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CJ Master
July 12th, 2009, 03:37 AM
So, when do you think that computers will mature so much they're like the ones in Next Generation? :D

For example:

"Computer, show a model of the hydrogen atom"

"Computer, show pictures of Cambridge."

"Computer, make me a sandwich. Ok, fine, sudo make me a sandwich."

And all of those would work! *ok, maybe not the last one, but...*

I'm predicting 10 years until it's semi-common place for geeks to have a system like this, and 50 years until it's common place and almost as good as Next Generation.

hansdown
July 12th, 2009, 03:49 AM
Actually, the replicators would make the sandwich.

monsterstack
July 12th, 2009, 03:50 AM
Whilst some operations in Star Trek are apparently made easier by barking instructions at the computer, and awful lot of the time it involves about four zillion key-presses instead.


Picard: scan for lifeforms.
Wesley: Aye sir... [ presses about four thousand buttons, and even though each key press makes a loud beeping sound, NOBODY is annoyed or complains about it. ] There are two Klingons aboard sir.

What is that horrible operating system? Who the hell designed it? 24th Century terminals could probably get the job done in less key-strokes:


wesleycrusher@enterprise:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen

Life signs aboard vessel 0x77882 (4pts starboard bow)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Species | Condition | Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------
Klingon male | Stable | Likes cats
Klingon male | Critical | Hates cats
Feline male | Hungry |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total humanoid life: 2
Total other life: 1
Total lifesigns: 3

earthpigg
July 12th, 2009, 03:56 AM
"Computer, make me a sandwich. Ok, fine, sudo make me a sandwich."


pfft, you would only need root access to have it replicate you something toxic or dangerous.

non-admin users would certainly have access to the sandwitch makefile.

noob.

ubudog
July 12th, 2009, 04:09 AM
Whilst some operations in Star Trek are apparently made easier by barking instructions at the computer, and awful lot of the time it involves about four zillion key-presses instead.


Picard: scan for lifeforms.
Wesley: Aye sir... [ presses about four thousand buttons, and even though each key press makes a loud beeping sound, NOBODY is annoyed or complains about it. ] There are two Klingons aboard sir.

What is that horrible operating system? Who the hell designed it? 24th Century terminals could probably get the job done in less key-strokes:


wesleycrusher@enterprise:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen

Life signs aboard vessel 0x77882 (4pts starboard bow)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Species | Condition | Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------
Klingon male | Stable | Likes cats
Klingon male | Critical | Hates cats
Feline male | Hungry |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total humanoid life: 2
Total other life: 1
Total lifesigns: 3


Yes that would be much easier.

MikeTheC
July 12th, 2009, 04:19 AM
wesleycrusher@enterprise:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen

Life signs aboard vessel 0x77882 (4pts starboard bow)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Species | Condition | Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------
Klingon male | Stable | Likes cats
Klingon male | Critical | Hates cats
Feline male | Hungry |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total humanoid life: 2
Total other life: 1
Total lifesigns: 3


+1 for that.

Oh, and I concur. All authorized users would have access to the sandwich makefile. Riker, however, is the only one with access to the makeoutfile, which is alright because it only works on one directory named ~/troideanna .

steveneddy
July 12th, 2009, 04:30 AM
pfft, you would only need root access to have it replicate you something toxic or dangerous.

non-admin users would certainly have access to the sandwitch makefile.

noob.

But not if it was the Captain's computer you were addressing.

jcwmoore
July 12th, 2009, 04:34 AM
10 years for this, 50 for it to be available to all, i'd buy that. Microsoft Sync (i know it is from microsoft, but get over it...) gives people a limited bit of that. "Play Artist ..." that is how Star Trek computers work and now how some cars work.

moster
July 12th, 2009, 09:20 AM
I like this part... Enterprise encounter a hostile ship. Everybody is STANDING in front of their computers. Hostile ship fires at enterprise. Enterprise take the hit and people standing at computers are pushing random buttons with ther body from the blast and at last falling on the floor. One of them conclude (from the floor) that shield are at 70%. Pickard is steady in his chair...

I mean come on... :D

stinger30au
July 12th, 2009, 11:17 AM
So, when do you think that computers will mature so much they're like the ones in Next Generation? :D

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you could make it look like the "lcars" system on ST:TNG if you make a desktop theme for ubuntu

that would be cool

lisati
July 12th, 2009, 11:20 AM
+1 for that.

Oh, and I concur. All authorized users would have access to the sandwich makefile. Riker, however, is the only one with access to the makeoutfile, which is alright because it only works on one directory named ~/troideanna .

Don't tell Worf - it might cause tension.

tacantara
July 12th, 2009, 11:28 AM
you could make it look like the "lcars" system on ST:TNG if you make a desktop theme for ubuntu

that would be cool

I thought that concept sounded familiar. Here's an Ubuntu forum link that will give you specifics on a ST/TNG theme: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960721

Live long and prosper (sorry for going "old school" there) :)

Mehall
July 12th, 2009, 11:33 AM
I think someone (not me, I can;t code) should make an LCARS window manager ;)

BuffaloX
July 12th, 2009, 11:39 AM
Dragon NaturallySpeaking was available about the mid 90s, nothing much has happened since then.

Phones and GPS's accept voice commands for practical reasons.

I think we need to learn to be comfortable speaking to computers, and computers need to be better at interpreting requests.

It could be cool for smart-homes, like "lights on" or "music" commands.

CJ Master
July 13th, 2009, 12:04 AM
pfft, you would only need root access to have it replicate you something toxic or dangerous.

non-admin users would certainly have access to the sandwitch makefile.

noob.

Ah - but not if your intruder with no privileges! :D

CharmyBee
July 13th, 2009, 12:49 AM
I think someone (not me, I can;t code) should make an LCARS window manager ;)
Same. When I command my computer, I want to be Picard.

_Goblin
July 13th, 2009, 12:54 AM
I wouldnt like to put a date on it, but if this alleged Microsoft Patent has anything to do with it, the holodeck will most certainly be running Windows:

http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/microsoft-to-boldly-blow/

Just a little story I ran a while ago that I thought may be of interest here.

drawkcab
July 13th, 2009, 03:46 AM
If it doesn't sound like majel barrett, I don't want it.

Revolutionary101
July 13th, 2009, 03:56 AM
I don't think we will see supercomputers doing this until around 2025 and consumer computers not till around 2050.

hanzomon4
July 13th, 2009, 04:24 AM
quantum computing?

CJ Master
July 13th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Certainly there is a computer today where u can say and get pictures of Cambridge?

Sure - I can type in Cambridge on wikipedia and get pictures, but that's not the point. I want to TELL computers that I want pictures of it.

Plus there's many other useful situations for talking to a computer.

cprofitt
July 13th, 2009, 04:49 AM
Whilst some operations in Star Trek are apparently made easier by barking instructions at the computer, and awful lot of the time it involves about four zillion key-presses instead.

Picard: scan for lifeforms.
Wesley: Aye sir... [ presses about four thousand buttons, and even though each key press makes a loud beeping sound, NOBODY is annoyed or complains about it. ] There are two Klingons aboard sir.What is that horrible operating system? Who the hell designed it? 24th Century terminals could probably get the job done in less key-strokes:


wesleycrusher@enterprise:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen

Life signs aboard vessel 0x77882 (4pts starboard bow)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Species | Condition | Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------
Klingon male | Stable | Likes cats
Klingon male | Critical | Hates cats
Feline male | Hungry |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total humanoid life: 2
Total other life: 1
Total lifesigns: 3


Sorry... my computer appears not to have the program installed. Can you tell me if the uss-scan is the correct program.



drwho@tardis:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen
The program 'scan' can be found in the following packages:
* dvb-apps
* mailutils-mh
* nmh
Try: sudo apt-get install uss-scan
bash: scan: command not found

CJ Master
July 13th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Sorry... my computer appears not to have the program installed. Can you tell me if the uss-scan is the correct program.



drwho@tardis:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen
The program 'scan' can be found in the following packages:
* dvb-apps
* mailutils-mh
* nmh
Try: sudo apt-get install uss-scan
bash: scan: command not found


Yes, it's short for uss-enterprise-scan :D

hanzomon4
July 13th, 2009, 06:51 AM
Wait that's a real command?

Kopachris
July 13th, 2009, 08:39 AM
And yet, with the air thick with geekdom, nobody pointed it out? LCARS stands for "Library Computer Access/Retrieval System", as in, parse a request and get the information. Once voice-recognition is perfected, you could simply mash that together with Google, Wikipedia, the Internet Archive, and Wolfram|Alpha to get your LCARS. Add a few programs (scan, wget, nmap, wireshark, cat, less, etc.) and a nice theme (using Swiss 911 Ultra Compressed). Now all that's left is a trinary-based computing system with a quaternary-based storage system. :guitar:

zugu
July 13th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Voice recognition might get better and better, but voice commands will never completely replace other types of interfaces.

sydbat
July 13th, 2009, 01:22 PM
Voice recognition might get better and better, but voice commands will never completely replace other types of interfaces.And then I can see the posts...

"What do you mean I have to use the keyboard? I never had to in <insert monopolistic OS here>!! This backwards, ubergeek hobby OS will never get anywhere!!"

automaton26
July 13th, 2009, 01:35 PM
I always wanted the ST viewscreen to show a Windows BSOD whenever that bald goblin guy said "Engage"...

benj1
July 13th, 2009, 02:55 PM
Yes, it's short for uss-enterprise-scan :D

i doubt they would have a special scan just for the enterprise (im assuming they follow an open source development model and don't require licenses for different ships)

according to the man page its just United Space Ship's Scan


scan(1) scan(1)

NAME
scan - scanner for intergalatic starships

SYNOPSIS
scan -tso

DESCRIPTION
scan (formerly United Space Ship's Scan) is a scan utility,
based on emacs starship scan mode.


LIMITATIONS
scan is currently unable to detect cloaked romulan warbirds.

ISSUES
reverse polarity of the inverse transverse plasma injector coolant
array manifold may lead to unpredictable results

SEE ALSO
warp(1), aliens(2), vim(1)

12 January 2165



also does anyone know what this program 'it so' that capt picard was fond of installing ?

CharmyBee
July 13th, 2009, 05:50 PM
And then I can see the posts...

"What do you mean I have to use the keyboard? I never had to in <insert monopolistic OS here>!! This backwards, ubergeek hobby OS will never get anywhere!!"


"Computer! Ah... hello computer!"

"Just use the keyboard."

"A keyboard....how quaint!"

benj1
July 13th, 2009, 06:13 PM
"Computer! Ah... hello computer!"

"Just use the keyboard."

"A keyboard....how quaint!"

i believe this was covered in the voyage home

scotty: computer..... computer
(bones points to mouse, scotty picks it up and uses it as a microphone)

then inexplicably is able to use a mac SE and keyboard expertly, without any further problems

MasterNetra
July 13th, 2009, 06:33 PM
wesleycrusher@enterprise:~$ scan -t life -s near-vessel -o mainscreen

Life signs aboard vessel 0x77882 (4pts starboard bow)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Species | Condition | Notes
-----------------------------------------------------------
Klingon male | Stable | Likes cats
Klingon male | Critical | Hates cats
Feline male | Hungry |
-----------------------------------------------------------
Total humanoid life: 2
Total other life: 1
Total lifesigns: 3


Am I the only one who caught the joke in the species/condition/Notes listings? :lolflag:

CJ Master
July 13th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Am I the only one who caught the joke in the species/condition/Notes listings? :lolflag:

You mean how the Female klingon wasn't counted as a humanoid? =P

CJ Master
July 14th, 2009, 05:33 AM
Oh btw, I don't mean THIS (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Data) computer.

Kopachris
July 14th, 2009, 06:24 AM
And then I can see the posts...

"What do you mean I have to use the keyboard? I never had to in <insert monopolistic OS here>!! This backwards, ubergeek hobby OS will never get anywhere!!"

"What? A keyboard? Sorry, I didn't take the 'Turn of the Millennium Technology' course in school."