Many of the Ubuntu users don't know KDE

[praveesh]

I could find a few Ubuntu users nearby . It was a surprise to me that none of them have heard of the KDE ,before.
Hmm , that's not a big surprise, my pc had fedora preinstalled in it with kde (I told the hardware vendor to install linux. I didn't know about different distributions other than the name linux). Other wise , I too would be included in the previous group.

[RichardLinx]

It's a little sad isn't it? Thanks to modern distro's like Ubuntu, Mint, openSUSE and Fedora, being a Linux user no longer means you're exceptionally good with computers and that you like to tinker around.
I'm pretty sure many people don't even know Ubuntu is Linux or that there are other versions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's the price that comes with becoming user friendly.

[joey-elijah]

Hmm...

I don't think it's that big of a deal if grandma doesn't know about LXDE or XFCE or KDE... she probably just wants something that works and hey presto! What she found does.

Had she been using Suse from the get-go she might not know about Gnome...

[hoppipolla]

Yeah I think a fair few don't, although most of the people I have met on here seem to have heard of it and quite a few use it :)

I think the biggest problem I have come across though is misconception of KDE, as quite a few people seem to think it's still a lot like it was at KDE 4.0 or 4.1, which isn't the case.

I think awareness of it is increasing though :)

[joey-elijah]

Yeah I think a fair few don't, although most of the people I have met on here seem to have heard of it and quite a few use it :)

I think the biggest problem I have come across though is misconception of KDE, as quite a few people seem to think it's still a lot like it was at KDE 4.0 or 4.1, which isn't the case.

I think awareness of it is increasing though :)

I used to dislike KDE severely - i was new to Linux in general and whilst gnome was simple and straight forward KDE 4.0 confused the bejesuzz out of me.

KDE 4.3 - Ahhhh, now we're talking!

[Crunchy the Headcrab]

Yeah I think a fair few don't, although most of the people I have met on here seem to have heard of it and quite a few use it :)

I think the biggest problem I have come across though is misconception of KDE, as quite a few people seem to think it's still a lot like it was at KDE 4.0 or 4.1, which isn't the case.

I think awareness of it is increasing though :)
Really? I didn't find anything that different in any of the recent KDE releases. I mean...I can say the same thing about Gnome, but I actually like Gnome, so it's not a problem for me. Yes I have used KDE 4.3.

[lisati]

Ah, I have a Kubuntu live CD floating around somewhere. Must get round to using it some day soon.

[joey-elijah]

Really? I didn't find anything that different in any of the recent KDE releases. I mean...I can say the same thing about Gnome, but I actually like Gnome, so it's not a problem for me. Yes I have used KDE 4.3.

KDE 4.3 is, usability wise, a different kettle of fish to 4.0. It may look the same but BOY has it been refined and nurtured. (And the system settings panel is understandable - yay for us poor gnome-breds!)

[hoppipolla]

KDE 4.3 is, usability wise, a different kettle of fish to 4.0. It may look the same but BOY has it been refined and nurtured. (And the system settings panel is understandable - yay for us poor gnome-breds!)

Yeah totally, it's a much more refined, friendly, stable and visually impressive desktop now. I think with a little bit more work, it will be at standards high enough to compete with commercial alternatives AND still provide flexibility and control surpassing that of KDE 3.x! It's going to be rather special :)

[joey-elijah]

Yeah totally, it's a much more refined, friendly, stable and visually impressive desktop now. I think with a little bit more work, it will be at standards high enough to compete with commercial alternatives AND still provide flexibility and control surpassing that of KDE 3.x! It's going to be rather special :)

Once word sums up the awesomeness of 4.3. That word is 'Air'.

[hoppipolla]

Once word sums up the awesomeness of 4.3. That word is 'Air'.

Well, yes the Air theme is nice as well! lol :)

There have been many improvements though!

[Tipped OuT]

Once word sums up the awesomeness of 4.3. That word is 'Air'.

Yes, Air is the one theme that I actually love 100%. Nothing seems to be better then it. They did a good job.

[OpenGuard]

Why it's such a suprise ? Ubuntu means Gnome, in terms of what new users receive when they go to Ubuntu's website and download the latest release. No one has a chance to choose between Gnome, KDE and XFCE when they are downloading their adventure. If there would be an option to select one from various DE's, people would at least search Google for some screenshots, not just use what they got.

[praveesh]

Yes, Air is the one theme that I actually love 100%. Nothing seems to be better then it. They did a good job.

I don't like the air 100% . The look of the kicker and lancelot menu doesn't meet my taste.

[praveesh]

Why it's such a suprise ? Ubuntu means Gnome, in terms of what new users receive when they go to Ubuntu's website and download the latest release. No one has a chance to choose between Gnome, KDE and XFCE when they are downloading their adventure. If there would be an option to select one from various DE's, people would at least search Google for some screenshots, not just use what they got.

That's the advantage of being official.

[~sHyLoCk~]

I am loving my 4.3.2 :KS

It's a snap of 4.3.1 though but same look.

[XubuRoxMySox]

I was two months into Ubuntu from Windows before I thought of giving KDE a try. Kubuntu (9.04) was reeeeeeally slow compared to Ubuntu, and it was not a little confusing. But I kept reading that Kubuntu was "bad implementation" of KDE, so to really judge KDE fairly one had to try it other than in Kubuntu or "kubuntu-desktop."

So I played with PCLinuxOS because a friend raves about how awesome it is. On his computer, yeah maybe. But on my older Dell Dimension, PCLOS had all kindsa hardware issues that were never a problem in Ubuntu. KDE was a little faster and easier in PCLOS than in Kubuntu, but all the K-apps are a little confusing at first. It looked like "AOL for Linux" or something with proprietary everything...

I did try them all and I have a few favorites, like K3b, that I find far superior to their Gnome counterparts on my machine. It was a fun experiment, and I might have stuck with KDE if not for the very slow speed on my older hardware and the "bad implementation of KDE" in Kubuntu or the hardware issues with PCLOS.

I settled on something that looks kinda like KDE, only it's lightning fast on my old 'puter and lighter even than Xfce. I found it Googling "Lightweight desktop environments" and tried it out, quickly becoming a fanboy.

-Robin

[praveesh]

I was two months into Ubuntu from Windows before I thought of giving KDE a try. Kubuntu (9.04) was reeeeeeally slow compared to Ubuntu, and it was not a little confusing. But I kept reading that Kubuntu was "bad implementation" of KDE, so to really judge KDE fairly one had to try it other than in Kubuntu or "kubuntu-desktop."

So I played with PCLinuxOS because a friend raves about how awesome it is. On his computer, yeah maybe. But on my older Dell Dimension, PCLOS had all kindsa hardware issues that were never a problem in Ubuntu. KDE was a little faster and easier in PCLOS than in Kubuntu, but all the K-apps are a little confusing at first. It looked like "AOL for Linux" or something with proprietary everything...

I did try them all and I have a few favorites, like K3b, that I find far superior to their Gnome counterparts on my machine. It was a fun experiment, and I might have stuck with KDE if not for the very slow speed on my older hardware and the "bad implementation of KDE" in Kubuntu or the hardware issues with PCLOS.

I settled on something that looks kinda like KDE, only it's lightning fast on my old 'puter and lighter even than Xfce. I found it Googling "Lightweight desktop environments" and tried it out, quickly becoming a fanboy.

-Robin

. The KDE implementation of OpenSUSE and Mandriva are good (I haven't try mandriva but the opensuse was really nice ) . If you are interested, you may try . I haven't hear someone saying "the kde implementation of pclinuxos is good "

[praveesh]

I was two months into Ubuntu from Windows before I thought of giving KDE a try. Kubuntu (9.04) was reeeeeeally slow compared to Ubuntu, and it was not a little confusing. But I kept reading that Kubuntu was "bad implementation" of KDE, so to really judge KDE fairly one had to try it other than in Kubuntu or "kubuntu-desktop."

So I played with PCLinuxOS because a friend raves about how awesome it is. On his computer, yeah maybe. But on my older Dell Dimension, PCLOS had all kindsa hardware issues that were never a problem in Ubuntu. KDE was a little faster and easier in PCLOS than in Kubuntu, but all the K-apps are a little confusing at first. It looked like "AOL for Linux" or something with proprietary everything...

I did try them all and I have a few favorites, like K3b, that I find far superior to their Gnome counterparts on my machine. It was a fun experiment, and I might have stuck with KDE if not for the very slow speed on my older hardware and the "bad implementation of KDE" in Kubuntu or the hardware issues with PCLOS.

I settled on something that looks kinda like KDE, only it's lightning fast on my old 'puter and lighter even than Xfce. I found it Googling "Lightweight desktop environments" and tried it out, quickly becoming a fanboy.

-Robin

The lxde is nice , but I couldn't find how it looks similar to the Kde

[Danny Dubya]

Why don't you try a distro other than an Ubuntu fork. Pclinuxos is an Ubuntu fork . The KDE implementation of OpenSUSE and Mandriva are good (I haven't try mandriva but the opensuse was really nice )
Uh... you say "try Mandriva instead of PCLinuxOS", but PCLinuxOS is a fork of Mandriva, not Ubuntu. So it may potentially give that guy the same hardware issues PCLOS gave him.

EDIT : Okay, maybe not. Sounds like the fork was three years ago? Either way, def. not a stepchild of Ubuntu.


Although it retains a similar "look and feel" to Mandriva Linux, PCLinuxOS has diverged significantly. The code was officially forked from Mandrake 9.2 into an independent project in 2003. After three years of contiguous development, the developers took advantage of further development in [the renamed] Mandriva, and forked the code again late in 2006 for PCLinuxOS 2007.

Agreed on, and can personally vouch for the solidness of openSUSE's KDE.

[Boom!!!]

I used to dislike KDE severely - i was new to Linux in general and whilst gnome was simple and straight forward KDE 4.0 confused the bejesuzz out of me.

KDE 4.3 - Ahhhh, now we're talking!


I agree, 4.3 is a dream.


I first started on Linux AROUND 2002 (Mandrake) Gnome and used that up until about a month ago,:P

[Boom!!!]

Yes, Air is the one theme that I actually love 100%. Nothing seems to be better then it. They did a good job.

:P
Have you had time to test out Karmic from iso, because even the installer is Air, reason I

ask is I know you are on a rented atm.

[praveesh]

:P
Have you had time to test out Karmic from iso, because even the installer is Air, reason I

ask is I know you are on a rented atm.

Is it? Wow wonderful . But I haven't try . Can you please post any screenshot ?

[Warpnow]

...Why would they need to know about KDE?

Chances are they wouldn't care. I doubt they know about different shells or terminal emulators, either, but they wouldn't care about those either.

KDE is easy to figure out about. If they expiriment at all with themes they will eventually come across a KDE one. If they haven't expirimented with themes, they probably don't give a **** what their desktop looks like, and thus would not like KDE.

[Mighty_Joe]

Kubuntu (9.04) was reeeeeeally slow compared to Ubuntu, and it was not a little confusing.

I'm a long time KDE user and I'm disappointed in Kubuntu. Things that "Just Work" with Ubuntu are broken on the Kubuntu side. I think Kubuntu is slow as well. Getting Java and Flash to work took a few hours of fiddling. There was a time that I'd just grin and bear it (heck, there was a time I ran Gentoo!), but I don't have the free time now-a-days, so back to Ubuntu I go.