME/chrome-linux/chrome $HOME/bin/chromium-linux
else
ln -s $HOME/chrome-linux/chrome $HOME/bin/chromium-linux
fi

if [ -f $HOME/bin/icons/Chromium_Icon.png ]
then
echo "The icon image already exists!"
rm /tmp/Chromium_Icon.png
else
mv /tmp/Chromium_Icon.png $HOME/bin/icons/
fi

echo "Creating menu link"

echo -e "#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open\n
[Desktop Entry]\r
Encoding=UTF-8\r
Version=1.0\r
Name=Chromium Linux\r
Comment=Browse the WWW\r
Type=Application\r
Exec="`echo $HOME`/chrome-linux/chrome --enable-plugins --enable-user-scripts"\r
Terminal=false\r
Categories=Network\r
Name[en_US]=Chromium Browser\r
Comment[en_US]=Browse the WWW\r
Icon[en_US]="`echo $HOME`/bin/icons/Chromium_Icon.png"\r
Icon="`echo $HOME`/bin/icons/Chromium_Icon.png"" > $HOME/.local/share/applications/chromium-linux.desktop
mv /tmp/LATEST $HOME/chrome-linux/
rm /tmp/chrome-linux.zip
echo "Installation/Upgrade complete"
#fi
exit 0
fi

Forums won't let me upload the file, so just copy and paste that into a file, then chmod +x, then run it.

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 10:13 PM
ok i managed to get the key and install chromium *woop*

but one bothersome question more: how can i not see the rss button the addressbar?

I dunno, to be honest I never really use RSS.

I mean, there is a possibility that some things don't work yet on Chromium... you could always use FF for that or find a link to it on the page? o.O

Ant.
October 21st, 2009, 10:13 PM
Like suggested a couple of times, SwiftFox is a brilliant browser, really made a noticeable difference on my old laptop with an AMD CPU. I'm gonna have to check out Chromium, Chrome really impressed me when I was on XP temporarily.

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 10:14 PM
I dunno, to be honest I never really use RSS.

I mean, there is a possibility that some things don't work yet on Chromium... you could always use FF for that or find a link to it on the page? o.O

wow...such vital thing as RSS is not implemented on chromium yet? baah, i am surprised.

Grifulkin
October 21st, 2009, 10:18 PM
wow...such vital thing as RSS is not implemented on chromium yet? baah, i am surprised.

I would hardly call RSS vital.

hoppipolla
October 21st, 2009, 10:43 PM
Like suggested a couple of times, SwiftFox is a brilliant browser, really made a noticeable difference on my old laptop with an AMD CPU. I'm gonna have to check out Chromium, Chrome really impressed me when I was on XP temporarily.

lol I know, I have just personally lost SO much interest in Firefox and Mozilla ._.

Chrome, Arora and Webkit in general have kinda... showcased to me how much better browsers can be particularly on Linux, and until I see things like improved performance from Firefox particularly in Linux, I will be siding with alternatives I'm afraid! :)

infestor
October 21st, 2009, 11:22 PM
the performance of the chromium is fantastic...just what i was looking for...but...(forget the rss)...still no smooth scrolling? i mean this is like an alpha release...but hey, i will bear it since the performance tops all the other small stuff (like mouse gestures, aww i so much miss it)

Ric_NYC
October 21st, 2009, 11:35 PM
the performance of the chromium is fantastic...just what i was looking for...but...(forget the rss)...still no smooth scrolling? i mean this is like an alpha release...but hey, i will bear it since the performance tops all the other small stuff (like mouse gestures, aww i so much miss it)

Try this.

http://chromium.exxe.ath.cx/smoothscroll/

Niko Johnson
October 21st, 2009, 11:40 PM
I like opera... its sleak, stable and sexy just like linux! -- nixie pixle

keiichidono
October 22nd, 2009, 12:48 AM
the performance of the chromium is fantastic...just what i was looking for...but...(forget the rss)...still no smooth scrolling? i mean this is like an alpha release...but hey, i will bear it since the performance tops all the other small stuff (like mouse gestures, aww i so much miss it)

Smooth scrolling is there, no autoscrolling, no RSS. Flash/java should work.

Mr. Picklesworth
October 22nd, 2009, 12:52 AM
Yup, Chromium is beautiful. For those various extensions you can't live without, check out http://www.chromeextensions.org/ . (For example, if you really want Adblock, although personally I find it's redundant - and a bit unfair to use - when the browser is fast enough that the ads have no impact).

I've been able to completely drop Firefox at this point. It's a really neat browser :)

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 02:38 AM
Chromium is fast, but that's not enough, specially considering Firefox 3.6a1 is almost as fast. Besides, Firefox can be optimized (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567).

Chromium cannot deliver the same experience and level of customization as Firefox. If you use your browser just to read blogs, then it's perfectly fine. But if you use your browser as a productivity tool, then Firefox is unbeatable.

Mr. Picklesworth
October 22nd, 2009, 02:41 AM
Chromium cannot deliver the same experience and level of customization as Firefox.

Okay, open up Chromium. Head to chrome:extensions. Hey, look at that!
Now, check out chromeextensions.org, Google "chrome extension", and look at Feedly (which has a currently private test version for Chrome that works very well).

It can deliver precisely the level of customization, although granted the community of add-on developers is a lot smaller.

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 02:46 AM
It can deliver precisely the level of customization, although granted the community of add-on developers is a lot smaller.

Chrome extensions API is in it's infancy and the community of add-ons developers is just a fraction of Firefox. I'm sure Chrome will compete with Firefox in this field too, but not now.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 10:02 AM
Chrome extensions API is in it's infancy and the community of add-ons developers is just a fraction of Firefox. I'm sure Chrome will compete with Firefox in this field too, but not now.

Yeah well said there - I was about to point out that even if this is one area where Chrome falls behind a little, it is about the ONLY area at present and it's being resolved as we speak!

Until I saw 4.0 i would have said that Mozilla will fall behind for sure in this one, but I think it depends what they pull out their hats for that release.

cb951303
October 22nd, 2009, 12:32 PM
I'm one of the people that left FF for Chromium. Do I miss firefox addons? Yes, but chromium makes up for it in the speed and -dare I say it- stability department.

Tibuda
October 22nd, 2009, 12:37 PM
Man I wish I could remember lol

*hunts around the interwebs... I KNOW I did this fine... o.O

Ok well this will work for Chromium - add these two repos to Synaptic:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main

and then execute this command:


sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0xfbef0d696de1c72ba5a835fe5a9bf3bb4e5e17b5


I'll see if I can work out how to install Chrome as well o.O


EDIT -- God knows man, try adding this repo for Chrome and see if it pops up in Synaptic (it's impossible to find it on the Chrome pages as far as I can tell but this is the repo I have on my machine):

deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb stable main

If you are using karmic, you can type ppa:chromium-daily in synaptyc instead of deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main and it will already grab the key for you. This is a step on making it easier, but I still hope they implement a "ppaurl" thing like apturls.

Ric_NYC
October 22nd, 2009, 07:50 PM
Chromium is a fresh new look on Ubuntu.
Gnome and FF have that "90's look".

froggyswamp
October 22nd, 2009, 08:03 PM
Chromium is a fresh new look on Ubuntu.
Gnome and FF have that "90's look".
+1
Google also doesn't say "speed doesn't really matter nor startup time" and doesn't preach for displaying a menu by default despite rarely being used. I hate Google but a tip of my hat for that.

infestor
October 22nd, 2009, 08:07 PM
if i could get auto-scroll, mouse gestures and rss working on chromium i would really be blissful

Tibuda
October 22nd, 2009, 08:09 PM
if i could get auto-scroll, mouse gestures and rss working on chromium i would really be blissful

For mouse gestures, install Easystroke. You'll be able to bind gestures to hotkeys in any application (or global). For RSS, you could try Google Reader.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 08:12 PM
sorry to act ignorant, but what IS smooth scrolling? Is it when it smooths out the juddering of the mouse wheel?

Tibuda
October 22nd, 2009, 08:20 PM
Chrome extensions API is in it's infancy and the community of add-ons developers is just a fraction of Firefox. I'm sure Chrome will compete with Firefox in this field too, but not now.

This has the same meaning as "Linux community of application developers is just a fraction of Windows. I'm sure Linux will compete with Windows in this field too, but not now."

Still you are "loving linux".

Jim_in_Omaha
October 22nd, 2009, 08:20 PM
Chromium is fast, but that's not enough, specially considering Firefox 3.6a1 is almost as fast. Besides, Firefox can be optimized (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567).

Chromium cannot deliver the same experience and level of customization as Firefox. If you use your browser just to read blogs, then it's perfectly fine. But if you use your browser as a productivity tool, then Firefox is unbeatable.

I know that 3.5.3 is faster than the standard Ubuntu Firefox distro version (3.0 ??) I did not know there was a 3.6a1. On the WinXP side for my work laptop upgrading to 3.5.3 made a night and day difference in speed. (old but reliable T30 IBM)

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 08:25 PM
I know that 3.5.3 is faster than the standard Ubuntu Firefox distro version (3.0 ??) I did not know there was a 3.6a1. On the WinXP side for my work laptop upgrading to 3.5.3 made a night and day difference in speed. (old but reliable T30 IBM)

I do still find Firefox quite slow. But then I'm on the 3.5....something :) heh

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 08:45 PM
I did not know there was a 3.6a1.

It's an alpha version, available for testing from Mozilla FTP site. The difference is amazing, specially when playing flash videos.

There is also a 3.7something.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 09:38 PM
It's an alpha version, available for testing from Mozilla FTP site. The difference is amazing, specially when playing flash videos.

There is also a 3.7something.

Thing is though it has to be said that people say this about EVERY new Firefox release lol

I hope that now they start to pick up their game now they have Chrome and a handful of other new webkit-based browsers to compete with! :)

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 10:02 PM
Thing is though it has to be said that people say this about EVERY new Firefox release lol

Yep, but I have benchmark data to prove it ;)

http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=124167&stc=1&d=1249840668

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 10:25 PM
Yep, but I have benchmark data to prove it ;)

http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=124167&stc=1&d=1249840668

I wish I knew what that meant lol

Is higher better or worse? xD

I'll get the new Firefox when it comes out, and I guess it would be quite nice to see Mozilla still in the game :)

For now though, I'm very much on Chrome!

infestor
October 22nd, 2009, 11:05 PM
imho webkit kicks ***...best layout engine ever (so far)...

Onyros
October 22nd, 2009, 11:16 PM
I had been using Opera as my main browser up until 9.64. Ever since upgrading to Opera 10, it has become slow, problematic, buggy. I tried Chromium out and it has become my primary browser, alongside uzbl (which is also webkit based).

Haven't looked back, and even though I still keep Opera and Firefox installed, in terms of speed they're not even comparable to the two I'm using mostly now,

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 11:22 PM
I wish I knew what that meant lol

Is higher better or worse?

Higher is better. From left to right you see the improvement for each browser since the release of Jaunty until the middle of August. As you can see I started with 200 points and ended with 1100. The test is Peacekeeper (http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action) benchmark.

hoppipolla
October 22nd, 2009, 11:31 PM
Higher is better. From left to right you see the improvement for each browser since the release of Jaunty until the middle of August. As you can see I started with 200 points and ended with 1100. The test is Peacekeeper (http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action) benchmark.

But isn't Chromium still much higher?

I mean I know they don't have to actually match or beat Chromium to make Firefox a valid choice, but it would be cool if they got close! Chrome is like lightning!

lovinglinux
October 22nd, 2009, 11:36 PM
But isn't Chromium still much higher?

I mean I know they don't have to actually match or beat Chromium to make Firefox a valid choice, but it would be cool if they got close! Chrome is like lightning!

Yep, it is. But the difference is not dramatic. I think Firefox will get there, specially considering Chromium is not a finished product.

tom66
October 22nd, 2009, 11:36 PM
Chromium.

Super-fast (1 second opening time and also fast with web pages) and it hasn't crashed once.

cb951303
October 23rd, 2009, 08:09 AM
Yep, it is. But the difference is not dramatic. I think Firefox will get there, specially considering Chromium is not a finished product.

You call that not dramatic?

Chromium not being finished only means that the gap will widen with time as it gets close to be a finished product :)

lovinglinux
October 23rd, 2009, 08:46 AM
You call that not dramatic?

Yes, is not that dramatic when considering what you can perceive visually. You have to try 3.6.a1 and see for yourself.


Chromium not being finished only means that the gap will widen with time as it gets close to be a finished product :)

Not necessarily. The vanilla Firefox works much faster than my current profile, so I believe once Chromium finishes adding the missing features, the performance will drop.

cb951303
October 23rd, 2009, 09:03 AM
Yes, is not that dramatic when considering what you can perceive visually. You have to try 3.6.a1 and see for yourself.

I just did and I'm not convinced at all.

Gecko will surely progress and may even be on par with WebKit in the future but IMHO the XUL interface will always the bottleneck. It's very sluggish, it looks horrible on linux and it's not even necessary considering all the cross-platform GUI toolkits that we have.

Have you tried chromium? I really don't understand how one can't see the difference "visually" between 3.6 and chomium 4.x.

Anyway, OP is asking for a FF alternative and I don't think FF 3.6 counts :)

lovinglinux
October 23rd, 2009, 09:06 AM
I just did and I'm not convinced at all.

Gecko will surely progress and may even be on par with WebKit in the future but IMHO the XUL interface will always the bottleneck. It's very sluggish, it looks horrible on linux and it's not even necessary considering all the cros-platform GUI toolkits that we have.

Have you tried chromium? I really don't understand how one can't see the difference "visually" between 3.6 and chomium 4.x.

Anyway, OP is asking for a FF alternative and I don't think FF 3.6 counts :)

Well, I forgot to mention my version of 3.6.a1 was compiled from source with PGO and processor optimization flags. Ooops, sorry :oops:

3rdalbum
October 23rd, 2009, 11:18 AM
Opera is very good; I've been running Opera 10 since its first beta. On my netbook with a slow SSD, Opera is the only browser that was tolerably fast and never went grey due to excessive I/O.

I also like the screenshot tabs. They sound like a bit of a gimmick at first, but then if you have 20 tabs open you can quickly see which ones are Ubuntu Forums and which are OSnews. Opera Link is also very handy to keep my bookmarks and speed dial synchronised between netbook, desktop, and server (and mobile phone, if I had one).

And Opera Turbo helps speed up things when I'm on the mobile broadband.

If Facebook worked reliably with Opera, I'd simply never open Firefox. Hopefully the Facebook improvements should be coming to Opera soon.

hoppipolla
October 23rd, 2009, 11:53 AM
Well, I forgot to mention my version of 3.6.a1 was compiled from source with PGO and processor optimization flags. Ooops, sorry :oops:

This is silly, of course Firefox will perform better if you do stuff like that, that is seriously not a sign of a good browser ._.

Mozilla need to pick up their game for 4 or they will lose quite a few people, particularly on Linux.

HappinessNow
October 23rd, 2009, 11:55 AM
Chromium/ChomeBoth actually better then Firefox.

kvarley
October 23rd, 2009, 12:02 PM
Swiftfox / Swiftweasel

lovinglinux
October 23rd, 2009, 12:06 PM
Mozilla need to pick up their game for 4 or they will lose quite a few people, particularly on Linux.

I agree on that. But I believe they will. They have been optimizing Firefox considerably lately. I can't imagine myself going back to 3.0.

hoppipolla
October 23rd, 2009, 12:11 PM
I agree on that. But I believe they will. They have been optimizing Firefox considerably lately. I can't imagine myself going back to 3.0.

I am trying to keep an open mind. I mean there's no point in me after years of supporting Firefox and Mozilla suddenly jumping ship just because Google have released what I perceive to be a good browser. I'll try not to take sides too passionately on this one lol ^_^

infestor
October 27th, 2009, 08:01 PM
is there a page where i can see the changelog of chromium? it really updates a lot and so far i did not manage to find the changelog.

alfplayer
October 28th, 2009, 09:41 PM
is there a page where i can see the changelog of chromium? it really updates a lot and so far i did not manage to find the changelog.

http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/

infestor
October 30th, 2009, 07:48 PM
just upgraded to karmic...firefox 3.5 seems to catch the speed :) (at last!)

Nixie Pixel
December 6th, 2009, 04:16 AM
I like opera... its sleak, stable and sexy just like linux! -- nixie pixle
I never said that about Opera! But I did about Linux.

:)

Dark Aspect
December 6th, 2009, 04:32 AM
i use ubuntu jaunty x64 and firefox from repos...i have been suffering from its slowness for almost years...i also have xp 32 bit installed on my PC on the side...firefox in ubuntu is significantly slower than it is on xp (i disregard flash playing, a major issue for all browser i guess on linux)

i tried epiphany but the user interface is quite different (ctrl+enter doesnt append www...com (http://www...com) and middle click you cannot scroll etc.)

arora refused to work

flock has the same performance as firefox

opera's presto layout engine just sucks

so is there an alternative you guys can suggest me or a "magic" trick for firefox that i had not known?

SeaMonkey (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/) is a light weight version of Firefox.

crimesaucer
December 6th, 2009, 04:51 AM
EDITED after installing the official Google Chrome beta:


Well, after having a really bad experience with a buggy Chromium 64 that took 3 hours to build from source, I decide to try the new official Google Chrome and all I have to say is that it's totally stable and works very nicely. It's very fast, but I still prefer firefox, and I don't like the tracking features of Chrome (I would prefer something like Iron).