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nolliecrooked
May 20th, 2009, 09:02 PM
this really, really needs reporting

pwnst*r
May 20th, 2009, 09:02 PM
what?

nolliecrooked
May 20th, 2009, 09:04 PM
what?

you dont wanna know, and I aint telling ya.

sisco311
May 20th, 2009, 09:05 PM
this really, really needs reporting

illegal? where? i mean in what country?

suitedaces
May 20th, 2009, 09:06 PM
Try some of the links on here.
http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/

And come on people, it must be pretty obvious what he's reporting.

pwnst*r
May 20th, 2009, 09:08 PM
you mean in searches IN or ON google? searches TO google makes absolutely no sense. so "come on people" yourself.

suitedaces
May 20th, 2009, 09:09 PM
you mean in searches IN or ON google? searches TO google makes absolutely no sense. so "come on people" yourself.

How he can report them to google.

FuturePilot
May 20th, 2009, 09:09 PM
And come on people, it must be pretty obvious what he's reporting.

:-k

nolliecrooked
May 20th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Try some of the links on here.
http://www.google.com/intl/en/contact/

And come on people, it must be pretty obvious what he's reporting.

thanks.

suitedaces
May 20th, 2009, 09:11 PM
This is one of the stupidest debates I've seen.

He clearly wants to find out how he can report illegal material (that turned up in a google search) to Google.

sisco311
May 20th, 2009, 09:12 PM
You can also try this:

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

chriskin
May 20th, 2009, 09:15 PM
This is one of the stupidest debates I've seen.

He clearly wants to find out how he can report illegal material (that turned up in a google search) to Google.

yes it is

and the op seems that is lying :)

sisco311
May 20th, 2009, 09:16 PM
This is one of the stupidest debates I've seen.

He clearly wants to find out how he can report illegal material (that turned in an a google search) to Google.

marijuana is illegal here in Romania, but it's legal in Holland.
EDIT:

Soft drugs like marijuana are legal for personal use in some countries, but illegal in others.

suitedaces
May 20th, 2009, 09:19 PM
yes it is

and the op seems that is lying :)

Possibly, but I was just answering the question. All the talk over how he phrased the question was entirely unnecessary.

Also, am I missing something? I can't see any mention of marijuana.

zurack
May 20th, 2009, 09:20 PM
marijuana is illegal here in Romania, but it's legal in Holland.


NO, you are wrong, a common misconception.



marijuana is not legal in Holland, the police just turn a blind eye.

issih
May 20th, 2009, 09:24 PM
I believe the official term is "gergotten"..which translates loosely as "tolerated"(marijuanah in holland that is)

pwnst*r
May 20th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Possibly, but I was just answering the question. All the talk over how he phrased the question was entirely unnecessary.



no it wasn't, because it made little sense.

sisco311
May 20th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Also, am I missing something? I can't see any mention of marijuana.

It was an example.

Not everything illegal in one country is illegal in another.

zurack
May 20th, 2009, 09:28 PM
It was an example.

Not everything illegal in one country is illegal in another.


:) Very true

suitedaces
May 20th, 2009, 09:29 PM
no it wasn't, because it made little sense.
how do you report illegal material, found in searches, to google?

two implied commas, and even if it wasn't the case, there's no need for grammar police.


It was an example.

Not everything illegal in one country is illegal in another.
My mistake
self-facepalm.jpg

gregorio
May 20th, 2009, 09:29 PM
I can only think of one thing to report that would make me react in such a way, and it makes me sick to even think of it.

nolliecrooked, all I can say is good for you.

sisco311
May 20th, 2009, 09:32 PM
NO, you are wrong, a common misconception.



marijuana is not legal in Holland, the police just turn a blind eye.

Yes, you are right, my mistake. :)

I'll try to rephrase my previous statement:

Soft drugs like marijuana are legal for personal use in some countries, but illegal in others.

blastus
May 20th, 2009, 09:35 PM
I think you would be better off reporting it to the authorities, not to Google. Let the authorities investigate it and work with Google.

CharmyBee
May 20th, 2009, 09:54 PM
two implied commas, and even if it wasn't the case, there's no need for grammar police.

Because it's 'cool' to act smart on the internet and force a baffle on any message with incorrect grammar and spelling. :roll: I read the op fine without needing explanation, and doesn't take half a brain to know.

dragos240
May 20th, 2009, 09:58 PM
:o my post disappeared.

blastus
May 20th, 2009, 10:07 PM
:o my post disappeared.

The cat got your tongue ;)

dragos240
May 20th, 2009, 10:13 PM
The cat got your tongue ;)

I thought it might be aysiu ..... nah just kidding.

stefangr1
May 20th, 2009, 10:17 PM
I believe the official term is "gergotten"..which translates loosely as "tolerated"(marijuanah in holland that is)

Actually, the official term is "gedogen", which means tolerated. And it has an official status, which means that the possesion of and trade in soft drugs is still illegal (mainly because of international pressure), but that there is no sentence on the possesion and trade of drugs (large scale trade is an exception). It works quite well, since the death rate resulting from drugs abuse is very low in the Netherlands compared to other countries, mainly since those who trade drugs in other countries are criminals with an incentive to get their customers to use hard drugs.

I don't have a clue however what "illegal material" this tread is about though...

Random-penguin
May 20th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Surely the police would be a good starting place ( grabbing as much info as possible from the site). They may not always be that savvy with internet crimes, but with with follow up calls and general badgering, I am sure the site could be closed down and those involved investigated. Speaking to your ISP may help get more info on them.

Dharmachakra
May 20th, 2009, 10:48 PM
no it wasn't, because it made little sense.

I don't know if he changed it or not but it's crystal clear right now.

Anyways, Google would be the last group I'd contact about truly illegal content. You're probably better off contacting the host of said content or the authorities. Or just contact all three... good luck either way.

starcannon
May 20th, 2009, 10:50 PM
+1 to the police. Considering the "you don't want to know" attitude when asked, I am guessing its pretty bad. In the U.S. I would probably forward the information on to the the FBI, I think they are the ones that would handle something as bad as the "you don't want to know category". I don't know what country your in, but I'm sure you have a law enforcement agency that handles those sorts of things, something that a little googling should help you find out.

CharmyBee
May 20th, 2009, 10:53 PM
I don't know if he changed it or not but it's crystal clear right now.

it's unedited.

blastus
May 20th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Surely the police would be a good starting place ( grabbing as much info as possible from the site). They may not always be that savvy with internet crimes, but with with follow up calls and general badgering, I am sure the site could be closed down and those involved investigated. Speaking to your ISP may help get more info on them.

I would strongly advise against doing any kind of investigation yourself. You can and will be implicated if you do. Your best bet is to search the Internet for the appropriate authorities in your jurisdiction and report it as you suspect it is illegal. Contact your local police department and ask for a number or contact to report suspected illegal Internet activity. Make sure you tell them everything so they don't suspect you are involved with it.

monsterstack
May 20th, 2009, 11:15 PM
If you live in the UK, be very wary about reporting dodgy stuff to the police. I can speak from experience here:

About five years ago I came across some very bad stuff which had been spammed to my inbox. I called the police. They sent somebody round my house to investigate. The policeman took a look and then basically told me forget I ever saw it, to delete it from my disk, and never call the police about this sort of issue again. It turns out their usual reaction is to confiscate your computer and try to charge you for looking at it. I just happened to meet a policeman who saw my predicament and decided to cut me a break.

You might not be so lucky.

Random-penguin
May 20th, 2009, 11:26 PM
I would strongly advise against doing any kind of investigation yourself. You can and will be implicated if you do. Your best bet is to search the Internet for the appropriate authorities in your jurisdiction and report it as you suspect it is illegal. Contact your local police department and ask for a number or contact to report suspected illegal Internet activity. Make sure you tell them everything so they don't suspect you are involved with it.


Yes that is a point I hadn't thought of.

And monsterstack has a point, but how would you stop people doing illegal things if you couldn't report them.............? Surely by reporting said illegal activity you would be the whistle blower not the accused? If not the law really needs to change.

Keithhed
May 20th, 2009, 11:29 PM
I predict this thread to be closed soon for lack of relevance... to anything.

monsterstack
May 20th, 2009, 11:30 PM
Yes that is a point I hadn't thought of.

And monsterstack has a point, but how would you stop people doing illegal things if you couldn't report them.............? Surely by reporting said illegal activity you would be the whistle blower not the accused? If not the law really needs to change.

Agreed one hundred per cent. I suppose the best way is report such things anonymously. Contact the police from a phone booth, or better yet send them an email jammed through the tor network. The police are pretty powerless to stop this sort of thing from happening, but I guess organisations like The Internet Watch Foundation can at least remove access to these places from the regular internet.

HappyFeet
May 21st, 2009, 12:55 AM
If you live in the UK, be very wary about reporting dodgy stuff to the police. I can speak from experience here:

About five years ago I came across some very bad stuff which had been spammed to my inbox. I called the police. They sent somebody round my house to investigate. The policeman took a look and then basically told me forget I ever saw it, to delete it from my disk, and never call the police about this sort of issue again. It turns out their usual reaction is to confiscate your computer and try to charge you for looking at it. I just happened to meet a policeman who saw my predicament and decided to cut me a break.

You might not be so lucky.

I heard of a guy who was sent some illegal pics in his email, and he reported it to the police and was arrested for possession of said pics. Horrible law enforcement. The police on tv said you are better off deleting it and forgetting about it.

zurack
May 21st, 2009, 01:12 AM
I would forget about it, It's not like failing to report an accident and you could end up in trouble.

Simian Man
May 21st, 2009, 01:27 AM
Dear Google,

Yesterday I saw a classmate steal another student's calculator.
Please take care of this as soon as possible.

Your friend,
nolliecrooked

phrostbyte
May 21st, 2009, 02:13 AM
Contrary to popular belief, Google is not the Internet police.

t0p
May 21st, 2009, 03:08 AM
I guess organisations like The Internet Watch Foundation can at least remove access to these places from the regular internet.

Yeah right. Like when they were responsible for thousands of internet users in the UK and elsewhere were unable to access Wikipedia because of an image that was not pornographic, was not indecent, was not illegal. An image that appeared on record covers for many years, that anyone could go and buy from a store. Great. I really want those idiots deciding what I can and cannot access.

Oh, and what's with all the mystery, OP? I understand you don't want to supply a link to this "illegal" content, but why are you so coy about saying what it is? I assume it's child pornography - am I right? Or is it something petty that has somehow offended your sensibilities?

HappyFeet
May 21st, 2009, 03:12 AM
I understand you don't want to supply a link to this "illegal" content, but why are you so coy about saying what it is? I assume it's child pornography - am I right?

I would assume that is what it is. But, for all you kids out there, never assume anything.

monsterstack
May 21st, 2009, 03:19 AM
Yeah right. Like when they were responsible for thousands of internet users in the UK and elsewhere were unable to access Wikipedia because of an image that was not pornographic, was not indecent, was not illegal. An image that appeared on record covers for many years, that anyone could go and buy from a store. Great. I really want those idiots deciding what I can and cannot access.

Oh, and what's with all the mystery, OP? I understand you don't want to supply a link to this "illegal" content, but why are you so coy about saying what it is? I assume it's child pornography - am I right? Or is it something petty that has somehow offended your sensibilities?

I'm well aware of how useless this organisation are. The thing is, they are responsible for keeping most of the kid porn off the general intertubes. They can't do a damn thing about the stuff on tor or on freenet, which is why they will always be useless at stopping real criminals. Still, they do catch at least some of the low hanging fruit. If you want something you've seen because of Google off the interwebs, then these are the people to talk to.

t0p
May 21st, 2009, 03:36 AM
I'm well aware of how useless this organisation are. The thing is, they are responsible for keeping most of the kid porn off the general intertubes.

Actually, they are responsible for closing down sites that have nothing to do with kiddie porn. The Wikipedia example is just one high-profile example. They have a scatter-gun approach that is responsible for a lot of collateral damage. And I do not believe it's okay for all those legitimate sites to be destroyed as long as some bad sites go down too. They are not somehow morally superior to the rest of us and they are not my conscience. They are bad news.



If you want something you've seen because of Google off the interwebs, then these are the people to talk to.

It's strange... I'm a frequent user of Google, yet I have come across very little child porn. Possibly because I craft my searches carefully. Possibly because I don't go looking for pornography.

I'm not suggesting that anyone here actively searches for kiddie porn. But I am curious what search terms are being used that lead to such sites being accidently discovered.

monsterstack
May 21st, 2009, 03:43 AM
Actually, they are responsible for closing down sites that have nothing to do with kiddie porn. The Wikipedia example is just one high-profile example. They have a scatter-gun approach that is responsible for a lot of collateral damage. And I do not believe it's okay for all those legitimate sites to be destroyed as long as some bad sites go down too. They are not somehow morally superior to the rest of us and they are not my conscience. They are bad news.



It's strange... I'm a frequent user of Google, yet I have come across very little child porn. Possibly because I craft my searches carefully. Possibly because I don't go looking for pornography.

I'm not suggesting that anyone here actively searches for kiddie porn. But I am curious what search terms are being used that lead to such sites being accidently discovered.

I don't really mind what they do. If you want to get around censorship online these days, it's pathetically easy to do.

t0p
May 21st, 2009, 04:15 AM
If you want to get around censorship online these days, it's pathetically easy to do.

Yeah, for those of us who are a little savvy. Thing is, there are a lot of people who don't understand the technology and so fall right into the clutches of the censor.

Take, for instance, the Great Firewall of China. There are ways and means for Chinese computer users to evade its control. But it still circumscribes the online freedoms of millions of their compatriots who have not been able to learn the necessary tricks.

Censorship is a great evil. Just because you and I can laugh in its face doesn't diminish its horror. We should fight it no matter what mask it wears.

monsterstack
May 21st, 2009, 04:27 AM
I'd rather people concentrate on circumvention techniques. It doesn't look like our rulers will ever give us the freedom to make our own decisions: paedophiles are just an all too easy scapegoat. All you have to do is say you're going to try and stop them somehow and you win votes. It's that easy. And it can be used as an excuse for everything. On the other hand, using tor these days is as easy as installing a Firefox plugin. Work is going on to make these protocols safer and faster, and easier to use. When legitimate places start getting shut down, it is services such as tor and places such as Wikileaks that will come out on top.