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mick222
October 6th, 2009, 10:00 AM
How do you report misuse of gnu license. I am using my daughters laptop "vista" and decided to upgrade gimp, this link came up as the top link in google. If you try to download it wants to install some kind of dialer wich says you will be charged £4 for texts, i never went any further but assume you will have to text before it lets you download gimp. This was the sponsored gooogle link.
http://www.thegimp-uk.com/uk/faq.html
Another advantage of linux repos only contain safe software.
Just checked out the rest of the site, this claims to be legal as they are charging only for use of their servers. I'm glad i no longer use windows a lot of users could be tricked or put off gimp by this.

-grubby
October 6th, 2009, 10:22 AM
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html

As for the site, I don't think that's a GPL violaton. After all, you're free to do what you want with the Gimp source (including putting up fake websites about it) as long as you follow the GPL.

LookTJ
October 6th, 2009, 10:30 AM
Are they allowed to use the name "GIMP"?

mick222
October 6th, 2009, 11:26 AM
If you notice they use "the gimp"

Bachstelze
October 6th, 2009, 11:29 AM
Are they allowed to use the name "GIMP"?

Yes. AFAIK, it is not a registered trademark.

ade234uk
October 6th, 2009, 11:30 AM
Any money they make, a proportion of this needs to go back to GIMP to help with development and make this better.

An organisation needs to be set up, so that any monies made from people selling Linux CD/DVD on ebay, or any other open source, a proportion of their profits go back to the maintainers.

Bachstelze
October 6th, 2009, 11:31 AM
Any money they make, a proportion of this needs to go back to GIMP to help with development and make this better.

An organisation needs to be set up, so that any monies made from people selling Linux CD/DVD on ebay, or any other open source, a proportion of their profits go back to the maintainers.

"All your monies are belong to us! And hail to Freedom!"

ade234uk
October 6th, 2009, 11:32 AM
I just cant see how that is fair. A decent person, would at least put some of the profits back in to the project.

I would personally do this.

If it was not for all the hard work of people, where would be. I would probably still be using Windows on my home machine.

madnessjack
October 6th, 2009, 11:51 AM
The best we can do is report it as misleading to Google (or whatever your browser suggests)

starcannon
October 6th, 2009, 11:51 AM
Yep thats pretty disgusting. I think it sucks they are blatantly abusing The Gimp; what do you do though?

Be sure to inform all your mates that it is charging for something they can get for free.

dasunst3r
October 6th, 2009, 11:58 AM
If you are looking for GIMP for Windows, here you go: http://gimp.org/windows/

mick222
October 6th, 2009, 12:25 PM
If you are looking for GIMP for Windows, here you go: http://gimp.org/windows/
I know how to get gimp for windows i was just searching on google for it when this came up. At first thought it was the official site as it looks very professional. It wasn't until i started to download that i realised it was a con.

Viva
October 6th, 2009, 04:33 PM
It is perfectly legal to sell a GPLed software.

FuturePilot
October 6th, 2009, 04:49 PM
Ugly site is ugly. Also, who decided to use <blink>? They should be fired. :p

Skripka
October 6th, 2009, 05:07 PM
"All your monies are belong to us! And hail to Freedom!"

For Great Justice.

Code Zig!!!

unoodles
October 6th, 2009, 05:34 PM
I have not downloaded it, but from the site, it mentions that it is Freeware, and they have their own license on their website.
I really think this is a violation, since the GIMP is GPL.

Bachstelze
October 6th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I have not downloaded it, but from the site, it mentions that it is Freeware, and they have their own license on their website.
I really think this is a violation, since the GIMP is GPL.

It is not said anywhere that the license applies to GIMP.

kirsis
October 6th, 2009, 06:03 PM
It's a bit ironic how some people, in trying to defend GPLed works, try to figure out how to prohibit something.

It's not ethical to distribute Gimp for money (by non-developers), sure. But it's well within their rights.

cariboo
October 6th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Ironically, I clicked on the download link, and chromium ask If I was sure I wanted to download the file, as it may harm my computer. :)

Exodist
October 6th, 2009, 07:50 PM
The site doesnt ask for money, but its strange that they just post it up.

Chronon
October 6th, 2009, 07:52 PM
Read this: http://www.thegimp-uk.com/uk/condiciones.php



PRELIMINARY WARNING:
THE COST OF EACH SMS FROM THE USER'S MOBILE PHONE IS FOUR POUNDS. UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED, THE DOWNLOAD COST SHALL BE ONE SMS.
Please read these USAGE CONDITIONS carefully and, if appropriate, use the download service which shall imply the express and complete acceptance of each and every one of these USAGE CONDITIONS. Otherwise, please close this website.

ONE. PREMIUM SERVICE DESCRIPTION

1.1. Through this website (hereinafter the Website), users can download executables that contain the selected computer program from our servers to their hard drive (the SOFTWARE).

1.2. Marbore Innovations offers a PREMIUM high speed download service that is efficient and virus free. In exchange, the user shall first send one SMS under the conditions specified in clause 2.2 that defines the commercial conditions of the service.


They are charging you for a download service, not for the software. They also have this note in fine print at the bottom of the site:

This site does not belong to an affiliation network. Downloaded software has to be used according to copyrights, trademarks and other intellectual property regulation in use. A version of this software can be downloaded for free in the developer's official website. Craks, keygens and serials are not allowed. This site is not responsible for an inappropriate use of downloaded software.

Yes, it's opportunistic. I don't see a download link for the source and without downloading the binary from them it's hard to tell if it's a GPL violation or not. (They must provide access to the source if they are going to supply binaries of GPL software, IIUC.)

forrestcupp
October 6th, 2009, 07:54 PM
It is perfectly legal to sell a GPLed software.


It's a bit ironic how some people, in trying to defend GPLed works, try to figure out how to prohibit something.

It's not ethical to distribute Gimp for money (by non-developers), sure. But it's well within their rights.

These comments are right. If you guys are going to whine about people violating the GPL, you really should read and understand the GPL license first. It's legal and acceptable for anyone in the world to try to sell any GPL'ed software.

If I wanted to, and if I could find people ignorant enough to buy it from me, I could legally take Blender or any other GPL software and sell it for $500. I would just have to follow what the license really says and make the source code available, and send back any changes I make.

If someone is ignorant enough to buy it when it is available elsewhere free of charge, that's their mistake, but it's not against the GPL license.

Exodist
October 6th, 2009, 07:57 PM
Whois said the domain is about to expire. But doesnt have any more detail.

Chronon
October 6th, 2009, 08:15 PM
If I wanted to, and if I could find people ignorant enough to buy it from me, I could legally take Blender or any other GPL software and sell it for $500. I would just have to follow what the license really says and make the source code available, and send back any changes I make.


You don't have to send back changes. You merely have to make the source corresponding to the binaries you're supplying available. I am not sure if they have fulfilled this part of it. I suppose they could simply include instructions on how to check out the source from the project's GIT repository and that would fulfill the requirement.

The reason for complaint shouldn't be price, it should be lack of information about the license and links to the source on their site. It's certainly valid for them to charge money for a download service, as they claim they are doing.

ice60
October 6th, 2009, 08:22 PM
how did you manage to get that as the top result on google :confused:

mick222
October 6th, 2009, 08:29 PM
how did you manage to get that as the top result on google
Paid for it I usually avoid the sponsored links unless i know the company.

ice60
October 6th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Paid for it I usually avoid the sponsored links unless i know the company.
oh, right. i suppose you mentioned that lol. i got a script that removes the adds, i didn't see it (OT and a script that pages through all the links so you don't have to click through the pages :D)

Chronon
October 6th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Hmm. . . I realized that I have trained myself never to look in the sidebar at the sponsored links.