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user sam
June 23rd, 2009, 06:07 AM
Well, hello again. A while back I posted about setting up Ubuntu on a slow old computer(128mb ram, 633MHz processor and an addiction to its original operating system). Well, youll be pleased to know that it works just dandy with icewm and rox-filer(for desktop icons). My problem is with rox. You can get a desktop by typing rox -S in a command prompt. I would be very happy if I could start it automatically at login. It just makes for something a little more familiar to us ex windows and mac users. So, if you know what im talking about, please help.

Brandon Williams
June 23rd, 2009, 03:26 PM
How are you starting icewm? I assume it's with either a .xsession or a .xinitrc file. Post the contents of that file and we can tell you what needs to be modified.

I expect that the file will end up looking something like this:

#!/bin/sh
rox -S &
icewm
That's just a guess about the command to start icewm.

user sam
June 23rd, 2009, 05:18 PM
where would I find these files? the only files by that name look nothing like that.:confused:

Mark76
June 23rd, 2009, 07:28 PM
ROX desktop has its own session manager (here (http://roscidus.com/desktop/ROX-Session)). Install zeroinstall injector from the repos, then run it and drag the 0install link to the window that pops up. It'll cache the program and its dependencies (there are two). Go into /usr/share/applications and click on the zeroinstall-manage-desktop file, then click on the run button next to the entry for ROX-Session (which should be the only one) and click on Set Up Rox. Choose Set Up for User or Add to Login (the latter requires you to set up a root password first. Open a terminal and type sudo passwd. It'll prompt you to input a new passwd for root (note: this is not the same as your sudo password). Create one and then retype it when it asks).

When you've set up ROX-Session do as it says and then when you log back in you'll either be running ROX-Session by default (the first option), or it'll be one of the session choices alongside Gnome and whatever else. When it starts it'll ask you if you want to download OroboROX. Say no and then type icewm into the CLI box that appears. It should then remember your choice of window manager until you change it.

kerry_s
June 23rd, 2009, 07:37 PM
where would I find these files? the only files by that name look nothing like that.:confused:

icewm-session uses a startup file, you may need to create it.
http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-4.html

user sam
June 23rd, 2009, 08:43 PM
Okay, im really confused now. There isnt a way to run a program at login? Cant I just get the command rox -S to run at login?

kerry_s
June 23rd, 2009, 08:54 PM
Okay, im really confused now. There isnt a way to run a program at login? Cant I just get the command rox -S to run at login?

yes there is, just create the startup file like the icewm says to do & it will start with icewm.

i'm going to assume since your using light programs, you'll probably be using leafpad as your editor.

leafpad ~/.icewm/startup
put:
#!/bin/sh
rox -S &

now make it executable> chmod +x ~/.icewm/startup

thats it should start with icewm from then on.

user sam
June 23rd, 2009, 09:23 PM
Alright. I got it. I created a .xprofile file in my home directory and it says

#! /usr/bin/sh
rox -S &
icewm
exit

or something like that. the exit at the end seems to have fixed a problem where i had to logout twice. Thanks!
Oh, and my default text editor is actually nano. I should probably get leafpad though. nano is easier to use sudo with in my opinion. fewer letters.

kerry_s
June 23rd, 2009, 10:34 PM
alright, whatever works for you.
remember, graphical programs use "gksudo", so it would be:
gksudo leafpad
gksudo rox
etc...

you know you can save more resources, not using icons & backgrounds. a simple file manager is "gpe-filemanager", it doesn't do hidden folders/files but you can use "mc" in the terminal for that.

i did a build on a ibmt20 with 128mb ram(120mb -vid), i used the lightest of everything else since the main program would be the web browser(used epiphany).

Brandon Williams
June 23rd, 2009, 10:45 PM
I don't think you want to do this in ~/.xprofile, which tends to be applied very early in session setup and is sourced, not executed, so that other session startup activity can continue. That's probably why you have to log out twice.

Did you try putting it in ~/.icewm/startup, as suggested above?

user sam
June 24th, 2009, 05:11 AM
OK, that works too. I didn't understand at first. The thing works like a charm now! Thanks.

kerry_s
June 24th, 2009, 05:25 AM
yeah, you might want to read through that icewm manual when you have time, it will help you get the most out of icewm. icewm has a lot of features that you can take advantage of, to make working with it smoother & faster.

kristan2000
June 28th, 2009, 05:59 AM
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Mark76
June 28th, 2009, 07:33 AM
Erm.

Isn't that from the ROX Desktop site? :?

yanom
June 29th, 2009, 10:59 PM
but you can use "mc" in the terminal for that.

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