Super High resolution monitor

[bcn17]

I am looking at getting a new monitor, I have 4 samsungs in comparison view if you check here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2010190020&StoreType=-1&CompareItemList=N82E16824001317,N82E16824001330,N8 2E16824001331,N82E16824001276&OEMMark=0&Manufactory=1077&PropertyCodeValue=3098:47909,3098:49275,3098:46874 ,3098:23867,3098:21326,3098:46872,3098:46873&bop=And

The cheapest one has a really high resolution, and I like that idea,however are there any real drawbacks with really high res? It seems the extra desk space would be nice, probably easily fit two windows side by side.

The larger monitors have more actual space, but not the resolution and there more expensive.

I'm just looking for any ideas/input.

Does anyone have any experience with a really high resolution monitor that isn't absolutely huge in size.

[lukeiamyourfather]

In my opinion anything with a pixel pitch smaller than 0.27mm (e.g. 1920x1200 resolution on 24 inch monitor) is difficult to use on a daily basis because text is so small. Eventually interfaces will be resolution independent and we can all have higher resolution monitors without tiny text but until then I'm going to stick to that metric. Cheers!

[sideaway]

I have 15.4" monitor with 1920x1200, and I love it :D

So no, I don't think you'll have any issues in that respect, as long as your eyes are good :) However the other two screens have nicer panels installed... Depends on your needs I guess.

[AppleBonker]

The only drawback I see with the higher-res monitor is the response time, though I doubt you'll have much of a problem there. I like my 23" widescreen (1920x1080). I don't know that I need much more resolution that that personally, but I am running a pair of those. I think if either monitor was a higher resolution than it currently is, I might have a hard time seeing things on it (text on screen is barely legible for me at a font size of about 7). But, that might be because I sit far enough back to be able to view both of the monitors. If I only had one, I'd probably reduce the viewing distance a bit. Depending on what kind of monitor you're coming from now, I'm sure you'll be happy with any of those.

My only advice comes from my A/V habit. I always recommend people go as large as they can. At first a new monitor/tv will seem huge. But a few months later once you've gotten used to it, most people will wish they went a bit larger. That is just what I've noticed and my personal preference, so take it with a grain of salt.

[mudguts]

I'm a big fan of dual monitors.
I usually turn a widescreen sideways (like my Acer p221w) so I can read / write easier. Then keep my HP 1955 as my 'main' monitor.

the resolution is nice but unless you have a card that can pull it off, why bother going too crazy.

If you use it for reading websites, email, ebay etc. etc. it won't be used. If you use it for creating graphic logos / applications etc. etc. then goto town.

just my two cents.

[sideaway]

If hes doing design, hes gonna want one (or two) of the lower resolution montors, the colour production will be far superior. Then again, if hes doing design he should be looking at IPS monitors rather than TN. What video card does the OP have? Also, does he game or watch HD movies?

[sloggerkhan]

Yeah, you can get an CPVA rather than TN http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001332 in a similar price range.

Otherwise I'd probably go with a larger screen over higher res. Just my prefs, but color > size > raw res (if res is at least 1080P and size is at least 22" IMO)

[starcannon]

Outta that line up, I like:
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER P2570 Glossy Black 24.6" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 70000:1(1000:1) - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001331)

[Tipped OuT]

The higher the resolution, the less FPS you get. This applies in games and your desktop.

Of course you can lower the resolution, but this gives you a blurry stretched quality.

[bcn17]

Thanks for the input everyone.

I hadn't ever read into the panel type before, but I looked them up. IPS- too expensive.. TN i guess is basically everwhere. Do you think a CPVA type panel will experience ghosting during movies?

If not then the samsung CPVA seems like the best bang for the buck, although its a 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 would be nice... I'm even still considering the 2048x1152 but am afraid that everything would be too small. If only they had a larger screen size in the 2048x1152!

I don't play any games, but do use my monitor for movies (I don't have a TV). I generally am web surfing, writing papers, using spreadsheets, and image editing. Although my image editing is very basic, mostly to make graphs and figures.

Also my videocard should be fine.

Also, just to make sure I understand:

If two monitors have the same resolution, and one is bigger- then the bigger monitor must have a larger pixel pitch.

Correct?

So then, what size monitors are generally too big for 1920x1080? I mean there is a HansG 28" at costco with this resolution, although I'm sure its cheaply made...

And, on the same note, what is to small- I suppose the 23" 2048x1152 is pushing it, although all that real-estate would be nice. It would just be a shame if I ended up straining my eyes all the time. I'm young but I want my eyes to last!

[bcn17]

I guess 2048x1152 isn't much bigger than 1920x1200.

genius> 1920*1080
= 2073600
genius> 1920*1200
= 2304000
genius> 2048*1152
= 2359296

So a bigger screen is probably worth the 2.5% amount of space lost. Although, there is a decent difference when comparing to 1920x1080.

Seems like I'm probably going to be stuck with a TN panel if I want this resolution though. Although I have had a 19" princeton VL19 (a TN panel) for about 5-6 years now and have actually been very happy with it. So I probably don't have a critical enough eye to notice the difference!

[Skripka]

I guess 2048x1152 isn't much bigger than 1920x1200.

genius> 1920*1080
= 2073600
genius> 1920*1200
= 2304000
genius> 2048*1152
= 2359296

So a bigger screen is probably worth the 2.5% amount of space lost. Although, there is a decent difference when comparing to 1920x1080.

Seems like I'm probably going to be stuck with a TN panel if I want this resolution though. Although I have had a 19" princeton VL19 (a TN panel) for about 5-6 years now and have actually been very happy with it. So I probably don't have a critical enough eye to notice the difference!

I'd take the 2048*1152.

My box (see sig) is driving a 22" monitor @ 1680*1050. I'd take a few inch smaller monitor and higher pixel/inch count, rather than bigger monitor with lower pixel/inch count. Remember-a 23" LCD panel is STILL a big monitor. Widescreens are nice but their biggest failing is their lack of vertical space-which necessitates more scrolling.

Font/object sizes you can tweak. Pixel density can only be changed by buying a new LCD panel.

Also be wary and check monitor reviews. Cheap LCD panels tend to render colors poorly. My ASUS LCD panel sucks at rendering reds. Samsungs tend to be better.

[BrokenKingpin]

I have a 24" Dell monitor running at 1920x1200 and I have no issues with it.

[sloggerkhan]

Big factor in the screen size/dot pitch debate is how far away the screen is. Also, keep in mind that hdtvs are basically 1920x1080, only with screens that tend to be 32"+. Personal opinion is that 1920-class resolution is probably fine through 30" or 32" as a display, particularly if you are planning to watch a lot of movies on your PC, or don't mind sitting a little bit further back if it bothers.

Likewise, all those who say widescreen doesn't have the vertical space, you can always mount the thing vertically and see a whole page at once.

I can't really speak too much to the cpva panel thing as far as movies and screen movement goes. I don't know that I've personally used one, though I can speak to encountering LOADS of tn panels with terrible color banding and poor black levels (which can really ruin a movie if it's got a lot of dark scenes).

[Skripka]

Likewise, all those who say widescreen doesn't have the vertical space, you can always mount the thing vertically and see a whole page at once.


Many if not most low-end LCD panels do not have the base hardware to rotate vertically.

[sloggerkhan]

Many if not most low-end LCD panels do not have the base hardware to rotate vertically.

Nearly all of them have vesa compliant brackets, though, so it's kinda moot.

[hessiess]

In my opinion anything with a pixel pitch smaller than 0.27mm (e.g. 1920x1200 resolution on 24 inch monitor) is difficult to use on a daily basis because text is so small. Eventually interfaces will be resolution independent and we can all have higher resolution monitors without tiny text but until then I'm going to stick to that metric. Cheers!

GTK is fairly res independent, you can change the font size in the theame options. Win forms and most SDL based applications are verry resolution dependent.

Wide screen monitors are fine, they just prove that movern applications waste far to much screen space.