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lovinglinux
June 30th, 2009, 05:46 PM
The Firefox question week is over, with a total of 45 threads regarding Firefox 3.5 release, repository updates, installation methods and Shiretoko name complaints :)

There are a lot more threads if we consider those requesting support for solutions about issues encountered after the installation. But those are most of the time very specific, unlike for example all the threads about recurring problems with multiple flash plugin installations. So I decided to no include them on the survey.

Threads (some were merged)

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1199878
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200876
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200717
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200730
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200446
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200779
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200694
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200466
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200687
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201052
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201049
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200835
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7544725
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201476
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201529
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202093
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202181
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202635
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202752
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202768
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202927
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203615
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203531
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204082
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204002
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205065
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205331
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205530
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205553
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204894
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203283
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205241
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205799
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205722
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205961
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205995
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206185
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206306
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206313
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206410
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206576
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206618
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206860
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206960
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206960

The 4 most popular methods of installation of Firefox 3.5 (Psychocats, Ubuntuzilla, Repository, Shiretoko/Swiftfox) are available in the "Install Other Versions" section of the Firefox optimization and troubleshooting thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=FOT).

There is also a detailed explanation of each installation method provided, comparing the most important differences. I personally tested all of them and they work like a charm, but I recommend methods 1 (Psychocats) and 2 (Ubuntuzilla).


Coming soon!

The Google Chrome question week... :lol:



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lykwydchykyn
June 30th, 2009, 05:55 PM
It depends; does this count as one?

itreius
June 30th, 2009, 06:35 PM
29

mcduck
June 30th, 2009, 06:49 PM
I think I've already seen 12 or so threads about this. I place my bets on the ">50"-option. :D

lovinglinux
June 30th, 2009, 09:20 PM
It depends; does this count as one?

:lol: no it doesn't.

RD1
June 30th, 2009, 09:39 PM
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200730&highlight=firefox


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200687&highlight=firefox


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1199878&highlight=firefox


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200779&highlight=firefox

that I've found, so far.

LookTJ
June 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM
33

HavocXphere
June 30th, 2009, 10:01 PM
50+

Thats the safest bet. Cause one can always make that bet come right.:tongue:

lovinglinux
June 30th, 2009, 11:24 PM
that I've found, so far.

Thanks, I have merged them with my list.

steveneddy
July 1st, 2009, 02:23 AM
Anything new that happens around here, even though we have been talking about it for weeks or months and it actually be old news in certain circles (*take breath) will be posted and threaded to death until the mods are tired of merging threads and we are tired of answering the same questions again and again.

I mean - over 50

lovinglinux
July 1st, 2009, 06:32 AM
Anything new that happens around here, even though we have been talking about it for weeks or months and it actually be old news in certain circles (*take breath) will be posted and threaded to death until the mods are tired of merging threads and we are tired of answering the same questions again and again.

I mean - over 50

Being a mod on these forums must be a hard work :)

Laibcoms
July 1st, 2009, 09:08 AM
Being a mod on these forums must be a hard work :)

They can choose to add a small plugin to the forums wherein it will merge all topics with a particular set of words and/or phrases ;) Main/First post only tho :p not replies hehe.

VCoolio
July 1st, 2009, 01:02 PM
There is another one:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7544725
and counting. :popcorn:

Also I was on irc #ubuntu yesterday and within one hour there were at least 10 questions on how to get ff 3.5 (I didn't follow full time). Ubottu was very busy replying to !ff3.5. Amazing.

DustofDust
July 1st, 2009, 01:56 PM
i say 50+

im myself here because i look after 3.5 in jaunty... LOL

VCoolio
July 1st, 2009, 03:14 PM
And another
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201529

lovinglinux
July 1st, 2009, 04:43 PM
And another
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1201529

Thank you. I have included it in the first port.

VCoolio
July 2nd, 2009, 09:28 PM
We're almost half way if you recognize these:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7546009 (especially the 2nd post in the thread).
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7546601
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1202377
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7552343

Edit:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7553282

zero777zero
July 5th, 2009, 12:43 AM
can someone explain why a deb cant be made of firefox 3.5, i assume if it was possible i would have seen it by now via forums or google

lovinglinux
July 5th, 2009, 01:20 AM
can someone explain why a deb cant be made of firefox 3.5, i assume if it was possible i would have seen it by now via forums or google

I think due to license issues. I have compiled Firefox myself and I have a deb, but I used the option --enable-official-branding to have the same name and logo. So I guess I can't distribute this. If I didn't use that option, then maybe I could distribute it, but it would be called Shiretoko.

DustofDust
July 5th, 2009, 05:39 AM
when does the ubuntu update package come?

ibutho
July 5th, 2009, 05:54 AM
Probably more than 50. It seems very common on this site for members to post new threads without first searching for possible solutions in previous threads, so I expect a lot of Firefox related threads this week.

zero777zero
July 6th, 2009, 02:07 AM
I think due to license issues. I have compiled Firefox myself and I have a deb, but I used the option --enable-official-branding to have the same name and logo. So I guess I can't distribute this. If I didn't use that option, then maybe I could distribute it, but it would be called Shiretoko.

one little licensing issue, lots of grief

on a side note, i'm embarrassed ubuntu hasnt passed 3.5 through yet, seriously, SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY^2

scouser73
July 6th, 2009, 10:35 AM
So many people asking about FF 3.5 and being impatient, seriously guys chill out.

lovinglinux
July 6th, 2009, 02:15 PM
So many people asking about FF 3.5 and being impatient, seriously guys chill out.

I'm wondering how is gonna be when Google Chrome for Linux (final version) comes out? The forums will crash. Not to mention people complaining they want Google Chrome, not that "cheap imitation" called Chromium :)

automaton26
July 6th, 2009, 02:34 PM
I've tried FF 3.5 under Windows and, surprise, surprise, it's crashed on several occasions.

But stability on my Kubuntu box is far more important, so I'll happily wait - what's the hurry ppl ?

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Only a few hours to end the poll. If you selected the option >50 you are just 6 posts way from the correct result :)

DustofDust
July 8th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Only a few hours to end the poll. If you selected the option >50 you are just 6 posts way from the correct result :)

because you excluded some :P ;)

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 01:23 AM
because you excluded some :P ;)

I just didn't included those complaining about problems after install :) Should I include those? They are not "recurring threads".

Anyway, contributions to list other posts are very welcome ;)

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 10:51 AM
The Firefox question week is over, with a total of 45 threads regarding Firefox 3.5 release, repository updates, installation methods and Shiretoko name complaints :)

There are a lot more threads if we consider those requesting support for solutions about issues encountered after the installation. But those are most of the time very specific, unlike for example all the threads about recurring problems with multiple flash plugin installations. So I decided to no include them on the survey.

Threads (some were merged) (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7540502&postcount=1)

The 4 most popular methods of installation of Firefox 3.5 (Psychocats, Ubuntuzilla, Repository, Shiretoko/Swiftfox) are available in the "Install Other Versions" section of the Firefox optimization and troubleshooting thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=FOT).

There is also a detailed explanation of each installation method provided, comparing the most important differences. I personally tested all of them and they work like a charm, but I recommend methods 1 (Psychocats) and 2 (Ubuntuzilla).


Coming soon!

The Google Chrome question week... :lol:



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DustofDust
July 8th, 2009, 11:22 AM
what the people really want is ff 3.5 in the repos and that it works like a standard update. i do not understand what ubuntu is waiting for...

and about chrome, any version available without phone home and such?

Closed_Port
July 8th, 2009, 11:27 AM
what the people really want is ff 3.5 in the repos and that it works like a standard update. i do not understand what ubuntu is waiting for...


First off, 3.5 is in the repos and can be easily installed.

Second, I might not be people, but I for one don't want it to work like a standard update. I want it to be easily installable alongside 3.0 and that's what Ubuntu provides.

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 11:39 AM
First off, 3.5 is in the repos and can be easily installed.

Second, I might not be people, but I for one don't want it to work like a standard update. I want it to be easily installable alongside 3.0 and that's what Ubuntu provides.

I agree. For instance, Firefox 3.5 breaks my extension FoxMediaCenter (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10991) and didn't have time or patience too fix the code, so I still can benefit from the speed of 3.5 without loosing the ability to run my extension when I need it.

DustofDust
July 8th, 2009, 12:00 PM
3.5 breaks for me plain text to link and bookmark duplicate detector and the update to 2 or 3 broke conquery...

loosing plugins is part of the game and this is the downside of the plugin system and not doing a browser which addresses the power user.

i also test midori and epiphany and hopefully soon chrome without phone home.

btw. you should try http://www.tvbrowser.org/

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 12:23 PM
btw. you should try http://www.tvbrowser.org/

Thanks for the tip. I have already tried that, but nothing beats the software that does exactly want you want and looks like you want ;)


3.5 breaks for me plain text to link and bookmark duplicate detector and the update to 2 or 3 broke conquery...

loosing plugins is part of the game and this is the downside of the plugin system and not doing a browser which addresses the power user.

Aside from my own extension, which is ironic, all my extensions are working perfectly. I have disabled the compatibility check and even the only two not officially updated (TagSifter and TerminalRun) also work.

DustofDust
July 8th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Thanks for the tip. I have already tried that, but nothing beats the software that does exactly want you want and looks like you want ;)

you are welcome, personal i prefer for every task a separate application.

about your foxmediacenter

- FoxMediaCenter performs several actions using shell scripts included in the extension code. The developer is not aware if this could create security holes. So use it at your own risk.

- In order to schedule recordings and reminders, the extension creates a file (.change.cron) in the user home directory and and add it to the crontab when the extension loads. This could override your personal cron jobs.

such sounds terrible for me. call me paranoid but security has for me the highest priority.


Aside from my own extension, which is ironic, all my extensions are working perfectly. I have disabled the compatibility check and even the only two not officially updated (TagSifter and TerminalRun) also work.

i know about the compatibility check but i prefer supported solutions...

lovinglinux
July 8th, 2009, 03:35 PM
such sounds terrible for me. call me paranoid but security has for me the highest priority.

I agree with the paranoia, but that is basically to cover my *** :)

Now seriously, I don't even know if there are any risks. It could be my own paranoia kicking in, but I just wanted to let people be aware of the possibility and reasons.

I have created the extension for my personal use, but decided to release it on Mozilla because it would be selfish to keep it only for me. Nevertheless, I released it as an experimental extension and don't have plans to request Mozilla's review. Maybe a good programmer would grab it someday and release a new one, more efficient and functional.

It works for me. It could be better, but I still prefer to use it, then any other EPG out there, specially those using Java :)