On a scale of 10, what would you rate my rig? (large pics warning! NO 56kb)

[OmegaAI]

Oh and this is what I use to have (not the above pics are the latest):

http://www.overclock.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG00071.jpg


Below is what I have now:

[Excedio]

Hard to get a real good idea. I cannot tell where one picture ends and the next one begins. Kinda all looks like a Black and Blue mess.... :(

[OmegaAI]

Fixed.

[Excedio]

Edit: User Corrected

[Excedio]

Edit: User Corrected

[Excedio]

I like it. 8/10. Always room for improvement and mine is a 9 ;-)

[hoppipolla]

It reminds me of the first modded pc I put together - it used to light up my whole room blue!

It's cool though - and I bet it's way more powerful than my old attempts xD

Keep it up man, and yeah I'd give it an 8 (but this is from the man who thought giving his pc seven colours and TEN fans was a cool thing to do a few years ago hehe ^_^ )

[Excedio]

10 fans!

[hoppipolla]

10 fans!

I know! lol

It sounded like a jet plane taking off and illuminated my room like a disco ball! xD

The 10 fans were mostly just funny - the PSU had 4, CPU had 1, Northbridge had 1, graphics card had 1, side window had one, I think the back of the machine had one... and there must have been one other...

I think it was suspended in the case or something xD

[Excedio]

lol...that's pretty awesome :-D

[The Real Dave]

I never did get the whole put lights in a PC case thing....than again, I never cared much for looks, most of my computers are fairly fugly, but they run well. My main rig is in my sig, and stays damn cold :) Went a bit overboard on cooling. Its loud, but its cold, things run better that way I find. I have however, always spraypainted added drives to match whatever their going into. Really annoys me seeing a black drive in a white case or vice versa :)

As for your rig, it looks good, and I'm sure it'll run well :) Well done :)

[OmegaAI]

My rig is using an Antec 300 (which has only room for 5 fans). Right now I have:

2 in front - 74CFM each
1 rear - 110CFM
1 top - 96CFM (140mm)
1 bottom (It didn't come with a bottom one, I put it there) - ~ 60CFM
2 PCI slot fans 42CFM each

1 133CFM Ultrakaze on my heat sink

1 on my GTX260

1 on my PSU (TX650W)

I can put a side panel fan on it if I want to (but I will not as it messes up my air flow).

So right now I got the following air flow through my case:

208CFM in
310CFM out - give or take 20CFM or so

[sloggerkhan]

not my kind of rig... seems expensive and not power or performance efficient in consequence. Not to mention too illuminated.

Of course I am bang-for-buck obsessive.

[handy]

not my kind of rig... seems expensive and not power or performance efficient in consequence. Not to mention too illuminated.

Of course I am bang-for-buck obsessive.

I agree.

It looks like another box that uses more electricity than it needs to (with all of the negative environmental effects that go with that, apart from financial cost to whoever is paying the bill).

The lights are just another distraction that makes life harder for our eyes.

In the end it is just another computer that expresses the creativity born of youthful enthusiasm. ;)

[OmegaAI]

Actually my rig draws about 510W which is not that bad. I do not run it all the time and I mostly use this for gaming and Lan Parties. Some of my friends are still rockin' an 8800GTX. When I am playing Crysis, my rig destroys them. Besides, for what I got, it is not that bad. Rig cost me about 900 bucks (not kidding) for all the mods (which I did myself) and I have had it since Jan of this year.

[edin9]

Actually my rig draws about 510W which is not that bad. I do not run it all the time and I mostly use this for gaming and Lan Parties. Some of my friends are still rockin' an 8800GTX. When I am playing Crysis, my rig destroys them. Besides, for what I got, it is not that bad. Rig cost me about 900 bucks (not kidding) for all the mods (which I did myself) and I have had it since Jan of this year.

Hey stop hating on the 8800GTX! I have that in SLI and it would destroy your 260 :P

[OmegaAI]

hey, The 8800GTX are great cards. My card though is a bit newer. I am saying that they are rocking singles, not SLI. May butt would be handed to me on a silver platter if that were the case. Here in the next few months, I will be upgrading to 2 5770s and a UD3P (which is my board but has crossfire instead of a single PCIe slot).

If I had a rig with 3 8800GTXs in it, I would be folding@home with them.

[edin9]

hey, The 8800GTX are great cards. My card though is a bit newer. I am saying that they are rocking singles, not SLI. May butt would be handed to me on a silver platter if that were the case. Here in the next few months, I will be upgrading to 2 5770s and a UD3P (which is my board but has crossfire instead of a single PCIe slot).

If I had a rig with 3 8800GTXs in it, I would be folding@home with them.

ATi Crossfire and Linux? Brave :D

[sloggerkhan]

Actually my rig draws about 510W which is not that bad. I do not run it all the time and I mostly use this for gaming and Lan Parties. Some of my friends are still rockin' an 8800GTX. When I am playing Crysis, my rig destroys them. Besides, for what I got, it is not that bad. Rig cost me about 900 bucks (not kidding) for all the mods (which I did myself) and I have had it since Jan of this year.

See, to me that sounds bad. My highest drawing power supply is only rated to 500 or 550 Watts and I doubt the computer even draws 2/3rds of that. (Best I can calc, it probably draws 300ish at peak, would have to double check.)

[OmegaAI]

I am a CPU (Computer Power User). I love the power and I use it all! Either it is for gaming, video editing (I do it from time to time), folding with both my CPU and GPU, or just browsing the web. Not matter what I love the power. I also like to be mostly furture proof. That is why I have a quad and a GTX260. That is also why I will be upgrading to 2 5770s (which actually a single one draws about 20% less power than my GTX260) and will give me close to a 5870 in graphics processing power. They also overclock really well too!

But other than that, we all have our own preferences and each of us have something that we thing is satisfactory. But with me, I am never satisfied for long. Right now I am happy with my rig, but once I grab my 5770s, I will be jubilant!

[Niko Johnson]

solid 8, and i have high standards! :)

[OmegaAI]

Nice. <.< personally I would give myself an 8.5

[pwnst*r]

you might want to edit that topic title. there's nothing 56k can't handle in this thread.

[cascade9]

If thats the 'fixed' pics, I'm glad I didnt look before.

'No 56K', :lol: I'm still frsh enough off dialup to still think 'what? your pics arent _that_ big!'


ATi Crossfire and Linux? Brave :D

LOL, no, Crossfire is Ati cards only. Thats nVidia SLI (all hail 3dfx)

[handy]

I'm not being personally judgemental with regard to the excessive power usage.

I am somewhat self educated on the topic though. I am old enough (over 50) to know that I will continue to see an escalation of energy prices due to various environmental/population pressures as time goes by. Though I will be dead long before most of you guys should be.

You will unfortunately suffer from the accumulated negative effects of the generations that came before you. You have been born into the consumer paradigm that I'm quite sure you will also see die in your lifetime, I may see that happen in mine (with any luck).

So, the rating of this rig can move into areas of complexity/responsibility that are yet to impress on many people's minds, though I'm quite sure that it is inevitable that this complexity & responsibility will unfortunately play huge roles in all of humanities future.

[Edit:] I certainly don't expect much in the way of collaboration as far as my above comments go, most especially from the young people, who ironically are the ones that will be most affected by the results of diminished natural resources & the other effects of over-consumption.

Consumption that their forbears are certainly primarily most responsible for; though it is critically important for everyone to understand that they don't stand alone in this one. No one alive, can escape this problem.

I wish I could make your long term future better, that's for sure. The only way I could do it would be to change the past. :(

[hoppipolla]

So, am I right in saying a pc requiring a steady 300w is using as much electricity as like... 5 old school 60w bulbs?

Regardless, man I dread to think what my 10-fan, 7-colour machine must have been sapping lol Kept the airflow in the room going anyway xD

[Exodist]

@ Omega, not bad. You would do great to get some neon colored wire/pull ties. You can commonly find cheep ones at Autozone or Walmart.

Here is my system.
http://picasaweb.google.com/exodist2009/MyPCOct2009#

[OmegaAI]

So, am I right in saying a pc requiring a steady 300w is using as much electricity as like... 5 old school 60w bulbs?

Regardless, man I dread to think what my 10-fan, 7-colour machine must have been sapping lol Kept the airflow in the room going anyway xD

Um dude, fans do not draw much power unless they are deltas (30W 5A monsters! 120x38mm and push 252CFM @ 4000RPM)

My rig's fans and lights draw about 30W max. And 520W or so is load. Idle I do about 250-285.


@ Omega, not bad. You would do great to get some neon colored wire/pull ties. You can commonly find cheep ones at Autozone or Walmart.

Here is my system.
http://picasaweb.google.com/exodist2009/MyPCOct2009#
Not bad but i would have tried to hide more of the wires. I personally do not like it. But other than that it is very clean and I like the UV.

Personally I like it simple and clean. Here later this month I will be sleeving my SATA cables!

[PurposeOfReason]

For an amateur it's not too bad. Nothing to great. Just another rig with parts thrown in and some lights. That isn't to say that it's not a good build, just that it's a dime a dozen.

Hardware is decent, not the most power efficient. Cabling is pretty good. Case choice is poor.

[surfed]

for an amateur it's not too bad. Nothing to great. Just another rig with parts thrown in and some lights. That isn't to say that it's not a good build, just that it's a dime a dozen.

Hardware is decent, not the most power efficient. Cabling is pretty good. Case choice is poor.

+1

[renkinjutsu]

@ Omega, not bad. You would do great to get some neon colored wire/pull ties. You can commonly find cheep ones at Autozone or Walmart.

Here is my system.
http://picasaweb.google.com/exodist2009/MyPCOct2009#

i'm in love, with your keyboard. :sad:

[konqueror7]

9 because of the picture of the baby on the desk...haha...minus 1point for a little messy cables... =)

[edin9]

If thats the 'fixed' pics, I'm glad I didnt look before.

'No 56K', :lol: I'm still frsh enough off dialup to still think 'what? your pics arent _that_ big!'



LOL, no, Crossfire is Ati cards only. Thats nVidia SLI (all hail 3dfx)

Ummm I know that. lol

[hoppipolla]

@ Omega, not bad. You would do great to get some neon colored wire/pull ties. You can commonly find cheep ones at Autozone or Walmart.

Here is my system.
http://picasaweb.google.com/exodist2009/MyPCOct2009#

I think that looks cool!

My pc looks so simple and lame-*** these days - it's just a small black micro ATX case that sits rather humbly underneath my desk! I even have one of those mini PSUs because the whole case is kinda slim.

I dunno, I just found that for what I want to do with a pc it's fairly adequate, and although I love modded pcs and side windows and that stuff I just don't really do it anymore.

One time though me and my m8 bought plastic plants (ferns and hanging leaves) and decorated the entire inside of his glowing green pc like a jungle! The lighting in there was really bright as well so the whole thing looked awesome! TERRIBLE for airflow, but it was only a bit of fun :)

[gn2]

It's a desktop so 1 out of ten is the maximum I can give.

(Eight point deduction for not being a laptop)

[hoppipolla]

It's a desktop so 1 out of ten is the maximum I can give.

(Eight point deduction for not being a laptop)

erm... lol

[handy]

Has anyone here ever had to have a note/netbook serviced?

In my country you look at $125-+/hr, & that is usually charged for any part hour that follows!

The average computer tech' (as can the owner if they are that way inclined) can increase the RAM to max & can replace the HDD.

Usually replacing the optical or floppy (if it exists) drive(s), is beyond the owners realm of confidence.

For repairs that go beyond the above, you need access to OEM equipment, which is NOT easy for unofficial repairers of such machines to acquire, it is usually impossible unless the machine is old & you can get second hand parts somewhere.

Being able to source the (new) motherboard, plugin sound-card/modem or what have you is beyond most otherwise perfectly capable computer tech's.

If a notebook or a netbook looses its screen, the machine is a write off. If the hinges on the case fail, this also usually means that much of the case needs replacing, (which due to the OEM prices) that machine is also a write off.

Who insures their note/netbook computers against these common failures?

Because this hardware is very specialised, the manufacturers keep it in house, & the proprietary controlled prices make the maintenance of this type of specialised technology very expensive.

Just the usual bi/triannual replacement of batteries is enough of a deterrent for many who have been bitten in the past by these so called wonderfully convenient mobile devices.

In my opinion, unless a person really needs a mobile computer such as a notebook or a netbook, they are well advised to stay right away from the things.

I do appreciate that there are those amongst us that themselves have, or their parents have, a large enough disposable income to not give a thought to the costs of running these machines, let alone the environmental costs due to their basic disposable nature when compared to a solidly built, easily upgradeable/repairable desktop system.

That's life... :)

[hoppipolla]

Yeah I mean I don't dislike laptops, but I think both they and desktops have their use and their place :)

[handy]

I totally agree.

It is the disproportionate costs of ownership that need to be appreciated by those contemplating future purchase I think.

Though as stated previously, those who's parents buy the things for them, even when they don't really need them probably won't give two hoots.

The combination of fashion accessories, youth & human nature, makes a LOT of profit for the corporations...

Human nature... :)

[cascade9]

handy- I agree on your 'power consumption' issue, but as far as laptops go, I wouldnt blame 'youth' that much (and no, I'm not that young). I know a lot of people who have moved from desktops to laptops that just sit on the same desk, and never get taken anywhere. Not even out for dinner. Poor things.

I even know a dutch professional person who has 1.5TB worth of files they share on p2p (from USB drives) that got a laptop 'because theres less cables and I will get some space on my desktop back'. Folly. It would have been cheaper and easier to get a desktop with enough hdd space to fit all those files and just put the USB drives into a cupboard and pull them out once ever now and again for backups.

[handy]

handy- I agree on your 'power consumption' issue, but as far as laptops go, I wouldnt blame 'youth' that much (and no, I'm not that young). I know a lot of people who have moved from desktops to laptops that just sit on the same desk, and never get taken anywhere. Not even out for dinner. Poor things.

:lolflag: Like me!

I empathise with the poor things... :)



I even know a dutch professional person who has 1.5TB worth of files they share on p2p (from USB drives) that got a laptop 'because theres less cables and I will get some space on my desktop back'. Folly. It would have been cheaper and easier to get a desktop with enough hdd space to fit all those files and just put the USB drives into a cupboard and pull them out once ever now and again for backups.

I agree, there are certainly other alternatives...

Though I'm still wishing that someone would take me out to dinner... :)

[hoppipolla]

Though I'm still wishing that someone would take me out to dinner... :)

xD

... darn those laptops getting ALL the attention!

[pwnst*r]

It's a desktop so 1 out of ten is the maximum I can give.

(Eight point deduction for not being a laptop)

hahahaha

[openfly]

3

[JugglinPhil]

I'd say about 5, it looks okay but it's probably quite a waste of energy. Personally I simply couldn't be bothered putting all the work in it..

[JillSwift]

Over nine*.








*thousand!!!

[kevdog]

Only a 650W power supply?? Come on -- quit being green and crank up the power! Need some SLI cards or something to waste more juice!

[LowSky]

I'd say about 5, it looks okay but it's probably quite a waste of energy. Personally I simply couldn't be bothered putting all the work in it..

Those lights put out very little energy. The CPU and Graphic card are the real energy hogs.


I think the wire job is pretty good, I'm not a fan of the lights or you choice in cases but I get that people like to show off their work. I give it a 6!
And here is why in the picture below the fan on the side of the case looks out of place.
http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=132568&d=1256079357

The PCI slot fans are loud and offer little in terms of air movement, I assume you have higher temperatures without them, but an easier fix would be better 120mm case fans and changing the pressure either negatively or positively. In other words put a higher speed fan up front to push more cool air into he case or more powerful rear fans to push hot air out.

[gn2]

@Handy, it's a popular misconception that laptops are difficult to work on and that many parts cannot be replaced at home.

With no formal training whatsoever I have stripped and repaired many laptops of varying sizes and makes.

I would rather replace a laptop's hard drive and RAM than a desktop's, it's normally a far easier and quicker job.

[hoppipolla]

I would rather replace a laptop's hard drive and RAM than a desktop's, it's normally a far easier and quicker job.

and what about the other components? xD

and that certainly doesn't apply to all laptops I can assure you... O.O


Only a 650W power supply?? Come on -- quit being green and crank up the power! Need some SLI cards or something to waste more juice!

exactly man! xD

To be honest, I am very "green" and try to make ethical choices etc, but it's not fair when people use things like that as basically excuses to rain on someone's parade ._.

Building computers is fun, and can often be art! :)

[OmegaAI]

Thank you. But seriously guys, this rig for what it is is not bad. Sure it is power hungry but it is no where near as bad as some other rigs. On overclock.net, there are guys running Tri-SLI GTX285s with a Core i7 @ 4.5GHz. That rig requires a 1200W PSU!!!! Besides I put this much work into my rig for looks but also for functionality. When you have loads of cables cluttered inside of a PC, it blocks air flow which reduces heat dissipation. Heat is bad inside of a PC so why not make it clean and LOOK good at the same time?

[hoppipolla]

Thank you. But seriously guys, this rig for what it is is not bad. Sure it is power hungry but it is no where near as bad as some other rigs. On overclock.net, there are guys running Tri-SLI GTX285s with a Core i7 @ 4.5GHz. That rig requires a 1200W PSU!!!! Besides I put this much work into my rig for looks but also for functionality. When you have loads of cables cluttered inside of a PC, it blocks air flow which reduces heat dissipation. Heat is bad inside of a PC so why not make it clean and LOOK good at the same time?

I agree :)

Besides man don't worry, when you post things on the net you will ALWAYS get a broad mix of good and bad comments based on all kinds of different reasons! I think overall people averaged it at about a 7 sometimes an 8 :)

It looks like a cool machine to me ^_^

[konqueror7]

Thank you. But seriously guys, this rig for what it is is not bad. Sure it is power hungry but it is no where near as bad as some other rigs. On overclock.net, there are guys running Tri-SLI GTX285s with a Core i7 @ 4.5GHz. That rig requires a 1200W PSU!!!! Besides I put this much work into my rig for looks but also for functionality. When you have loads of cables cluttered inside of a PC, it blocks air flow which reduces heat dissipation. Heat is bad inside of a PC so why not make it clean and LOOK good at the same time?

i can only imagine if having that kind of hardware and would use it playing minesweeper or solitaire!!! damn! :guitar:

[maflynn]

500 watts holy crap. I think my laptop draws only 60watts.

[cascade9]

and what about the other components? xD

and that certainly doesn't apply to all laptops I can assure you... O.O

exactly man! xD

To be honest, I am very "green" and try to make ethical choices etc, but it's not fair when people use things like that as basically excuses to rain on someone's parade ._.

Building computers is fun, and can often be art! :)

Agreed on the laptops, some of them are a right pain to work on.

Building computers can be fun, but IMO...a couple of lights in the case dont make it art. Maybe this is closer to art?

http://pcdb.overclockers.com.au/view.php?name=Rameses23&page=pics

Dont take me the wrong, way, if you want lights in your case, go ahead! Maybe you could find something, anything, to put on the monitor so that you look at it not the case though?

[PurposeOfReason]

i can only imagine if having that kind of hardware and would use it playing minesweeper or solitaire!!! damn! :guitar:
You do realize some people use their computers, right?

I know some guys on the xtreme systems forums that drop +$2000 on rigs to just fold 24/7 because they have the money and believe in it. It is not your concern what other people have or do with what they have.

[hoppipolla]

Agreed on the laptops, some of them are a right pain to work on.

Building computers can be fun, but IMO...a couple of lights in the case dont make it art. Maybe this is closer to art?

http://pcdb.overclockers.com.au/view.php?name=Rameses23&page=pics

Dont take me the wrong, way, if you want lights in your case, go ahead! Maybe you could find something, anything, to put on the monitor so that you look at it not the case though?

That's nice but art is more down to the attitude and mindset of the creator than what the finished work looks like. I would say that most modded pcs are artistic ^_^

[BrokenKingpin]

8.10... I really like blue lighting in PC cases.

[hoppipolla]

8.10... I really like blue lighting in PC cases.

I give it a 9.10 Karmic Koala! lol :)

[cascade9]

That's nice but art is more down to the attitude and mindset of the creator than what the finished work looks like. I would say that most modded pcs are artistic ^_^

I wouldn't. Doing a cable tidy, and putting a cold cathode into the case does not count as 'art' in my book. I don't count my engineering/chopping up/structural modding on cases as art.

[ukripper]

6/10 being power hungry and doesn't work on Wind mill/Solar:P

[hoppipolla]

I wouldn't. Doing a cable tidy, and putting a cold cathode into the case does not count as 'art' in my book. I don't count my engineering/chopping up/structural modding on cases as art.

I dunno man, like I say it depends what his attitude is or was when he made it :)

[JugglinPhil]

6/10 being power hungry and doesn't work on Wind mill/Solar:P
Awesome point, save the planet buddy! :P

[hoppipolla]

Awesome point, save the planet buddy! :P

xD

[OmegaAI]

Meh. I am a gaming person. I love Ubuntu but my gaming is one of those things I cannot just "give up". Playing Crysis and a few other games takes a lot of power.... e-e damn crysis and its wonderful sexy beautiful :|

[hoppipolla]

Meh. I am a gaming person. I love Ubuntu but my gaming is one of those things I cannot just "give up". Playing Crysis and a few other games takes a lot of power.... e-e damn crysis and its wonderful sexy beautiful :|

that's cool, you never have to give up Windows anyway coz dual booting works so well :)

Just use what you wanna use!

[ukripper]

Here are some power cosumption stats for various consoles and PC
http://www.hardcoreware.net/xbox-360-ps3-wii-power-consumption/2/

[JugglinPhil]

Here are some power cosumption stats for various consoles and PC
http://www.hardcoreware.net/xbox-360-ps3-wii-power-consumption/2/
That's pretty crazy, how come the Wii uses so much less compared to the other consoles?

[Exodist]

I see everyone talking about power supplies. I know mine is maxed out and if I need anything installed a new PSU would be a good investment.
Currently I am still sporting a CoolerMaster TruePower 550w RMS PSU.
It runs my PC good, but I would really like something more modular like those PSUs with detachable cables or what not. Also I need a 700w so I can hook more stuff. Plus it may help my PC run cooler. Hate to cause my own brown out effect inside my case.
Which is something else not mentioned by alot of users. Just because someone has a 1000w PSU doesnt mean they are pulling 1000w all the time. The PSU is just rated at that max wattage incase the user needs that much juice. Else his/her system prob on setting around pulling 50 to 150w on idle and 250w on use unless he has a huge RAID array and SLI cards.

[cascade9]

Here are some power cosumption stats for various consoles and PC
http://www.hardcoreware.net/xbox-360-ps3-wii-power-consumption/2/

I havent got an issue with the wii/xbox/ps3 consumption figures, but PC power consumptions figures very, a lot.

Exodist- what are you running to max out a 550?

[VigVoodoo]

Nice computer. I give it a 7. A little too expensive.

My $600 setup:

AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition processor
Dual Channel G.Skill DDR3 1333 2GB memory
ECS Black Edition 790GX motherboard
Dual XFX HD 4870 1GB graphics cards
WD 640GB Caviar Black SATA 3.0Gb/s hard drive
Thermaltake 700W 80 PLUS Certified efficiency power supply
Cooler Master RC-690 mid-tower case

Max power draw = 420 watts