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intense.ego
July 18th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Hey guys,

I'm due for a new PC and to get the most out of my money and my new PC I have decided to build it myself. The thing is, I have never built a PC myself and I'm out of touch with all the components (I know my basics but I definitely don't know all the nitty gritty). I was hoping some of you more competent guys on the forum could help me out.

Basically I'm looking for something pretty advanced but also upgradeable (i.e. future-proof). My budget is around 500 pounds, preferably less. All the components should be bought from the UK and preferably online. I was hoping to get a quad core in there and a good/decent graphics card so that I could do some gaming.

I don't care whether it's AMD or Intel - as long as it is good value for money.

Linux compatibility is not important for this PC.

thanks a lot guys, appreciate the help

mips
July 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM
500pounds should get you quite a lot.

http://www.kikatek.com/
http://www.tekheads.co.uk
http://www.lambda-tek.com
http://www.misco.co.uk/
http://www.amazon.co.uk

Try a Phenom II Black edition CPU.

Skripka
July 18th, 2009, 07:51 PM
Hey guys,

I'm due for a new PC and to get the most out of my money and my new PC I have decided to build it myself. The thing is, I have never built a PC myself and I'm out of touch with all the components (I know my basics but I definitely don't know all the nitty gritty). I was hoping some of you more competent guys on the forum could help me out.

Basically I'm looking for something pretty advanced but also upgradeable (i.e. future-proof). My budget is around 500 pounds, preferably less. All the components should be bought from the UK and preferably online. I was hoping to get a quad core in there and a good/decent graphics card so that I could do some gaming.

I don't care whether it's AMD or Intel - as long as it is good value for money.

Linux compatibility is not important for this PC.

thanks a lot guys, appreciate the help

500 pounds will get you a great deal--future proof? That might be a reach.

The main problem is DDR3 memory and DDR3 compatible CPUs aren't cheap and that is where the future is...you might be able to pull it off with an AMD quad, and no monitor.


I can't help much further because I am not familiar with UK prices of parts.

In all honesty, on a budget-you might be better off with a prebuilt. I doubt you'll save much coin building yourself--you might spend more.

Delever
July 18th, 2009, 09:26 PM
You can get very cheap and capable computer now and not necessarily fastest CPU or RAM. Thing is:
- you don't know if new parts will work with current computer after a year or two
- you won't get very noticeable speed boost by upgrading from 1.7GHz to 2.0GHz, nor by upgrading 4GB ram to 8GB.
- if you want to run games, GPU will be the most noticeable part

I suggest to buy best computer you can for now. In my experience, the most i could save was to stick old hard drive, old GPU, or old DVD Writer into older computer, while upgrading these components for new one. Hell, I had what... (if i am not mistaken) SDRAM, DDRAM, DDR, now DDR2 - all incompatible. Throw socket types in the mix, fact that some motherboards can't run newer CPUs for same socket, and it becomes lottery.

Here is good site if you want to educate yourself before building: http://techreport.com/articles.x/17102/1

Browse for CPU, GPU and RAM comparisons and choose the best for your money and needs.

.Maleficus.
July 18th, 2009, 09:59 PM
In all honesty, on a budget-you might be better off with a prebuilt. I doubt you'll save much coin building yourself--you might spend more.
This. If you're in the market for a ridiculous gaming computer with lights and watercooling and such, building your own is the way to go, but if you're just looking for a future-proof PC with modest hardware you'll get the most for your money from a prebuilt OEM. I know this is in America, but to give you an idea...

This crazy Asus can be had for $750 - still under your 500 pound limit. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366633&st=asus&lp=2&type=product&cp=1&id=1218092152998)

balloooza
July 18th, 2009, 10:14 PM
you want a fast computer, future proof is not what you want, you will only be new and awsome futuristic, in a while the money you spent will not give you the preformance that you paid for.

take this example, much (much) better than the prebuilt combo, and well below your 500 pound limit, this will let you do some serious gaming (not hard core, but serious, but still will get you through the levels glitch free) I own most of the components in this, and newegg has a special save 144 US $ when you buy at once, this will give you power, and you will have money left over to buy a pair of monitors, or a new desk, or somthing like that.

balloooza
July 18th, 2009, 10:23 PM
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Skripka
July 18th, 2009, 10:34 PM
you want a fast computer, future proof is not what you want, you will only be new and awsome futuristic, in a while the money you spent will not give you the preformance that you paid for.

take this example, much (much) better than the prebuilt combo, and well below your 500 pound limit, this will let you do some serious gaming (not hard core, but serious, but still will get you through the levels glitch free) I own most of the components in this, and newegg has a special save 144 US $ when you buy at once, this will give you power, and you will have money left over to buy a pair of monitors, or a new desk, or somthing like that.

I don't think NewEgg ships to UK.

ELD
July 18th, 2009, 10:36 PM
http://www.powerc.co.uk/

Try them, custom build it's where i got mine from, can't go wrong mate!!

mips
July 18th, 2009, 11:17 PM
I don't think NewEgg ships to UK.

You are correct, they don't.

armandh
July 18th, 2009, 11:57 PM
3 recomendations for $, $$, $$$!!!
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/guides/2009/04/ars-technica-system-guide-april-2009-edition.ars


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Blacklightbulb
July 19th, 2009, 12:23 AM
I built a desktop for a friend last year. 250 pounds

AMD .64 bit 2.7 dual core
Asus Motherboard
Nvidia 9600 I think 128mb ram
2 Gig Ram

No case
Old HD
...etc

But I live in a rather expensive country.