Grub 2 looks much more complicated

[Sealbhach]

I'm not looking forward to when I have to fiddle about with it. I mean, just check this out:

Grub 2 Title Tweaks (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8082954&postcount=1)

and this is the new way to restore Grub after installing Windows (requires chroot):

http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html

Looks like a lot more stuff to do, this will not be easy to convey to beginners in the Absolute Beginners Forum....

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[lukjad]

Errr... wrong thread.

[hoppipolla]

It's probably a better bootloader though. I mean maybe the solution is just to have more GUI tools to configure and reinstall it.

[jaxxstorm]

I also though this. My Windows 7 partition is on a weird drive root, with Grub1 it takes 2 seconds to change the numbers, with grub 2 it seems terrifying!

[Exodist]

Grub2 is still to early. I am not sure it will be "rock-solid" enough in time for Lucid. I am betting the Devs think it will be, but It should have been solid for this release before being put into Lucid.

[hoppipolla]

Grub2 is still to early. I am not sure it will be "rock-solid" enough in time for Lucid. I am betting the Devs think it will be, but It should have been solid for this release before being put into Lucid.

it does work fine for me though and it even boots Windows! Are people still having usability problems with it other than it's complexity?

[Xbehave]

until grub2 supports locking it will not be taken seriously by distros, what is the point in having a secure linux install if i can just boot to an old kernel/single user mode, anyway?

BTW switching to xubuntu is silly because xubuntu will switch to grub2 when ubuntu does.

[koenn]

I'm not looking forward to when I have to fiddle about with it. I mean, just check this out:

Grub 2 Title Tweaks (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8082954&postcount=1)

and this is the new way to restore Grub after installing Windows (requires chroot):

http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html

Looks like a lot more stuff to do, this will not be easy to convey to beginners in the Absolute Beginners Forum....

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that doesn't look too bad;

restoring grub after installing Windows is still just a few simple commands that absolute beginners can copy and paste.

The tweaks look elaborate on first sight, but it's still just text editing. And only geeks will want to customize their boot menu, so no problem there - geeks love to learn stuff like this.

[Bachstelze]

Which is why I'm going to be switching to Xubuntu. :)

What does it have to do with GRUB?

[coldReactive]

What does it have to do with GRUB?

+1, because the release notes of 9.10 Xubuntu state that they're using GRUB 2 as well.

[Xbehave]

+1, because the release notes of 9.10 Xubuntu state that they're using GRUB 2 as well.
wait grub2 is in karmic ? LAME i was going to come back to *buntu on 9.10 but i do not want to be dealing with grub2 unless it can password protect options.

[Bachstelze]

wait grub2 is in karmic ? LAME i was going to come back to *buntu on 9.10 but i do not want to be dealing with grub2 unless it can password protect options.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub

GRUB 0.97 is still there, so even if GRUB 2 gets installed by default, you can just replace it with:


sudo apt-get install grub

BTW, I would be very surprised if GRUB 2 couldn't password-protect some boot options.

[Exodist]

it does work fine for me though and it even boots Windows! Are people still having usability problems with it other than it's complexity?

Seems a few are. Something I hoped would have already been resolved. Hate to see G2 going into Karmic with even one known bug. Reason being that would give us 6 months to make sure there was NO issues when using in Lucid.

[coldReactive]

http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub

GRUB 0.97 is still there, so even if GRUB 2 gets installed by default, you can just replace it with:


sudo apt-get install grub

BTW, I would be very surprised if GRUB 2 couldn't password-protect some boot options.

Wouldn't that give the good 'ol "package is referred by another package" error?

[Bachstelze]

Wouldn't that give the good 'ol "package is referred by another package" error?

Nope.

[BrokenKingpin]

What are the benefits of GRUB 2 over GRUB 1? I guess I could look it up, but I am far too lazy :P