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knopper67
May 22nd, 2009, 08:20 AM
This is a little project I've been working on for a few days now. It's a lightweight note taker written in python made to be a non-mono alternative to tomboy notes.

All that works at the moment is basic note taking, autosaving, and the extension system (along with a test extension).

Anyway, heres the link:


Edit: I deleted my mediafire account, I'm disgraced with the amount of adverts on the site. Download is now here, on my personal website:
http://knopper67.110mb.com/projects.html

Edit: Code is now hosted here (https://code.launchpad.net/helixnotes) on launchpad

Enyjoy! :popcorn:


Apology to the mods if this is in the wrong forum, wasn't too sure...

monsterstack
May 22nd, 2009, 08:27 AM
Yowzer. First Gnote and now this. I predict arguments in this thread.

In any event, it seems to work. A bit basic at the moment, though. Good luck for your project.

Orlsend
May 22nd, 2009, 08:29 AM
The problem is, that they are about 50 note taking applications already.

Although this one could be a winner.

ade234uk
May 22nd, 2009, 10:09 AM
Just out of interest, I am interested in learning python.

So the question is where do I start so I can create a simple hello world app in Ubuntu, preferably that appears in a window.

Sublime Porte
May 22nd, 2009, 10:30 AM
Thumbs up to the idea of writing some new software, thumbs down to your file host. Opens popups and crap all over the place. My advice is to find a better place to put your files. I'd like to try out your program, but not fighting my way through ridiculous popups like that.

Orlsend,


The problem is, that they are about 50 note taking applications already.

Even if there's 6,000 note taking programs out there, the fact the guy wrote a new one is commendable, not condemnable. If you can do better, write one, if you can't, and don't wanna use his software, then just move along to the next thread. Innovation comes about by people giving it a go, not by saying "well something already exists, so I won't even bother improving on the idea". Encourage innovation, don't try to stifle it.

ade234uk (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=50806),

Check out the PyGTK tutorial (http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html)

ade234uk
May 22nd, 2009, 11:22 AM
Link bookmarked. Thank you very much.

ade234uk
May 22nd, 2009, 11:24 AM
Thumbs up to the idea of writing some new software, thumbs down to your file host. Opens popups and crap all over the place. My advice is to find a better place to put your files. I'd like to try out your program, but not fighting my way through ridiculous popups like that.

Orlsend,



Even if there's 6,000 note taking programs out there, the fact the guy wrote a new one is commendable, not condemnable. If you can do better, write one, if you can't, and don't wanna use his software, then just move along to the next thread. Innovation comes about by people giving it a go, not by saying "well something already exists, so I won't even bother improving on the idea". Encourage innovation, don't try to stifle it.

ade234uk (http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=50806),

Check out the PyGTK tutorial (http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html)

Yes good on the guy for having a go.

hanzomon4
May 22nd, 2009, 11:29 AM
Good for you, writing software and all. I still think this anti-mono attitude is stupid and that projects to protect us from the evil mono are a waste of talent.

binbash
May 22nd, 2009, 11:30 AM
It is good to see a light note taker software like gnone, helix notes and so

etnlIcarus
May 22nd, 2009, 11:32 AM
What are the advantages for a user of, say, Xpad?

Sublime Porte
May 22nd, 2009, 12:10 PM
I still think this anti-mono attitude is stupid and that projects to protect us from the evil mono are a waste of talent.

Firstly there's plenty of open dev platforms... why would we need to imitate Microsoft's platform?

Secondly, Microsoft have already sued Tomtom and are going to try and sue others who they claim violate their IP assets.

Thirdly, even if Microsoft do not try to stop mono, it will only be because they know it helps cement their dominance in the market, and facilitates the infection of Linux with their shonky platform. If you want to help them do that, then go for it, I do not.

directhex
May 22nd, 2009, 01:00 PM
Free Software is about scratching an itch - by all means, the OP is welcome to write their own app to do something the way they want it to be done - the part where Freedom matters is when a developer decides "it's easier for me to enhance $FOO than write $BAR from scratch"

Is being influenced by FUD sufficient reason to decide that writing $BAR is still the better option? Ehm... pass. I don't live life in perpetual fear, so I'd generally just punch a FUDster in the mouth, then carry on doing what I enjoy doing (and exercising my Freedom to do so)

I'll take a peek at this when it's available from somewhere that isn't a disreputable spam site used for trading rar files filled with underage porn - try somewhere like Sourceforge or Codeplex.

knopper67
May 22nd, 2009, 09:43 PM
Thumbs up to the idea of writing some new software, thumbs down to your file host. Opens popups and crap all over the place. My advice is to find a better place to put your files. I'd like to try out your program, but not fighting my way through ridiculous popups like that.

I use adblock plus, so I completely forgot about the ads on that page, I disabled it for a sec and I was horrified to see how many ads and popups there were. So sorry about that...:o Do you know of any better ones?

Second, Why do so many people think that I'm anti-mono? All I hate about mono is the fact that the company behind it did some shady stuff in the past. That has totally erased any of my trust for them.

And lastly, Gnote is a port of Tomboy to C++, so in the end, it's still tomboy. My goal is to create a BETTER program than that, from scratch.

sim-value
May 22nd, 2009, 10:04 PM
Launchpad ,rapidshare ...

Now what the **** do this two have together ?! lol (omg im getting confused by my own thoughts)

Polygon
May 22nd, 2009, 10:09 PM
what is the advantage of this over tomboy?

Tibuda
May 22nd, 2009, 10:12 PM
And lastly, Gnote is a port of Tomboy to C++, so in the end, it's still tomboy. My goal is to create a BETTER program than that, from scratch.
If you contribute to Tomboy instead, we'll have "a BETTER program than that".

knopper67
May 22nd, 2009, 11:13 PM
If you contribute to Tomboy instead, we'll have "a BETTER program than that".

Did you read the last two words "from scratch"? THAT is my goal. If you have a problem with it, lets see you do some contibuting...

And another thing, I can't code in C#. Why would I want to learn it in the first place? It's disgusting.

knopper67
May 22nd, 2009, 11:16 PM
what is the advantage of this over tomboy?

It's lightweight. Since it's written in python, it's currently right under 60KB, but that's because it's not finished yet. That will change soon though.

directhex
May 23rd, 2009, 01:00 AM
There's always the middle ground - http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/ironpython ;)

Sublime Porte
May 23rd, 2009, 04:54 AM
knopper,


And lastly, Gnote is a port of Tomboy to C++, so in the end, it's still tomboy. My goal is to create a BETTER program than that, from scratch.

Wish you all the luck. Some of the best software has been written by people who decided to make a better 'X' from scratch, so go for it. Don't let the negative 'armchair coders' get you down. They probably couldn't code their way out of a paper bag, so instead they sit around criticising anyone who can.

When you get it up on a decent file host, let us know, so I can try it out.

danielrmt,


If you contribute to Tomboy instead, we'll have "a BETTER program than that".

That isn't always the case. More often than not you cannot change most things about a project if you join it, so it's better to create your own project from scratch, which you can have total control over. Your mentality is the equivalent of suggesting all GNU/Linux coders should never have begun the GNU/Linux project, but instead should have applied for jobs with Microsoft, to help make Windows a better OS.

If you want to contribute to Tomboy, then feel free, go and help make it all you want it to be.. but others do not, for a variety of reasons, and that's their perogative. If you're not interested in this project, go start a discussion about tomboy, and leave this for those who are.

knopper67
May 30th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Helix is on launchpad now, just letting everyone know.

Thanks,

Andrew

matmatmat
May 30th, 2009, 09:59 AM
When trying to run:


$ python main.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "main.py", line 4, in <module>
from function import *
ImportError: No module named function

?

hanzomon4
May 30th, 2009, 10:14 AM
knopper,



danielrmt,



That isn't always the case. More often than not you cannot change most things about a project if you join it, so it's better to create your own project from scratch, which you can have total control over. Your mentality is the equivalent of suggesting all GNU/Linux coders should never have begun the GNU/Linux project, but instead should have applied for jobs with Microsoft, to help make Windows a better OS.

If you want to contribute to Tomboy, then feel free, go and help make it all you want it to be.. but others do not, for a variety of reasons, and that's their perogative. If you're not interested in this project, go start a discussion about tomboy, and leave this for those who are.

I think people express those sentiments about these anti-mono clones because it seems as though they were only created due to fudacious political hatred for a language with no regard paid to the technical merits or shortcomings of the language. If the point really is just to make a better, or better for a specific purpose, product... great, more power to ya.