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MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Don't know how many people are aware of this, but Flash Drives are up to 128GB at least. ^.^ Holds more then this Labtop I'm using...heck more then this labtop+desktop combined >.< Anywho here is the list of them in Newegg.com

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170522%201309448504&name=128GB

If you think they are expensive from there, just think what there retail price would be! ^.^

chriskin
August 6th, 2009, 04:50 PM
i've read about bigger ones i think, i'm searching for the article now :)

yep here it is
http://www.enet.gr/?i=news.el.episthmh-texnologia&id=67508

it's in greek but the meaning is simple : kingston made a 256gb usb drive

Greg
August 6th, 2009, 04:53 PM
I want an MP3 player with one of those in it... or at least a 64 gb.

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 04:54 PM
i've read about bigger ones i think, i'm searching for the article now :)

yep here it is
http://www.enet.gr/?i=news.el.episthmh-texnologia&id=67508

it's in greek but the meaning is simple : kingston made a 256gb usb drive

I imagine there are larger ones. But the question is where can you get those? ^.^ with newegg the largest ones sold is the 128GB. Bestbuy sells only up to 16GB, Circuit city sells 120GB Solid state drives, not 128GB Flash sticks. (Newegg has up to 512GB solid state drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609415 expensive as heck obviously ^.^)

chriskin
August 6th, 2009, 04:56 PM
I imagine there are larger ones. But the question is where can you get those? ^.^

the article i mentioned,mentions (ugh, two "mentions" together) that there are some shops in athens (greece) where you can ask for it.
i don't know about other countries

by the way i can't see why an external hard-drive that doesn't need ac-power wouldn't be as good (considering it costs hundreds of euros less and it isn't Too big)
i have a 500gb external that fits in my pocket, seems small enough :)

Stevie78
August 6th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Ill wait a year and get one half price... :D

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 05:06 PM
the article i mentioned,mentions (ugh, two "mentions" together) that there are some shops in athens (greece) where you can ask for it.
i don't know about other countries

by the way i can't see why an external hard-drive that doesn't need ac-power wouldn't be as good (considering it costs hundreds of euros less and it isn't Too big)
i have a 500gb external that fits in my pocket, seems small enough :)

Moving parts, makes it more easier to damage.

chriskin
August 6th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Moving parts, makes it more easier to damage.

true , even though some rather ugly falls didn't cause any damage to it (yet)

LowSky
August 6th, 2009, 05:11 PM
great another high capacity USB drive that will not tansfer large files because of poor linux drivers. I don't know about any you but try transfering a 1GB file to any USB Flash drive and it either takes forever or crash.

chriskin
August 6th, 2009, 05:34 PM
great another high capacity USB drive that will not tansfer large files because of poor linux drivers. I don't know about any you but try transfering a 1GB file to any USB Flash drive and it either takes forever or crash.

i transfered 4.5 gbs today to a usb drive and it transfered rather fast and it didn't crash :confused:

sydbat
August 6th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Ill wait a year and get one half price... :DBest idea. Wait for the price to fall substantially before buying.

My question is - if USB flash sticks have a limited amount of read/write before going t*ts-up, what is the lifespan of these solid-state (flash) hard drives? Have they figured out a way to overcome the read/write limitations?

BslBryan
August 6th, 2009, 05:44 PM
That's really cool, and I believe it could be very useful, but considering I can get a 1TB internal for half of the price, I'll pass until the price goes down.

arcdrag
August 6th, 2009, 05:46 PM
No way I would ever need that much data on a thumb drive. Every thumb drive I've ever owned has ended up in the washing machine within 2 months anyway. I never remember to check my pockets before washing clothes.

sydbat
August 6th, 2009, 05:49 PM
No way I would ever need that much data on a thumb drive. Every thumb drive I've ever owned has ended up in the washing machine within 2 months anyway. I never remember to check my pockets before washing clothes.At least you have clean data...

Stan_1936
August 6th, 2009, 05:54 PM
Ill wait a year and get one half price... :D

By then the raging fast USB 3.0 will be out and you'll bet buying old/slow hardware.

BslBryan
August 6th, 2009, 06:05 PM
By then the raging fast USB 3.0 will be out and you'll bet buying old/slow hardware.

http://www.usb-core.co.uk/05-08-2009-looks-like-usb-3-0-motherboard-may-not-happen.html

Stan_1936
August 6th, 2009, 06:11 PM
It's going to happen. Let's say it's delayed 6 months.....Even if you guy a 128 GB flash drive(USB 2.0) after one year(when prices have dropped), you'll be crestfallen 6 months later....

Not worth it when 1 TB HDD+enclosure is currently available for less than half the price of a 128 GB.

Mighty_Joe
August 6th, 2009, 06:48 PM
My question is - if USB flash sticks have a limited amount of read/write before going t*ts-up, what is the lifespan of these solid-state (flash) hard drives? Have they figured out a way to overcome the read/write limitations?

It's not nearly as bad as some people make it. Most drives sold now implement some form of wear leveling to maximize drive life. This guy (http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/114-How-Long-Does-a-Flash-Drive-Last.html) got 90.5 million writes (reads don't cause wear) out of a 1Gb drive. One thing to consider: the larger the drive, the more memory cells the wear leveling has to work with, the longer the drive's life, so buy big.

Tipped OuT
August 6th, 2009, 07:00 PM
I can get one for a dollar at eBay.

sydbat
August 6th, 2009, 07:06 PM
It's not nearly as bad as some people make it. Most drives sold now implement some form of wear leveling to maximize drive life. This guy (http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/114-How-Long-Does-a-Flash-Drive-Last.html) got 90.5 million writes (reads don't cause wear) out of a 1Gb drive. One thing to consider: the larger the drive, the more memory cells the wear leveling has to work with, the longer the drive's life, so buy big.Cool. Thanks for the info. *makes mental note - wait for lower price on 1TB SSD's =P~*

HappyFeet
August 6th, 2009, 07:10 PM
I imagine there are larger ones. But the question is where can you get those? ^.^ with newegg the largest ones sold is the 128GB. Bestbuy sells only up to 16GB, Circuit city sells 120GB Solid state drives, not 128GB Flash sticks. (Newegg has up to 512GB solid state drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609415 expensive as heck obviously ^.^)
Thumbdrives and SSD's are different technologies. While similar, they are still different.

dragos240
August 6th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Aww..... I only have a 32 gb fash drive.

magh-87
August 6th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I have a 8GB flash drive and frankly I don't know what to do with it. I have some smaller ones too (2GB, 4GB) but they usually end up getting lost. I find they're too small to be practical (can't store too much on them) and they're too easy to lose. I probably have 3-5 of these d*mn things and I know the location of 1. If I got one of those it would be more so of a "hey, look at how much data I can have in my pocket".

You're frankly better off just buying a pocket external hard drive. Much cheaper and IMHO more convenient.

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 09:43 PM
I can get one for a dollar at eBay.

Its crappy Chinese junk, I've tryed it with a 8GB Flash Drive, its was dead within the week. I'll never buy from ebay again. Stuff there is more questionable.


Thumbdrives and SSD's are different technologies. While similar, they are still different.

I know. Thats why I address them as Solid state drives and Flash Drives. I just felt like including solid state drives into the conversation ^.^

CJ Master
August 6th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Big deal. SDHC cards can hold 2 terrabytes. :D

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Big deal. SDHC cards can hold 2 terrabytes. :D

Do link!

Tipped OuT
August 6th, 2009, 10:08 PM
Its crappy Chinese junk, I've tryed it with a 8GB Flash Drive, its was dead within the week. I'll never buy from ebay again. Stuff there is more questionable.


I was only kidding. lol I Can't believe you took me seriously. #-o

CJ Master
August 6th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Do link!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC


Byte addressing supported card capacities up to 2GB, whereas sector addressing can theoretically support capacities up to 2 TB (2048 GB).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/SDHC_memory_card_-_8GB.jpeg/200px-SDHC_memory_card_-_8GB.jpeg

Not bad for that little wimpy card.

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 10:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC

They THEORETICALLY support up to 2TB, they don't currently go up to it.

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 10:22 PM
I was only kidding. lol I Can't believe you took me seriously. #-o

I don't normally, but it brought up such bad memories...

CJ Master
August 6th, 2009, 10:24 PM
They THEORETICALLY support up to 2TB, they don't currently go up to it.

Of course... I can't wait till they release it, though. :)

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 10:27 PM
Of course... I can't wait till they release it, though. :)

I can't wait until theres 2TB of ram! I'm looking forward to computers being able to out think me!...oh wait too late they already do. #-o :p

HermanAB
August 6th, 2009, 10:31 PM
1TB flash drives in notebook format are already available.

CJ Master
August 6th, 2009, 10:31 PM
By the way, the 2 TB cards are in development.

http://gizmodo.com/5330606/massive-2tb-memorystick-xc-is-just-insane

MasterNetra
August 6th, 2009, 10:35 PM
By the way, the 2 TB cards are in development and almost out.

http://gizmodo.com/5330606/massive-2tb-memorystick-xc-is-just-insane

A decade from now, we'll laugh at 2TB...:D

CJ Master
August 7th, 2009, 01:25 AM
A decade from now, we'll laugh at 2TB...:D

By the time the average computer user needs more then 2TB the holodeck will be invented. ;)

blithen
August 7th, 2009, 01:33 AM
Ill stick to my 2 gig one that costed about 20 bucks..probably even cheaper now.

CJ Master
August 7th, 2009, 03:45 AM
Ill stick to my 2 gig one that costed about 20 bucks..probably even cheaper now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220414

HermanAB
August 7th, 2009, 04:07 AM
Hmmm, in ten years a one page document won't fit on your 2 GB stick.

In a previous life, a typical Wordstar file was 2KB per page of text. Today, an OpenOffice Writer ODF document with NOTHING in it, is 6.8KB in size and if I save it in MS Word doc format, it becomes 8KB and that is for precisely ZERO characters.

MasterNetra
August 7th, 2009, 04:17 AM
1TB flash drives in notebook format are already available.

Do post a link to wear this is being sold. btw


Hmmm, in ten years a one page document won't fit on your 2 GB stick.

In a previous life, a typical Wordstar file was 2KB per page of text. Today, an OpenOffice Writer ODF document with NOTHING in it, is 6.8KB in size and if I save it in MS Word doc format, it becomes 8KB and that is for precisely ZERO characters.

I doubt doc size will reach that. We may however establish some from of documention that is anything but a document. .brw files (Brain wave files. :p)

RandomJoe
August 7th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Ah, I just have to laugh... Or I might start crying! :p Guess I'm getting old - my thumb drive is a whopping 256MB! :tongue:

I've considered getting another one, but I don't actually use it for personal things - everything I have can share over the network. I just use it at work, and it's still plenty for what I do there...

One of these years I'll run out of other toys to buy, and I'll decide I want to run my entire Linux system off a thumb drive. Then I'll buy one! :lolflag:

MasterNetra
August 7th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Ah, I just have to laugh... Or I might start crying! :p Guess I'm getting old - my thumb drive is a whopping 256MB! :tongue:

I've considered getting another one, but I don't actually use it for personal things - everything I have can share over the network. I just use it at work, and it's still plenty for what I do there...

One of these years I'll run out of other toys to buy, and I'll decide I want to run my entire Linux system off a thumb drive. Then I'll buy one! :lolflag:

well if you want a simply update to it. There are 2GB drives for $6 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170522%201309421173&name=2GB