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YukaToshi
August 1st, 2009, 12:30 PM
This is how I just explained it to my cousin and I just realized how true this is.

I think if your trying to explain to people what linux is like, that would be the best way to do so!

coldReactive
August 1st, 2009, 12:36 PM
No it isn't, ReactOS is. Albiet, very early.

fatality_uk
August 1st, 2009, 12:43 PM
No it isn't, ReactOS is. Albiet, very early.

Eh?

hyperAura
August 1st, 2009, 01:11 PM
well i think that Linux so far has got the performance and everything so i will agree with YukaToshi..

ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/en/about.html)® is a free, modern operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) based on the design of Windows® XP/2003. Written completely from scratch, it aims to follow the Windows® architecture designed by Microsoft from the hardware level right through to the application level. This is not a Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux) based system, and shares none of the unix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix) architecture.
Please bear in mind that ReactOS 0.3.10 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is not recommended for everyday use.

I cant compare with ReactOS since is still in alpha stage..

sharkbite1414
August 1st, 2009, 01:35 PM
ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/en/about.html)® is a free, modern operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) based on the design of Windows® XP/2003. Written completely from scratch, it aims to follow the Windows® architecture designed by Microsoft from the hardware level right through to the application level. This is not a Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux) based system, and shares none of the unix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix) architecture.

Those that mean if us ReactOS I'll have to clean junk files off my Hard Drive and defrag my HDD and clean and defrag the registry and reinstall it every year or so to have a usable OS?:confused:

coldReactive
August 1st, 2009, 01:49 PM
Those that mean if us ReactOS I'll have to clean junk files off my Hard Drive and defrag my HDD and clean and defrag the registry and reinstall it every year or so to have a usable OS?:confused:

At least you'll never have to activate the OS.

Giant Speck
August 1st, 2009, 01:58 PM
Those that mean if us ReactOS I'll have to clean junk files off my Hard Drive and defrag my HDD and clean and defrag the registry and reinstall it every year or so to have a usable OS?:confused:

Ouch. Was that a sentence?

W4l0ck
August 1st, 2009, 02:03 PM
Dude, do not bash linux like that! Linux is a good OS. Not a firefox.

hyperAura
August 1st, 2009, 02:31 PM
@W4l0ck (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=883719) why is firefox not a good web browser??

Warpnow
August 1st, 2009, 02:36 PM
Its bloatware with more leaks and holes than the titanic.

coldReactive
August 1st, 2009, 02:39 PM
Its bloatware with more leaks and holes than the titanic.

Can you give a browser suggestion that isn't Safari, Opera or Chrome then?

Giant Speck
August 1st, 2009, 02:40 PM
Can you give a browser suggestion that isn't Safari, Opera or Chrome then?

And what is wrong with those three browsers?

keiichidono
August 1st, 2009, 03:20 PM
Can you give a browser suggestion that isn't Safari, Opera or Chrome then?

Epiphany Aora Konquerer.

coldReactive
August 1st, 2009, 03:44 PM
And what is wrong with those three browsers?

Chrome is a wannabe,
Safari has an issue with loading old content when coming back to a web page (so does IE)
Opera is bloated if you ask me, just like Firefox.


Epiphany Aora Konquerer.

Arora I just tested out, never heard of it until now. Benchmarked on Peacekeeper, and its benchmark did better than Firefox 3.5, but only by a bit, even though on average, Arora should have a lower benchmark score than Firefox 3.5

Is arora in the ubuntu repos? If not, I can't waste time on building it in Ubuntu. (GetDeb.net doesn't have any (http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=Arora) debs.)

YukaToshi
August 1st, 2009, 04:54 PM
Epiphany Aora Konquerer.

Epiphany = Good
Arora = Sucks
Konqueror = bwahahaha, you cannot be serious ...

kk0sse54
August 1st, 2009, 10:46 PM
Can you give a browser suggestion that isn't Safari, Opera or Chrome then?

elinks, uzbl

eragon100
August 1st, 2009, 10:50 PM
Kazehakase

It's extremely fast, and if you set the UI level to "expert", very feature rich. It's also very stable,
and I have yet to encounter a single webpage which it doesn't render correctly.

Midori

this is a relatively new browser which sucks right now, but might get better since it's still in early development. (it's quite unstable now...)

Right now I recommend every one to use kazehakase, you can install it via add/remove programs :wink:

lisati
August 1st, 2009, 10:50 PM
Its bloatware with more leaks and holes than the titanic.

Ouch! I have rarely had any trouble with Firefox, if at all.

calrogman
August 1st, 2009, 11:40 PM
No it isn't, ReactOS is. Albiet, very early.

If Linux is Firefox, then ReactOS is a combination of Opera and a script which deletes random shared objects from your hard drive, in other words, no one uses it and it doesn't work very well.

Disclaimer: I have used ReactOS, this is from personal experience.

kk0sse54
August 2nd, 2009, 12:27 AM
If Linux is Firefox, then ReactOS is a combination of Opera and a script which deletes random shared objects from your hard drive, in other words, no one uses it and it doesn't work very well.

Disclaimer: I have used ReactOS, this is from personal experience.

And I have used Opera and it's a fantastic browser which people do indeed use. But I guess each to his own opinion.

chucky chuckaluck
August 2nd, 2009, 02:04 AM
this thread is the whitman sampler of recurring discussions.

RATM_Owns
August 2nd, 2009, 02:19 AM
uzbl

:D

Mateo
August 2nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
well i think that Linux so far has got the performance and everything so i will agree with YukaToshi..

ReactOS (http://www.reactos.org/en/about.html)® is a free, modern operating system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) based on the design of Windows® XP/2003. Written completely from scratch, it aims to follow the Windows® architecture designed by Microsoft from the hardware level right through to the application level. This is not a Linux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux) based system, and shares none of the unix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix) architecture.
Please bear in mind that ReactOS 0.3.10 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not feature-complete and is not recommended for everyday use.

I cant compare with ReactOS since is still in alpha stage..

reactos was built from scratch?

swoll1980
August 2nd, 2009, 02:58 AM
Epiphany Aora Konquerer.

Konqueror doesn't even work. Shouldn't that be one of the criteria? That thing renders pages so slow, I could drive to the page designers house, and have him show show me what the page is supposed to look like, before Konqueror finishes.

coldReactive
August 2nd, 2009, 03:06 AM
reactos was built from scratch?

the userland is from wine however, but everything else basically from scratch.

Rumor floating around that Tmax Window (a closed source, propietary operating system) uses the ReactOS Kernel.

Mateo
August 2nd, 2009, 03:16 AM
reactos is not based on linux/unix? really?

Dullstar
August 2nd, 2009, 03:32 AM
No it isn't, ReactOS is. Albiet, very early.

According to the article Linux is NOT Windows (http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm), Firefox is better than IE because it's different than IE. ReactOS is basically a Windows clone without Microsoft. However, I think I might try it once it gets to beta... might. So ReactOS is probably like the Firefox with an IE theme of operating systems. If you think Linux is better than Windows (like me ^_^), isn't it better because it's different?

MasterNetra
August 2nd, 2009, 03:34 AM
reactos is not based on linux/unix? really?

Nope, unless they are really careful and adaptive they are likely to die at some point either under M$'s foot or it'll be useless sense probably by the time its in good working shape windows 12 will be out and all reactOS will be able to run is ancient XP software.

swoll1980
August 2nd, 2009, 03:37 AM
Nope, unless they are really careful and adaptive they are likely to die at some point either under M$'s foot or it'll be useless sense probably by the time its in good working shape windows 12 will be out and all reactOS will be able to run is ancient XP software.

Yeah, that's what I've always thought. By the time it's actually stable, it will only be good for nostalgia purposes.

Giant Speck
August 2nd, 2009, 04:24 AM
Nope, unless they are really careful and adaptive they are likely to die at some point either under M$'s foot or it'll be useless sense probably by the time its in good working shape windows 12 will be out and all reactOS will be able to run is ancient XP software.

ReactOS has been around for eleven years without any major interference from Microsoft. If ReactOS is going to die any time soon, it'll be because its development is lagging too far behind and not because of interference from Microsoft.

YukaToshi
August 2nd, 2009, 08:37 AM
Konqueror doesn't even work. Shouldn't that be one of the criteria? That thing renders pages so slow, I could drive to the page designers house, and have him show show me what the page is supposed to look like, before Konqueror finishes.

:lolflag:

HappinessNow
August 2nd, 2009, 09:22 AM
This is how I just explained it to my cousin and I just realized how true this is.

I think if your trying to explain to people what linux is like, that would be the best way to do so!I always thought of Linux as a kernel not an operating system, perhaps if you said Ubuntu is the Firefox of Operating Systems it would be a more correct analogy.

Blu Fox
August 2nd, 2009, 09:25 AM
Linux is the engine. Ubuntu is the actual car.
Not sure if that analogy made any sense, made it up just now.

YukaToshi
August 2nd, 2009, 09:48 AM
I always thought of Linux as a kernel not an operating system, perhaps if you said Ubuntu is the Firefox of Operating Systems it would be a more correct analogy.

Yeah your right that is what I meant.

OutOfReach
August 2nd, 2009, 09:51 AM
Konqueror doesn't even work. Shouldn't that be one of the criteria? That thing renders pages so slow, I could drive to the page designers house, and have him show show me what the page is supposed to look like, before Konqueror finishes.
Huh, not the case with me. I quite enjoy Konqueror and use it as my main browser. *sigh* I will never understand all this hatred towards dear old Konq. Oh well.

HappinessNow
August 2nd, 2009, 09:57 AM
Huh, not the case with me. I quite enjoy Konqueror and use it as my main browser. *sigh* I will never understand all this hatred towards dear old Konq. Oh well.

King Konq. Returns :P

clarkmkfox
August 2nd, 2009, 02:24 PM
Here is how I sell ubuntu/linux to my friend:

Its like windows but you don't have to worry about virus ever again, that is the most important reason I switch to linux.
YukaToshi, lucky you, my cousins use IE, they don't know what FF is :(