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new_to
August 30th, 2009, 02:37 AM
Hello,

I've been using 8.04 for the last year or so till last night, when I upgraded to 8.10. Apparently it's a necessary step on the way to get 9.04. Well, the problems started after finalizing the new installation (8.10) and booting the system, it got stuck and didn't let me login. It froze just after finishing with the initial Ubuntu progress bar.

So, I restarted the machine and went to the menu under "Esc", ran some tests, fixed some problems (I really don't know what :)) and the system was fixed. Then I was able to login, all my staff was there and I could continue the journey to 9.04. Long story short, it wont let me in again after upgrading, and like before it freezes after the initial load bar.

More details:
* It shows weird screen (on the 8.10 is was completely black) like it's f@*&ed up, (sorry but I have no better desc. but here's a picture). http://i28.tinypic.com/2wn7jlt.jpg

* On the way to the menu under "Esc" I noticed that I got [fail] for "activating swap ...", when looking for a solution online I have found the following instructions:
sudo -s
swapoff -a
dd if=/dev/zero of=/host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk bs=1M count=265
mkswap /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk
swapon -a
exit(for some reason I can't this thread any more), when submitting those lines into my system I get that "swap.disk" is not there and/or something like "the disk is busy".

I have no idea what to any more as well as how to test what's causing the system to fail, please advise.

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 07:46 AM
If it's not clear enough please let me know ...

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Can anyone give me direction/hint/something?

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 08:07 PM
OK, I got the drift ... going to install windows so I guess this is post should be marked as resolved (and with the best solution if I may add).

overdrank
August 30th, 2009, 08:21 PM
OK, I got the drift ... going to install windows so I guess this is post should be marked as resolved (and with the best solution if I may add).

Hi and what is the model of the graphics card?
Have you tried booting into recovery mode which is usually the second choice from the grub and using the xfix option. After selecting and running xfix you should be given the option to boot normally.

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Hi and what is the model of the graphics card?
Have you tried booting into recovery mode which is usually the second choice from the grub and using the xfix option. After selecting and running xfix you should be given the option to boot normally.

Hi,

Thanks for your response!

I did try recovery mode, I even wrote it in the initial post but with lame description as I'm not familiar with the exact terminology, sorry.

I also try the xfix option ... it didn't help with 9.04 (I think this option solved the problem with 8.10). The name and model of the video card is: "MSI Radeon HD 3650 Graphics Card - ATi Radeon HD 3650 750MHz - 512MB GDDR3 SDRAM - PCI Express".

brett-
August 30th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Read my post. Same problem. Same graphics card. No solution, even with fglxr. Though I did get further than you in the upgrade. I also have minor graphics problems on a laptop 9.04 fresh install though not as crippling. I think 8.10 is stable, 9.04 is buggy.

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Read my post. Same problem. Same graphics card. No solution, even with fglxr. Though I did get further than you in the upgrade. I also have minor graphics problems on a laptop 9.04 fresh install though not as crippling. I think 8.10 is stable, 9.04 is buggy.

So, how do I go back to 8.10 then?

brett-
August 30th, 2009, 09:23 PM
Pop in 8.10 and re-install. If you have a separate /home partition, specify that the partition manager not format but use as /home. If you don't have separate /home then boot with a live CD and try to copy your data files to another hard drive. The problem will be permission and not having access to sudo from the live CD. Someone here may surely know a work around that. Other method may be to connect the 9.04 HDD to another linux box (or windows with ext3 capability) and move the files.

running_rabbit07
August 30th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Burn the 9.04 intsall and do a clean install.

If there are files you need to back up first, then you can boot via the LiveCD and back them up.

If you dan't already have one, when you do your install be it 8.10 or 9.04 you should make a /home partition to make upgrades and clean installs easier.

Honestly I have yet to here anyone say they upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 without having major issues. I have tried it with 2 different machines and both failed to upgrade.

Please be aware that this is a voluntary help forum. Sometimes on the weekend the person who knows a fix to your problem may not be online.

running_rabbit07
August 30th, 2009, 09:27 PM
Read my post. Same problem. Same graphics card. No solution, even with fglxr. Though I did get further than you in the upgrade. I also have minor graphics problems on a laptop 9.04 fresh install though not as crippling. I think 8.10 is stable, 9.04 is buggy.

Other than the upgrade process, I have had no problems with Jaunty. I have installed it on multiple machines and it has ran greatly.

new_to
August 30th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Pop in 8.10 and re-install. If you have a separate /home partition, specify that the partition manager not format but use as /home. If you don't have separate /home then boot with a live CD and try to copy your data files to another hard drive. The problem will be permission and not having access to sudo from the live CD. Someone here may surely know a work around that. Other method may be to connect the 9.04 HDD to another linux box (or windows with ext3 capability) and move the files.

I would like to keep same settings/applications/etc. as I had it before, if I re-install 8.10 is it going to overwrite all of my data?


Burn the 9.04 intsall and do a clean install.

If there are files you need to back up first, then you can boot via the LiveCD and back them up.

If you dan't already have one, when you do your install be it 8.10 or 9.04 you should make a /home partition to make upgrades and clean installs easier.

Honestly I have yet to here anyone say they upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 without having major issues. I have tried it with 2 different machines and both failed to upgrade.

Please be aware that this is a voluntary help forum. Sometimes on the weekend the person who knows a fix to your problem may not be online.

Thanks, I saw the thread going to the second page each time before I replied, I guess because it's the weekend I have too much spare time and was ignoring the fact experts might have life outside the board :P.

I'll try to look for this LiveCD everybody's talking about and continue from there ... I really don't want to go back to Windows.

new_to
September 2nd, 2009, 04:50 PM
I didn't do anything yet as I can't backup the data, LiveCD wont boot on that machine (I get the same screen), I even tried to disable the Video Card and work with the one on board ... with no success.

Is there any other solution that can "FIX" the current installation? Do you think they're going to release a working version of 9.04?

brett-
September 5th, 2009, 03:32 PM
If the live CD won't boot and you have the optical drive set in the BIOS as first boot device then you may have a problem with your machine. If it is an older machine, clear the CMOS and set optical drive to boot first in BIOS. If that does not work, replace the small battery on the mother board.

I prefer the Ubuntu i386 alternate install CD (you don't need the live overhead as you've seen it all before).