Computer Build

[-gabe-noob-]

Note: I wasn't sure where to post this, so please, move it to where it needs to be.


Anyways, I'm thinking of building a computer, and I'd like to gauge what people thought of what I picked out (Or if I missed anything) I'm looking for suggestions/comments


HEC 6K28BBX585 Black 0.8mm SECC Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply - Retail -case

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail -mother board

MSI N260GTX-T2D896 OC GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - graphics card

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor Model HDZ940XCGIBOX - Retail-processor

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail -ram


Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM - HDD


Sony Optiarc Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1678A - OEM DVD / CD



PSU and Fan included with case.

[Skripka]

Your mainboard and case are very incompatible, if you get an ATX board, your need an ATX (mid-tower) case.

[-gabe-noob-]

Bah, thank you, so, it can't be mini tower (it said ATX on the case, so I figured as such. :/ )

[-gabe-noob-]

Would:
APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail work?


Also I would downgrade to
AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor Model AD775ZWCGHBOX - Retail

For the sake of making the computer cheaper

[Skripka]

Would:
APEVIA X-Gear ATXB5KLW-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply - Retail work?


Also I would downgrade to
AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor Model AD775ZWCGHBOX - Retail

For the sake of making the computer cheaper

That box will work, and be cheap. But, the trade off for cheapness, is that it will be hard to work on/in, and will in all likelihood make for a computer that runs loud due to poor heat dissipation and 2 small (loud) fans.

NOTE-on the NewEgg site, they picture at LEAST 2 rather different cases in their pics. That alone raises my suspicions.

When I build machines I buy Lian-Li boxes, and buy PSU separately. I've had only bad experiences buying cheapo case/PSU combinations. Yes it costs more coin, but it makes for easier build/maintenance and cooler and quieter running machines. I bought a Raidmax case/PSU box once. The crate was cheap, and looked swank...was a PITA to work on, and came wired completely wrong (wrong connectors, wrong wire coloring-everything).

To each their own. If you're out to build cheap, that box will do...but it might start to grate on your nerves after a while.

[-gabe-noob-]

Alright, so I should look for a better fan/separate PSU? Its my first build so I was trying to make it as easy/cheap as I could, the big thing was the CPU, I didn't need a Quad Core.

[-gabe-noob-]

How about this

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V Power Supply - Retail


LIAN LI PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail



The build is about 640 US Dollars now.

[HappyFeet]

How about this

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V Power Supply - Retail


LIAN LI PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail



The build is about 640 US Dollars now.

Sounds good. I have that Kuma cpu on my second rig, and it works good.

Order it, build it, and let us know how it goes.

[-gabe-noob-]

NewEgg is a good place to buy from right? I've done all my upgrades and what not there, just wanna make sure its "The best I can get."

[LowSky]

newegg is the only place I shop for PC parts, been going there since 2003.

There are other places that might seem cheaper but newegg has some of the best customer service reps I have ever dealt with, and shipping is way fast and usually cheap.

[-gabe-noob-]

Thanks guys!

[Skripka]

How about this

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V Power Supply - Retail


LIAN LI PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail



The build is about 640 US Dollars now.

The 65Bs may not look like much, but they have it everywhere it really counts. Great quality. They are also very easy to work on. IMHO, it is worth the coin.

[PurposeOfReason]

Lian li makes some of the best chasis around IMO. Light, so easy to mod, and simple. For a PSU, grab a corsair, 620 should be enough for that build with some headroom. However, both these will be enough. A bit more, yes, but never ever go cheap on the PSU. I've owned, and had my Thermaltake die, and many more that I've had people come up to me and ask what blew.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004

[-gabe-noob-]

Lian li makes some of the best chasis around IMO. Light, so easy to mod, and simple. For a PSU, grab a corsair, 620 should be enough for that build with some headroom.

Did you happen to see the PSU I had picked out? I wasn't sure if 430 was enough-- I'll look into it more.

[PurposeOfReason]

Did you happen to see the PSU I had picked out? I wasn't sure if 430 was enough-- I'll look into it more.
See above.

[-gabe-noob-]

Oh, I see.

[Gerard08]

Just wondering: Have the problems with running java-based apps on 64 based systems been resolved? I had to install an x86 version of 8.10 b/c of this problem.

[ohbuntu]

Do you really need an AM2+ quad core Deneb? A Heka (Phenom 7xx) can do the job just as well while freeing some some cash that could be put into buying better components. For a budget of roughly 650 bucks, here's my pick:

CPU: Phenom II 720BE
GPU: The GTX260 you've mentioned has 192 streams and is pretty much outdated. You certainly don't want to get that. Go for the GTX260 216OC 896MB or a Powercolor 1GB HD4870 for pretty much the same amount of money. More VRAM always helps in case you're going to play something like GTA4.
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P
RAM: OCZ Platinum 2x2GB 5-5-5 DDR2-1066
HDD: WD 640GB Caviar Black
ODD: Samsung 22x DVD-RW SH-S223F
Case: CoolerMaster Centurion 534
SMPS: Corsair VX550 (or a BFG LS550 if you don't want to deal with rebates)

Sub total: $734.93
Rebates: $50
Total: $685 + shipping

This configuration should give you enough headroom to overclock by a decent amount.

[gn2]

What will the computer be used for?
No need to spend money on components you don't need.....

If you are going to do it, get a good case and a good PSU, they'll last through several modifications and upgrades and money spent on them is money well spent.

I would suggest a Seasonic or Corsair (made by Seasonic) PSU and an Antec Solo (http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MTk=) case.

Look at the TDP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_Design_Power) of a CPU, if you like a quiet PC lower is definitely better, look to be 65w or less.

Graphic card... if you don't play games or do 3D modelling etc, just get a motherboard with Intel on-board graphics.

These are just my opinions and preferences.....

[3rdalbum]

The GTX260 is a good choice as long as you get the newer model with 200+ stream processors. But it requires a reasonable amount of power, and I don't think a 430 watt PSU will cut it. I'd advise 500 watts or more; I think Nvidia advise that amount too. Make sure it's a brand-name PSU too, otherwise it probably won't be able to sustain a good wattage.

I'm also wondering why you're getting an IDE DVD burner. Go for SATA, they are just as cheap now, and in particular you should be buying a Pioneer as they are fast and reliable. A little more expensive ($10 maybe) but it's worth it.

[-gabe-noob-]

I should probably edit the main post, but yeah, I'm going with a Lian Li case a Cossair PSU ( I believe its 550 W ) and I downgraded to a dual core AM2+

[Pasdar]

Awesome PC. Preparing for the future or are you a gamer? :)

[Delever]

DDR2 800 would be almost the same as 1066 - take 1066 only if price difference is minimal between them.

[-gabe-noob-]

In regards to Ohbuntu, I'll go with the


GIGABYTE GV-N26OC-896H GeForce GTX 260 OC Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

now that I've thought about it.


Edit: TO Delver, there was only a minimal difference that I noticed, I was gonna go with DDR3 at first, but I figured that I really didn't need it.

Also, the PC will be used for some gaming, but mostly its a build so I can well... build a computer :P (It'll be used for multitasking and what not. )

[Delever]

In regards to Ohbuntu, I'll go with the


GIGABYTE GV-N26OC-896H GeForce GTX 260 OC Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

now that I've thought about it.

Probably enough for compiz...



Also, the PC will be used for some gaming, but mostly its a build so I can well... build a computer :P (It'll be used for multitasking and what not. )

Very nice computer - what did you have until now?

[-gabe-noob-]

I had an old Pc from 2002 that I've been upgrading continually


anyways I should close this thread, its getting off topic.

[-gabe-noob-]

Edit: Solved.

[-gabe-noob-]

Posting to you from an up and running box that just got built!

[gn2]

Posting to you from an up and running box that just got built!

Congratulations, there's always a great sense of satisfaction building your own. :D

What components did you settle on in the end?

[-gabe-noob-]

LIAN LI PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail


CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail





AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor Model AD775ZWCGHBOX - Retail


GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail -mother board


GIGABYTE GV-N26OC-896H GeForce GTX 260 OC Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail



G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail -ram


Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM - HDD


Sony Optiarc Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1678A - OEM DVD / CD

is what I used in the end.

[H2SO_four]

Very nice, there is nothing quite like making something by yourself. I have never bought a "factory computer". I have always built my own systems from parts.

[-gabe-noob-]

I agree, it -feels- good to have built my own computer.-- Time to save up for a new screen and some speakers!

[gn2]

Creative Gigaworks T20 speakers are good.

[UKBB]

NewEgg is a good place to buy from right?

Newegg and Tigerdirect are both very good. I bought a video card recently from Tigerdirect that had a $10 rebate on it. They sent me an email today reminding me of the rebate with a full page of instructions on how to get it.