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eragon100
October 2nd, 2009, 07:27 PM
It's the User Story for "Helen" on the software center wiki page: (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#October%202009)

"Helen is happily using Ubuntu 10.04 when it tells her that Ubuntu 10.10 has been released. Before she upgrades, she has some basic questions. What will the upgrade do? How long will it take? How much will it cost? Will she lose any of her files? What should she do if something goes wrong?"
(Emphasis mine)."

What do they mean "how much will it cost"? Does Canonical have plans to start asking money for ubuntu in the future? Or is this just a stupidly choosen example?

FuturePilot
October 2nd, 2009, 07:31 PM
Does Canonical have plans to start asking money for ubuntu in the future?

I think there may be plans to offer software through the Software Center that is not free as in cost. However, when it comes to Ubuntu specifically:


Ubuntu will always be free of charge, including enterprise releases and security updates.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

Artificial Intelligence
October 2nd, 2009, 07:32 PM
What do they mean "how much will it cost"? Does Canonical have plans to start asking money for ubuntu in the future? Or is this just a stupidly choosen example?


No. It's just a standard question many people ask, because they are used to that everything cost money (see price tag).


I think there may be plans to offer software through the Software Center that is not free as in cost.
I thought that as well. You can already buy special stuff in .deb format. like codecs etc.
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19&osCsid=8781e63fe3bc574238a9e70318ee0613

eragon100
October 2nd, 2009, 07:41 PM
No. It's just a standard question many people ask, because they are used to that everything cost money (see price tag).


I thought that as well. You can already buy special stuff in .deb format. like codecs etc.
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19&osCsid=8781e63fe3bc574238a9e70318ee0613

Yeah I know these things -- I thought that maybe they wanted to change their policy, or start asking money for the service of auto-upgrading or something. Glad to hear that's not the case :)

hoppipolla
October 2nd, 2009, 07:47 PM
I think there may be plans to offer software through the Software Center that is not free as in cost.

Personally I think that is a fantastic idea :)

I mean ok, it means we have to occasionally part with cash, but it means more money for developers and distributions, which in turn will help to improve our OS!

forrestcupp
October 2nd, 2009, 08:00 PM
Personally I think that is a fantastic idea :)

I mean ok, it means we have to occasionally part with cash, but it means more money for developers and distributions, which in turn will help to improve our OS!

That's what donating is for. Everyone with that mentality should donate 20 bucks here and there when they are able.

SunnyRabbiera
October 2nd, 2009, 08:45 PM
No. It's just a standard question many people ask, because they are used to that everything cost money (see price tag).


I thought that as well. You can already buy special stuff in .deb format. like codecs etc.
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19&osCsid=8781e63fe3bc574238a9e70318ee0613

In the new future it might be possible with might have a "premium" repository, where non free software will be sold.
I like to see a repo for Crossover, and the pay for codecs

misfitpierce
October 2nd, 2009, 08:48 PM
Yup as said the Ubuntu OS will always be free of charge and its just a general question that is always asked... but they could also add software that you can buy such as Nero Linux, Parallels, etc etc.

NormanFLinux
October 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
Its not a new idea. Linspire and later Xandros, offers both free and paid software to install through their Click N Run client. The Software Center is more or less the same thing for Ubuntu.

samirbasha
October 3rd, 2009, 04:15 AM
may be there will be silver , golden and platinum membership for repos
:lolflag:

for many people this idea is OK for many others it's a disappointment.

Frak
October 3rd, 2009, 04:42 AM
Good: Maybe they'll start offering commercial software, so I no longer need to worry about distribution specific configurations or anything. One click, and VMWare Workstation will do it's magic.

Bad: Holy-explitive batman! CNR is back!

Artificial Intelligence
October 3rd, 2009, 06:47 AM
may be there will be silver , golden and platinum membership for repos
:lolflag:

for many people this idea is OK for many others it's a disappointment.

:confused:
You lost me there.
People still get Ubuntu and the whole repositories for free as they do now.
But as I understand it you can buy commercial/pay apps/whatever and then download it via the Software Center instead of go to a website(s) each time to download .deb

It's not like CNR that sales eg. Open Office for $34, it would be like software you actually have to pay for regardless its download form.
It could be apps like Cedega, crossover, Nero Linux, Freethink Office etc.

xArv3nx
October 3rd, 2009, 06:50 AM
:confused:
You lost me there.
People still get Ubuntu and the whole repositories for free as they do now.
But as I understand it you can buy commercial/pay apps/whatever and then download it via the Software Center instead of go to a website(s) each time to download .deb

It's not like CNR that sales eg. Open Office for $34, it would be like software you actually have to pay for regardless its download form.
It could be apps like Cedega, crossover, Nero Linux, Freethink Office etc.
cnr sells openoffice for $34?

Artificial Intelligence
October 3rd, 2009, 06:52 AM
cnr sells openoffice for $34?

Not anymore. Back then some years ago they did sell Open Source that was free of charge for an amount of $$$

There was a big fuss about it back then about CNR selling stuff people could freely download.
It was back when the Linspire was alive and kicking. AFAIK

starcannon
October 3rd, 2009, 07:53 AM
It's the User Story for "Helen" on the software center wiki page: (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#October%202009)

"Helen is happily using Ubuntu 10.04 when it tells her that Ubuntu 10.10 has been released. Before she upgrades, she has some basic questions. What will the upgrade do? How long will it take? How much will it cost? Will she lose any of her files? What should she do if something goes wrong?"
(Emphasis mine)."

What do they mean "how much will it cost"? Does Canonical have plans to start asking money for ubuntu in the future? Or is this just a stupidly choosen example?
Helen may be running commercial *nix software that she bought from Canonical Store, or from a 3rd party, or hardware specifications may change. Canonical has already stated that Ubuntu will always be free:


The Ubuntu promise



Ubuntu will always be free of charge, including enterprise releases and security updates.
Ubuntu comes with full commercial support from Canonical and hundreds of companies around the world.
Ubuntu includes the very best translations and accessibility infrastructure that the free software community has to offer.
Ubuntu CDs contain only free software applications; we encourage you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.

Read more about the Ubuntu philosophy (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy)
http://www.ubuntu.com/

samirbasha
October 3rd, 2009, 08:21 AM
Helen may be running commercial *nix software that she bought from Canonical Store, or from a 3rd party, or hardware specifications may change. Canonical has already stated that Ubuntu will always be free:
http://www.ubuntu.com/

People lies sometimes :)

Artificial Intelligence
October 3rd, 2009, 08:26 AM
People lies sometimes :)

Not in this case.

Frak
October 3rd, 2009, 04:02 PM
People lies sometimes :)
I can give a pretty good guess that if Canonical switched to a fully commercial model, the Ubuntu foundation would pop-up not very long after.

mpt
October 4th, 2009, 04:08 PM
It's the User Story for "Helen" on the software center wiki page: (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#October%202009)

"Helen is happily using Ubuntu 10.04 when it tells her that Ubuntu 10.10 has been released. Before she upgrades, she has some basic questions. What will the upgrade do? How long will it take? How much will it cost? Will she lose any of her files? What should she do if something goes wrong?"
(Emphasis mine)."

What do they mean "how much will it cost"? Does Canonical have plans to start asking money for ubuntu in the future? Or is this just a stupidly choosen example?

I wrote that user story, so I hope itís not stupid. :P Artificial Intelligence has it right (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8041583&postcount=3): Helen might well have bought Ubuntu from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dsoftware&field-keywords=ubuntu) originally, or bought a netbook with Ubuntu preinstalled. So she has no idea yet that new versions of Ubuntu are free.