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logos34
May 20th, 2009, 09:46 PM
Anybody seen this:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8060082.stm

How to fit 300 DVDs on one disc

Information stored on layers
The different colours and polarisations of light access different images

A new optical recording method could pave the way for data discs with 300 times the storage capacity of standard DVDs, Nature journal reports.

And I thought the earlier report about developments in 500 GB optical disc was astounding.

This one looks like it has a better chance of being realized in the near future.

I just wonder how long it will take to burn an entire disk? A few hours?

Hard disks keep getting so big and cheap it probably won't be worth it to buy a burner,

SuperSonic4
May 20th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Yeah, I saw that article but I don't think it will kill the 700mb CD-R.

logos34
May 20th, 2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah, I saw that article but I don't think it will kill the 700mb CD-R.

Isn't the cd already headed for oblivion? People download music now, and many OS installation discs are on DVD (vista, a number of linux distros). Then there's multi-GB USB sticks and DAPs.

TBOL3
May 20th, 2009, 10:25 PM
I don't think it will kill the 700 MB cdr either, because they are going away before it will even come out to the average consumer.

PurposeOfReason
May 20th, 2009, 10:28 PM
You mean I can snap and easily lose 1.5TB? Awesome!

Firestem4
May 20th, 2009, 11:11 PM
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/05/researchers-hope-to-cram-12tb-of-data-on-dvd-sized-disk.ars

12TB Discs

logos34
May 21st, 2009, 12:50 AM
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/05/researchers-hope-to-cram-12tb-of-data-on-dvd-sized-disk.ars

12TB Discs

that's wickedly huge

Kareeser
May 21st, 2009, 03:21 AM
You mean I can snap and easily lose 1.5TB? Awesome!

ehehehehh.... you could freak out, super glue the two halves back together, and lose your drive too :D

HappyFeet
May 21st, 2009, 03:35 AM
Someday there will be 500tb recordable disks. Does that surprise you? Not me. It will happen in time. Perhaps by then, disks won't even matter. Most every technology so far has gone by the wayside, only to be replaced by something else.

lisati
May 21st, 2009, 03:43 AM
I don't think it will kill the 700 MB cdr either, because they are going away before it will even come out to the average consumer.

Although unlikely to affect computer users much these days even the humble cassette is still going strong. (I haven't used cassette-based storage on a computer for nearly 20 years)

http://www.3news.co.nz/Rewinding-back-to-the-80s---cassettes-making-a-comeback/tabid/412/articleID/104657/cat/73/Default.aspx

logos34
May 21st, 2009, 04:50 AM
Although unlikely to affect computer users much these days even the humble cassette is still going strong. (I haven't used a cassette-based storage on a computer for nearly 20 years)

http://www.3news.co.nz/Rewinding-back-to-the-80s---cassettes-making-a-comeback/tabid/412/articleID/104657/cat/73/Default.aspx


Police still rely on cassettes as many lawyers don't trust digital technology.

interesting...didn't know that

monsterstack
May 21st, 2009, 04:58 AM
I can't wait for storage to get bigger and cheaper. You can already get 64 gigabyte USB sticks. It looks like internet companies are going to do everything in their power to not upgrade our connection speeds over the next few years. Trading super huge discs and sticks amongst friends might well be the best way of sharing large collections of large files soon enough.

logos34
May 21st, 2009, 05:09 AM
I can't wait for storage to get bigger and cheaper. You can already get 64 gigabyte USB sticks. It looks like internet companies are going to do everything in their power to not upgrade our connection speeds over the next few years. Trading super huge discs and sticks amongst friends might well be the best way of sharing large collections of large files soon enough.

yeah, pony-express-with-usb-stick

monsterstack
May 21st, 2009, 05:15 AM
yeah, pony-express-with-usb-stick

It's a pretty cool idea. I mean, Debian has 35 discs (http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/) [debian.org] nowadays. Alternatively, you could get the whole lot on to a single Blu-Ray disc. Not a bad way of lugging about a distro if I do say so myself.

Rainstride
May 21st, 2009, 05:16 AM
Anybody seen this:



And I thought the earlier report about developments in 500 GB optical disc was astounding.

This one looks like it has a better chance of being realized in the near future.

I just wonder how long it will take to burn an entire disk? A few hours?

Hard disks keep getting so big and cheap it probably won't be worth it to buy a burner,

it would be great for long term storage. hard disks are great, but you alway have that risk of the drive failing and taking your 500gb with it(it happened to me....(sigh..)). the speed of the burn would depend on the speed of the disk spin and how accurate the burner is and how much data you are burning. 1.5tb at 2x would take FOREVER(days at least) 100x would probably be a few hours.

lisati
May 21st, 2009, 05:24 AM
It looks like internet companies are going to do everything in their power to not upgrade our connection speeds over the next few years.
It looks like my ISP is coming to the party, sort-of: in one of my local papers this week there was a front-page article about broadband speeds in my area. It kinda contradicted itself: at one point it implied that ALL customers in the area would benefit from twice the speed, and then later gave figures that indicated that some customers in the area currently have speeds that are half of what others in the area get. My own experience I get variable speeds, even with the ADSL2+ modem/router (a "freebie" provided by the ISP, on the condition that I stay with them at least 2 years otherwise I'd have to fork out something like $199 or more) and living about 2km from the nearest telephone exchange.

I really must sort out the phone wiring here in the Lisati household (currently relying on an extension chord to the one and only phone socket in the house, have cable and a new socket, just haven't gotten round to installing it properly yet)

logos34
May 21st, 2009, 05:44 AM
It looks like my ISP is coming to the party, sort-of: in one of my local papers this week there was a front-page article about broadband speeds in my area. It kinda contradicted itself: at one point it implied that ALL customers in the area would benefit from twice the speed, and then later gave figures that indicated that some customers in the area currently have speeds that are half of what others in the area get. My own experience I get variable speeds, even with the ADSL2+ modem/router (a "freebie" provided by the ISP...

Bottom line is, in too many countries internet service is a scandal...A handful of telecoms are throttling speeds for average users because they "own the pipes"...Always complaining about having to deliver more and more multimedia bandwidth. They want to force you into forking out more $$$ for premium service...

At my current lousy adsl speeds, in the time it takes me to download a linux live cd iso I could probably drive to the library, dl it using their T1 line, copy it to usb and be back, with an hour to spare

gn2
May 21st, 2009, 12:21 PM
Optical media is too unreliable to be anything other than disposable.

When a 1.5tb blank costs 50p and the writer drive costs under £20 I might consider using them.

(that won't be soon)

handy
May 21st, 2009, 04:07 PM
Although unlikely to affect computer users much these days even the humble cassette is still going strong. (I haven't used a cassette-based storage on a computer for nearly 20 years)

http://www.3news.co.nz/Rewinding-bac...3/Default.aspx



Police still rely on cassettes as many lawyers don't trust digital technology.


interesting...didn't know that

I worked for a couple of legal firms & I have to say that they were dumb as dogshit when it comes to using computer technology.

There was a particular barrister (outside of the people I worked for) that used Mac's in his office & no one in the office could be educated (multiple phone calls) to save their documents in a format that other non-Mac people could read. :confused:

Good god (sorry I didn't mean that) barristers are payed huge amounts per quarter hour, yet they still can't learn how to communicate with their associates.

Working for the legal eagles taught me a lot about how dumb (in practical terms) they are. They had the same mentality as the management of the car dealerships I worked for.

Glib lipped, fast brained, practically useless, & totally untrustworthy. From my experience.

They were ALL 12:00 flashers.