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Metallion
June 16th, 2009, 10:59 AM
We all know Opera as a web browser don't we? It's not really a secret that they like to think of themselves are more than (just?) a browser. They're already an e-mail client, bittorrent client, irc client, powerpointesque presentation tool, widget engine, note taking tool, lawn mower, shower and military base. It's pretty much like the emacs of web browsers.

Today they have released yet another feature called Opera Unite. It basically runs a web server on your computer that you can use to share your music, pictures, web sites, files and all that other great stuff with everyone around the globe. Check it out on their website.

http://unite.opera.com/

I personally think they're trying to make it sound more groundbreaking than it is. It's nothing we weren't able to do yet but one thing they could have going for them is ease of use. I really can't imagine my grandmother setting up a file sharing server on her computer but if Opera can enable an attractive interface with just a few clicks then they will have a jewel on their hands here.

It's completely against the unix phylosophy of doing one thing and doing it well but then again, all the features they have now aren't slowing down the main browsing experience. I'm just going to wait and see how it's implemented in Opera 10 when it comes out. If anyone is gonna try out the beta, do post a link to some of your shared stuff. ;)

super.rad
June 16th, 2009, 01:14 PM
Just trying this out at the moment, haven't added any media yet though. Seems pretty cool but not sure how much I'd use it

HappinessNow
June 16th, 2009, 01:23 PM
We all know Opera as a web browser don't we? It's not really a secret that they like to think of themselves are more than (just?) a browser. They're already an e-mail client, bittorrent client, irc client, powerpointesque presentation tool, widget engine, note taking tool, lawn mower, shower and military base. It's pretty much like the emacs of web browsers.

Today they have released yet another feature called Opera Unite. It basically runs a web server on your computer that you can use to share your music, pictures, web sites, files and all that other great stuff with everyone around the globe. Check it out on their website.

http://unite.opera.com/

I personally think they're trying to make it sound more groundbreaking than it is. It's nothing we weren't able to do yet but one thing they could have going for them is ease of use. I really can't imagine my grandmother setting up a file sharing server on her computer but if Opera can enable an attractive interface with just a few clicks then they will have a jewel on their hands here.

It's completely against the unix phylosophy of doing one thing and doing it well but then again, all the features they have now aren't slowing down the main browsing experience. I'm just going to wait and see how it's implemented in Opera 10 when it comes out. If anyone is gonna try out the beta, do post a link to some of your shared stuff. ;)

Looks cool, I always respected Opera for their innovations (speed dial, Secure Login, Paste and Go 3, to name a few Firefox addons that mimic Opera innovations), but just as the Chromifox theme mimics Google Chrome in Firefox. The clear winner is the browser that can adapt and mimic the good features of other browsers...Firefox.

gnomeuser
June 16th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Unlike most of the things that come out of the google and the Mozilla camps this doesn't appear to be open. It starts out with the request that a user replace their existing browser with Operas proprietary browser which is going to be a showstopper for many people.

I suspect this will remain in Operas own little tiny world till they manage to market the idea to the wider community of browsers.

Metallion
June 16th, 2009, 02:41 PM
Looks cool, I always respected Opera for their innovations (speed dial, Secure Login, Paste and Go 3, to name a few Firefox addons that mimic Opera innovations), but just as the Chromifox theme mimics Google Chrome in Firefox. The clear winner is the browser that can adapt and mimic the good features of other browsers...Firefox.

Well yeah but that's another discussion. I didn't mean this thread to be about which browser is best but rather about this particular feature Opera is adding.

We could do all of this before but I do think it's cool if it becomes doable for non techy users that don't know how to setup all kinds of servers.

Bölvağur
June 16th, 2009, 03:29 PM
My grandmother doesnt know how to port forward... does this need some thing like that?

zekopeko
June 16th, 2009, 03:33 PM
My grandmother doesnt know how to port forward... does this need some thing like that?

nope. uses upnp port forwarding.

zekopeko
June 16th, 2009, 03:34 PM
I love how their ad for this is all about: "The evil middlemen control your internet. Let's free you" And then they become the middlemen...

LarsKongo
June 16th, 2009, 03:34 PM
My grandmother doesnt know how to port forward... does this need some thing like that?
I didn't have to do anything with my router. Just started it up, logged in and got started.

This is great when I for example want to show some people a couple of photos when I'm online. Instead of uploading them to a server I can just send them a link.

MellonCollie
June 16th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I suspect this will remain in Operas own little tiny world till they manage to market the idea to the wider community of browsers.

Probably, but it might prove relatively popular to non-Opera users seeing as any old browser can be used to access someone's shared stuff.

Sealbhach
June 16th, 2009, 04:46 PM
I'm wondering if there's any security risks, seeing that people will be going out on the web who aren't seasoned system adminsitrators.

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archdlx
June 16th, 2009, 04:54 PM
I'm wondering if there's any security risks, seeing that people will be going out on the web who aren't seasoned system adminsitrators.

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I am one of those "who aren't seasoned.....", and 2nd this 'wondering'.


Later.....

timjohn7
June 16th, 2009, 07:02 PM
I've been using Opera for many years and am certainly going to use this feature.
I'm not a System Administrator but I am aware of security risks. I dont have the knowledge or experience to set up a Web Server or any of the other services offered by this innovative Opera feature.
So, I'm going to give it a try and see how things go... the installation, setup and service installation certainly went flawlessly and without specialist knowledge... more than I can say for many alternatives.

hyperdude111
June 16th, 2009, 08:35 PM
I LOVE it, this has made (at least for the time being) opera my new browser. I can now easily set p my own server which makes it easy for me to upload content of a large size to gnome look without worry. I can also have use it to share stuff easily with friends.

I dont use all the options but others will. This is great!

CrazyArcher
June 16th, 2009, 09:07 PM
Downloaded the new version, and it looks pretty awesome. Being able to access my files without any fuss... That's a WOW for me.

imlinux
June 16th, 2009, 10:00 PM
now soon someone will make addon for firefox with all the new features of opera (turbo,web server, sharing etc etc)

Skripka
June 16th, 2009, 10:03 PM
now soon someone will make addon for firefox with all the new features of opera (turbo,web server, sharing etc etc)

Ironically...there is currently a thread still open on software bloat.

Junkieman
June 16th, 2009, 10:18 PM
I loved the Opera Browser for a good couple of versions + years! And Opera mini just rocks J2ME devices! The browser was fast, stable and had excellent features! (Gestures, Mail, RSS, Paste+Go!)

This, however, smells like scope creep to me; can the browser perform surgical procedures in emergencies yet? :D

DFinley
June 16th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Having spent several hours reading about Unite, watching the instruction video, installing Opera 10, removing Opera, setting up third-party repositories for the very latest offerings, and re-installing twice, I feel confident that the Unite service is not available for Ubuntu and that the panel cannot be made to appear in the panels.

Has anyone claiming to enjoy the file-sharing feature actually installed it in Ubuntu?

imlinux
June 16th, 2009, 11:18 PM
Has anyone claiming to enjoy the file-sharing feature actually installed it in Ubuntu?

i haven't tried file sharing but "fridge" feature is good and working on ubuntu,even photo sharing is fine,try opening with url given with firefox on same pc

Sealbhach
June 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Is it similar to Files Over Miles?

http://www.filesovermiles.com/

That uses "UDP Hole Punching", which sounds rather scary. I'm just wondering does Unite open ports, mess with iptables etc...

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Chianti
June 16th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Has anyone claiming to enjoy the file-sharing feature actually installed it in Ubuntu?

Yep!

MBro
June 17th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Having spent several hours reading about Unite, watching the instruction video, installing Opera 10, removing Opera, setting up third-party repositories for the very latest offerings, and re-installing twice, I feel confident that the Unite service is not available for Ubuntu and that the panel cannot be made to appear in the panels.

Has anyone claiming to enjoy the file-sharing feature actually installed it in Ubuntu?

Here you go: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10-unite/intel-linux/


You want the bottom deb, the other Opera 10 release posted on the third didn't have unite in it.

MellonCollie
June 18th, 2009, 12:15 AM
"The Lounge" will be handy for providing some live tech support. At least you don't have to fanny around with Messenger/chat clients.

treesurf
June 18th, 2009, 01:06 AM
So far I've only tried the File Sharing service but it works pretty nicely.

DFinley
June 18th, 2009, 03:31 AM
Here you go: http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10-unite/intel-linux/


You want the bottom deb, the other Opera 10 release posted on the third didn't have unite in it.

Thanks, Mbro:

I think my problem is that I use a 64-bit system. There may be a wait involved. I installed Unite in a M$ VM with no problems. The releases I have been able to install in 64-bit do not even show the little "propeller" for the new services.

MellonCollie
June 18th, 2009, 10:17 AM
Thanks, Mbro:

I think my problem is that I use a 64-bit system.


http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/10-unite/x86_64-linux/ (Works fine on 64bit 9.04)

3rdalbum
June 18th, 2009, 11:10 AM
I love this feature.

For years I used to run my PC as a web server, so my friends could grab videos, songs and pictures from Hi-5 straight from me. Initially I used plain HTML pages as indexes, before writing my own CGI script in Python to create the indexes for me.

I always tried to convince my friends to set up their own web servers so I could access their stuff, but there was always a technical barrier. Even more so when they'd need to set up port forwarding.

Opera removes the technical barrier. Fantastic. Now there's no excuse not to be able to fully share in Internet content, as long as it's secure :-)

It also *sort of* fulfils one of the original promises of the Internet: That anyone can publish content to the web. Amaya (W3C web browser) tried to fulfil that with an integrated HTML editor, but in the end there was no way to publish your self-made or edited web pages back to the 'net. Now Opera allows you to put content online.

starcannon
June 18th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Pointless junk was posted here.

Thanks for the heads up on the content blocking .nedberg.

I am deleting my original remark in this post as it has no merit as .nedberg's post shows (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7485506&postcount=31), my original remark is still intact in .nedberg's post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7485506&postcount=31) for clarity etc...

Okay, now, all that said, I still prefer AdBlock.

timjohn7
June 18th, 2009, 12:35 PM
Having spent several hours reading about Unite, watching the instruction video, installing Opera 10, removing Opera, setting up third-party repositories for the very latest offerings, and re-installing twice, I feel confident that the Unite service is not available for Ubuntu and that the panel cannot be made to appear in the panels.

Has anyone claiming to enjoy the file-sharing feature actually installed it in Ubuntu?

Media Player, File Sharing and Photo Album working 100% "out of the box" in Ubuntu 8.10. I'm very happy!

.nedberg
June 19th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Still have to hand edit a config file, and then maintain that file, in order to have adblocking; for me, thats a deal killer. I'll stick with Firefox thanks.

No, you don't. Right click a page and select "Block content". There are ready made filters available on the net if you search for them. No automatic updating though.