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Riffer
August 25th, 2009, 05:27 PM
I love watching movie trailers, and apple trailers is one of the best places to go to find the latest trailers out. But a few days ago Apple in their wisdom decided to change their java script to check that you're using their codec (or something like that). Needless to say we as Linux users can't access the trailers (without workarounds that may or may not work, they didn't for me).

So I fed up with Apple and they way it does things. They may have a right to set up their website any way it chooses, but I have the right not to go there. So I thought why not find other sites that offer trailers.


http://www.traileraddict.com/

http://www.comingsoon.net/trailers/

Here are 2 that I found, perhaps others could add their favourites.

sandyd
August 25th, 2009, 05:32 PM
For me,
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/2484
still works....

running_rabbit07
August 25th, 2009, 05:37 PM
The second one works great. The first one requires membership. I hardly never watch the trailors anyway. I don't do theaters, because I can't stand the mannerless Langoliers.

JillSwift
August 25th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I find IMDB does the trailer thing "well enough". I mean, they're only just now starting to poke at high-def, but... who needs high-def to just get a look at a movie advert?

sandyd
August 25th, 2009, 05:41 PM
for some reason, after installing
http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/w32codecs.html

everything works???'

i guess that was the problem.
not EVERYBODY knows about its existence

running_rabbit07
August 25th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I find IMDB does the trailer thing "well enough". I mean, they're only just now starting to poke at high-def, but... who needs high-def to just get a look at a movie advert?

I still haven't got my flat panel yet. When we got our taxes back, we had to choose between new air conditioning and new TV. We live in the Las Vegas desert, so A/C won the battle.

Riffer
August 25th, 2009, 05:55 PM
for some reason, after installing
http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/w32codecs.html

everything works???'

i guess that was the problem.
not EVERYBODY knows about its existence

Didn't work for me. Even using agent switcher in FireFox doesn't work for me. From what I understand its a change in Apples Java Script that is causing trouble.

HappinessNow
August 25th, 2009, 06:43 PM
I love watching movie trailers, and apple trailers is one of the best places to go to find the latest trailers out. But a few days ago Apple in their wisdom decided to change their java script to check that you're using their codec (or something like that). Needless to say we as Linux users can't access the trailers (without workarounds that may or may not work, they didn't for me).

So I fed up with Apple and they way it does things. They may have a right to set up their website any way it chooses, but I have the right not to go there. So I thought why not find other sites that offer trailers.


http://www.traileraddict.com/
http://www.comingsoon.net/trailers/Here are 2 that I found, perhaps others could add their favourites.

Hulu is great for watching trailers: http://www.hulu.com/trailers

Also most trailers are on YouTube and/or Google Videos

LowSky
August 25th, 2009, 06:46 PM
don't forget Yahoo, and MSn both have trailers for viewing too. Infact you can stuble around the net there are more places than I can count that show trailers

Ric_NYC
August 25th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Pay back... Apple ignore some users... I ignore Apple.
Never use it for anything.

Youtube,IMDB, etc.

Ric_NYC
August 25th, 2009, 06:53 PM
Just another case of Apple being Apple.
Why the surprise? I don't get it.

running_rabbit07
August 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM
This may well be a problem with a new Java script they are using with no intention of blocking other OS users. There is no need to bash.

Riffer
August 25th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Just another case of Apple being Apple.
Why the surprise? I don't get it.

Not really surprised, its true to form. Just had enough of trying to get workarounds and such from them.

Riffer
August 25th, 2009, 07:38 PM
This may well be a problem with a new Java script they are using with no intention of blocking other OS users. There is no need to bash.

Not trying to "bash" Apple, if apple works for you and you don't mind how they do things then cheers. For me and perhaps others just tired and fed up with the way they do things and I personally would prefer not to have anything to do with Apple.

KiwiNZ
August 25th, 2009, 07:49 PM
tested from my Ubuntu machine . No issues can view Trailers
Tested from my Mandriva machine .. no issues
Tested from my Windows machine... no issues
Tested from my Mac ...no issues

FuturePilot
August 25th, 2009, 07:59 PM
I saw this yesterday.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592665

I can't view anything from Ubuntu here.

Sunflower1970
August 25th, 2009, 09:36 PM
I saw this yesterday.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592665

I can't view anything from Ubuntu here.

I was just going to post this. Saw it on Digg yesterday. So if it doesn't work, yet, it soon will.

Sucks that Apple's doing this, though.

pwnst*r
August 25th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Not trying to "bash" Apple, if apple works for you and you don't mind how they do things then cheers. For me and perhaps others just tired and fed up with the way they do things and I personally would prefer not to have anything to do with Apple.

looks like bashing to me.

hanzomon4
August 25th, 2009, 09:50 PM
I love watching movie trailers, and apple trailers is one of the best places to go to find the latest trailers out. But a few days ago Apple in their wisdom decided to change their java script to check that you're using their codec (or something like that). Needless to say we as Linux users can't access the trailers (without workarounds that may or may not work, they didn't for me).

So I fed up with Apple and they way it does things. They may have a right to set up their website any way it chooses, but I have the right not to go there. So I thought why not find other sites that offer trailers.


http://www.traileraddict.com/

http://www.comingsoon.net/trailers/

Here are 2 that I found, perhaps others could add their favourites.

I really like the first one.. very smooth

Mateo
August 25th, 2009, 09:56 PM
haven't thought about looking for trailers anywhere but youtube for a few years. i forgot the apple site existed.

pwnst*r
August 25th, 2009, 10:11 PM
haven't thought about looking for trailers anywhere but youtube for a few years. i forgot the apple site existed.

i mostly use Apple's trailers because it's got some true hi-def content. youtube's "HD" is laughable.

running_rabbit07
August 25th, 2009, 11:30 PM
Not trying to "bash" Apple, if apple works for you and you don't mind how they do things then cheers. For me and perhaps others just tired and fed up with the way they do things and I personally would prefer not to have anything to do with Apple.

I know. It was someone else I was speaking of.

JillSwift
August 25th, 2009, 11:41 PM
i mostly use Apple's trailers because it's got some true hi-def content. youtube's "HD" is laughable.
YouTube's HD is H.264 packed in an MP4 shell, so is Apple's HD. What difference am I missing?

pwnst*r
August 25th, 2009, 11:58 PM
no youtube HD i've seen looks like 720p, but maybe i'm looking in the wrong places?

JillSwift
August 26th, 2009, 12:01 AM
no youtube HD i've seen looks like 720p, but maybe i'm looking in the wrong places?
Ah. Well, that is where YouTube does something dumb: They scale it down.

I just download the mp4 using "KeepTube", and watch it with mplayer. The big HD videos are full 720p, but scaled to fit the web page layout.

pwnst*r
August 26th, 2009, 12:06 AM
oh, then that's that. i'll stick to apple. not interested in downloading trailers.

running_rabbit07
August 26th, 2009, 12:10 AM
I built my trailer from scratch. Better than HD. And it carries it's weight.

Edit: (Please don't take my dumb joke seriously.)

Honestly. I don't see the big deal. They are movie trailers, not the actual movie.

Regenweald
August 26th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Trailers in HD. can't quite figure out if you want to see a movie unless it's eating all your bandwith.....:rolleyes:

pwnst*r
August 26th, 2009, 12:27 AM
I built my trailer from scratch. Better than HD. And it carries it's weight.

Edit: (Please don't take my dumb joke seriously.)

Honestly. I don't see the big deal. They are movie trailers, not the actual movie.

i didn't, yet a nice mod decided to remove my post.

pwnst*r
August 26th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Trailers in HD. can't quite figure out if you want to see a movie unless it's eating all your bandwith.....:rolleyes:

you'd understand with a 24" monitor.

Regenweald
August 26th, 2009, 12:45 AM
you'd understand with a 24" monitor.

Nah, I'd still be able to figure out if i wanted to see the 30ft tall version without needing a flash vid at fullscreen. The discrete 5" by 3" version is enough for me to mull it over.

pwnst*r
August 26th, 2009, 12:50 AM
fine by me. extra bandwidth costs me nothing. may as well use that fiber connection, right?

JillSwift
August 26th, 2009, 12:51 AM
fine by me. extra bandwidth costs me nothing. may as well use that fiber connection, right?
*envy*

Regenweald
August 26th, 2009, 12:54 AM
fine by me. extra bandwidth costs me nothing. may as well use that fiber connection, right?

all i can do is respect that. Dammit! next time mention fiber before hand :P Show off....

Edit: you cut me deep, real deep....

pwnst*r
August 26th, 2009, 12:55 AM
=p

MikeTheC
August 26th, 2009, 01:12 AM
But in Soviet Russia, Apple has had enough of you! :lolflag:

dandis
August 26th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Apple recently started to identify video players by the user-agent string, in order to ensure people use Quicktime to see the trailers. They said this has been done because of the recently released Avatar trailer, but I'm sure it's not a bandwidth issue, they have plenty of that. They did this because they anticipated a very high number of visitors on their trailers site, and they want those visitors to use Quicktime.

It's their very right to do that, there are plenty other sites to view trailers on. However, keep in mind that spoofing the user-agent is extremely simple.

t0p
August 26th, 2009, 08:44 AM
keep in mind that spoofing the user-agent is extremely simple.

Simple enough that you can explain how?

Johnsie
August 26th, 2009, 10:02 AM
There's a firefox plugin that allows you to change your user agent of your browser... However if the site is looking for the user-agent of the codec then you would need to change code at the codec level, something that would not be quite so easy.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

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Riffer
August 26th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Tried that, followed the instructions in other threads and it was still a no go for me. Even tried the agent switcher in Opera and again no go.

Kind of the point of this thread, if Apple doesn't want to port over Quicktime and makes it difficult if not impossible to view content on their site unless you have their software (which is their right) then perhaps we should take our viewing habits else where. I was hoping that others had sites for Trailers that they would share.

HappyFeet
August 26th, 2009, 05:43 PM
I always just right clicked the video link, (apple trailers) Copy link location, and paste in VLC.

dandis
August 27th, 2009, 09:48 AM
Any decent downloader can allow the user to change the user agent. I used wget for Windows to download the Avatar trailer:


wget "http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_h1080p.mov" -U "QuickTime/7.6 (qtver=7.6;os=Windows NT 6.0 Service Pack 1)" --header "Host: movies.apple.com"

LakesideLoafer
September 5th, 2009, 12:48 PM
I've started using Miro TV (available in the repositories or from www.getmiro.com) and subscribing to Timo's Move Trailers and Timo's HD Movie Trailer. HD Quicktime trailers without the hassle.

hoppipolla
September 5th, 2009, 01:09 PM
I don't like Apple ._.

lol

Riffer
September 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM
I've started using Miro TV (available in the repositories or from www.getmiro.com) and subscribing to Timo's Move Trailers and Timo's HD Movie Trailer. HD Quicktime trailers without the hassle.

That's pretty cool.