IPv4 Internet Apocalypse?

[pi.boy.travis]

I recently setup my own proxy server, and it got me thinking. . . what happens if we run out of IPv4 addresses? Correct my if I'm wrong, but there are around 4.3 billion possible IPv4 addresses. There are about 6.7 billion people alive, and with very large countries like India that are developing at breakneck speed. . . What are we to do?

[RiceMonster]

ipv6?

[Skripka]

What are to do?

#pacman -Syu IPv6

As root of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6

[Skripka]

ipv6?

My post is better.

[pi.boy.travis]

I suppose IPv6 will delay the issue, but what happens when there are quadrillions of people? I suppose we should tackle inter-planetary internet access first. . .

[RiceMonster]

My post is better.

not possible

[jelle_]

What are to do?

#pacman -Syu IPv6

As root of course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6


Ubuntu uses apt, not pacman

[RoestVrijStaal]

I suppose IPv6 will delay the issue, but what happens when there are quadrillions of people? I suppose we should tackle inter-planetary internet access first. . .
IPv8?

[RiceMonster]

Ubuntu uses apt, not pacman

http://www.sustainabilityninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/captain-obvious.jpg

[Skripka]

http://www.sustainabilityninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/captain-obvious.jpg

Game, Set, Match.

[Skripka]

Ubuntu uses apt, not pacman

Well then, You'd better hope that Ubuntu Naughty Nightingale does not get released the week before IPv4 runs out-shouldn't ya.

[pi.boy.travis]

What about the world's root domain name servers? Couldn't they become so bogged down that the entire Internet would cease to function? I suppose caching by local DNS servers could alleviate the problem. . . There are so many threats to the Internet's continued existence, it's a wonder it's working right now!

[munky99999]

I recently setup my own proxy server, and it got me thinking. . . what happens if we run out of IPv4 addresses?
we already have technically.


Correct my if I'm wrong, but there are around 4.3 billion possible IPv4 addresses. There are about 6.7 billion people alive, and with very large countries like India that are developing at breakneck speed. . . What are we to do?
um... http://img5.travelblog.org/Photos/54004/298757/f/2764249-mud-huts-0.jpg

They dont have ips.

Furthermore, natting people makes it possible for 1 public ip to be natted by possibly even 200 people.

So just by that... you multiplied the # of ip4 address limits by 200x

so the 4.3billion just became 860 billion ip4 on the net.

When the world gets close to that #... we can then goto ip6.

[ghindo]

I have enjoyed this thread thoroughly :popcorn:

[pi.boy.travis]

Speaking of IPv6, how do I get an IPv6 address? Does my ISP have to provide it?

[JordyD]

What about the world's root domain name servers? Couldn't they become so bogged down that the entire Internet would cease to function? I suppose caching by local DNS servers could alleviate the problem. . . There are so many threats to the Internet's continued existence, it's a wonder it's working right now!

They don't just have like 5 or 6, as far as I'm aware. They just increase the amount they have if there is too much load. Not all traffic needs to be given to one server.

[JordyD]

I have enjoyed this thread thoroughly :popcorn:

Yes, it has been rather amusing, hasn't it?

[broquea]

I suppose IPv6 will delay the issue, but what happens when there are quadrillions of people? I suppose we should tackle inter-planetary internet access first. . .

Seeing as there are ~roughly~ 18 quintillion IPv6 addresses in a /64, and 65536 /64s in a /48, and 65536 /48s in a /32, and then however many /32s in the only /3 that we are currently using right now of available IPv6, You won't run out of IPv6 anytime in your lifetime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipv6#Larger_address_space

[Rainstride]

What about the world's root domain name servers? Couldn't they become so bogged down that the entire Internet would cease to function? I suppose caching by local DNS servers could alleviate the problem. . . There are so many threats to the Internet's continued existence, it's a wonder it's working right now!

no, and even if it could, we always have the option of de-centralising the internet from isp controlled systems to localised interconnections (somewhat similar to the power grid.).

the only threat to the internet are governments and corporations. if they upgraded all the hardware to the latest and greatest there wouldn't be an issue.

[arcdrag]

I suppose IPv6 will delay the issue, but what happens when there are quadrillions of people? I suppose we should tackle inter-planetary internet access first. . .

IPv6 uses 128 bits...which leaves room for quadrillions of quadrillions of addresses, or as Beej's Guide to Network Programming (http://www.beej.us/guide/bgnet/) puts it "That's like a million IPv4 Internets for every single star in the Universe."

[munky99999]

ip6 is going to run out of addresses pretty soon. After all... all our socks and t-shirts need public ip addresses. My dog was also just complaining how he doesn't like the public ip his collar got. I told him I would personally go to the IETF with his complaint.


):P

[tubezninja]

http://stashbox.org/570687/Picture%202.png (http://www.ipv6forum.com/ipv4_exhaustion.php)

Ponder your 700 remaining days... NOW. :D

[RD1]

Hey! What happened to IPv5?!?! :-s

[JillSwift]

The horror... the horror.

[days_of_ruin]

Hey! What happened to IPv5?!?! :-s

We don't talk about that.

[munky99999]

Hey! What happened to IPv5?!?! :-s

it got called names and wasnt allowed to play with the big boys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ipv5

stolen for some standard back when ip4 wasnt ever going to run out.

[munky99999]

The secret of star trek is that the fighting forces are actually telecommunication companies fighting over who controls the ip6 networks because they ran out.

[pi.boy.travis]

The secret of star trek is that the fighting forces are actually telecommunication companies fighting over who controls the ip6 networks because they ran out.


I guess I was wrong. . . The Internet is not just some truck to dump things on, but is in-fact a series of tubes!!!

[lespaul_rentals]

It's called NAT.