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rax_m
May 26th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Checkout http://www.startpanic.com/

Apparently all the main browsers allow a website to determine one's search history. I connected with Chromium and it definitely displayed my history.

From the site:


We are gathering petition signatures with the request to patch the privacy vulnerabilities of web different web browsers. This petition will be sent to the four major development companies - Mozilla Corp., Apple inc., Microsoft Corp. and Opera Software ASA. Join us for a safe and secure Internet!


How big a deal do you think this is?

-grubby
May 26th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Oh shi-

pwnst*r
May 26th, 2009, 04:53 PM
very interesting, although i'll wait till i get home to test this

hanzomon4
May 26th, 2009, 04:58 PM
this looks pretty suspect if you ask me

rax_m
May 26th, 2009, 04:59 PM
The site or the browser issue?

MaxIBoy
May 26th, 2009, 05:08 PM
NoScript is amazing. :p

Jesuses Left Leg
May 26th, 2009, 05:10 PM
It didn't show me anything. I don't get it.
It just showed this once it was done loading.

"Correct? You bet. If you would like to protect your privacy online and want browser developers to patch this vulnerability, please sign our petition. Moreover, you can send your friend a special link via Startpanic.com mailing system. When your friend clicks it, you will receive the list of websites he has visited recently."
and "here we go in the lower box"

What was meant to happen?

pwnst*r
May 26th, 2009, 05:11 PM
@maxi

it is, but you have to do another click to actually have it pull the info

rax_m
May 26th, 2009, 05:22 PM
NoScript is amazing. :p


Yep I agree. Normally I use FF with noscript. But I've just been test running Chromium. ;)

imbjr
May 26th, 2009, 05:30 PM
NoScript is amazing. :p

Damn. I thought I saw something on this recently that used CCS only - no need for JavaScript.

Now I can't find the link!

rax_m
May 26th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Damn. I thought I saw something on this recently that used CCS only - no need for JavaScript.

Now I can't find the link!

Perhaps this ?

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Internet/8187.html

Delever
May 26th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Startpanic site exploits a:visited link tag to check if some site was visited. It can't list every site which was visited by user, because it checks sites against this database: http://www.startpanic.com/db/db_en.txt.

How it works: when you click start, it uses javascript to retrieve site list. Then it prints hidden links in your window, and checks if browser changed link style for visited links. If it did, then those links are added to list.

Hope this clarifies how much a site can actually find.

Summary: If script doesn't know about your site, it can't check if you visited it.

EDIT: that list is awfully huge though... So most sites are checked.

Kareeser
May 26th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Hm, that's a pretty roundabout way to find someone's internet history... and if that's true, a simple history cleaning, or emptying of /tmp should do the trick.

Had me going to think my internet history was somehow logged into some database online.

Oh wait, Google already does that with your search terms ;)

pwnst*r
May 26th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Startpanic site exploits a:visited link tag to check if some site was visited. It can't list every site which was visited by user, because it checks sites against this database: http://www.startpanic.com/db/db_en.txt.

How it works: when you click start, it uses javascript to retrieve site list. Then it prints hidden links in your window, and checks if browser changed link style for visited links. If it did, then those links are added to list.

Hope this clarifies how much a site can actually find.

Summary: If script doesn't know about your site, it can't check if you visited it.

EDIT: that list is awfully huge though... So most sites are checked.

nice info, thanks man

Delever
May 26th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Someone needs to make plugin to disable visited/not visited style for links to site root: i.e do not highlight visited links to "ubuntu.com" but highlight links to "ubuntu.com/something".

hatten
May 26th, 2009, 08:32 PM
No history saved+noscript=pwnd

pwnst*r
May 26th, 2009, 09:45 PM
i'm gonna see what happens with chrome's incognito

ice60
May 26th, 2009, 10:46 PM
the petition is pointless and stupid, you should just learn how to secure your browsers. you'll always be vulnerable otherwise!

here are some cool filters to merge with proxomitron, it's far more powerful than no script -
http://prxbx.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=970

pwnst*r
May 27th, 2009, 12:11 AM
the petition is pointless and stupid, you should just learn how to secure your browsers. you'll always be vulnerable otherwise!

here are some cool filters to merge with proxomitron, it's far more powerful than no script -
http://prxbx.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=970

i'm not seeing anywhere in that thread that it's "far more powerful" than no script. care to elaborate?

init1
May 27th, 2009, 12:56 AM
Eh, I'm not worried. I disabled history, so it's not showing me anything.

wirepuller134
May 27th, 2009, 01:13 AM
ditto

dragos240
May 27th, 2009, 01:50 AM
Holy ship! I want to protect myself!

samjh
May 27th, 2009, 08:07 AM
Didn't work on mine. If you clear your private data (assuming you use Firefox), it can't pull anything.

lisati
May 27th, 2009, 08:15 AM
It didn't get everything (heh heh heh) but it does know about the forums......

ice60
May 27th, 2009, 06:02 PM
i'm not seeing anywhere in that thread that it's "far more powerful" than no script. care to elaborate?
yes, those are just one set of filters to be merged with other filters i.e. the latest sidki filters -
http://prxbx.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1261

and here's a little about Proxomitron
http://www.geocities.com/sidki3003/prox.html

you can also filter SSL connections too with proxomitron -
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=31087