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spyrosebastos
May 20th, 2009, 12:32 PM
Hello all;

I have been using Ubuntu 8.04 on a 2005 dell i386. Today I finished building my next comp, which was the first build of my own actually for myself. Anyway, Jaunty-64 installed fine from the CD, and when I start it, everything starts fine up untill the grub loads... however after that, my screen turns black and the only thing that comes up is my Username, then password, then command (terminal) prompt, no GUI at all.

I'm confident the hardware that is giving me the probs is the ATI card.

I've tried:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English (.pdf intructions)

and read:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1133931&highlight=ATI+Drivers&page=22

These three got me nowhere for their own reasons, that I can explain for anyone if necessary. Also, doing a clean install of 8.10 doesn't work past the initial install screen from the LiveCD. It just goes black with a blinking underscore.

Does anyone know or have a link to a site where to find the command to install/unpack the necessary drivers to get the GUI working.

Oh, last thing, I cannot connect to third party repositories in this "text-only mode"; that i have learned via some commands from the first link posted. I couldn't reach canonical.

Suggestions?

pro003
May 20th, 2009, 12:41 PM
in text mode you can edit sources by typing

sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list

and uncheck third party and what else you got there with # just remover the # sign in front of deb http://...

spyrosebastos
May 22nd, 2009, 05:35 AM
thanks, but I totally gave up on 9.04 after a few days... isn't worth the hassle for the minor difference over 8.10 IMO

And the reason a clean install of 8.10 wouldn't work because it was a i386 version.

I Installed clean install of 8.10-64 and it installed fine but when it gets to the login page the mouse and keyboard are completely frozen... no crtl+alt+del, no ctrl+alt+F1.
I have my BIOS setup to halt boot on any error; it notifies me- the keyboard and mouse are non-existent/undisplayed/unknown. (The bios wont go farther than this unless I change this option to "Boot regardless of erros").

How can I get into the command prompt to adjust how the OS identifies the keyboard and mouse from the 8.10 login screen? I can do less w/ 8.10 than w/ the command prompt only of 9.04.

8.04 LTS Live disc will not work, screen just turns white after I select "Install Ubuntu"

pro003
May 22nd, 2009, 01:54 PM
does your hardware supports x64 infrastructure? you've said that you installed x64, thats why I ask you this...

spyrosebastos
May 23rd, 2009, 11:50 PM
Well I had spent an hour typing a lengthy response but Ubuntu forums signed me out before I could send it. So When I signed in it wouldn't let me copy it, great, fantastic.

System:
i7 940 o.c. @ 3.05ghz -3.25ghz running @ 25-30 degrees C
6gb triple channel ram @ 2100mhz
1000 watt power
PNY GeForce 250 - 1024 mb gddr3 - (I returned the ATI 4780 hoping the Nvidia card would be smoother to install; It's not.)
LG BR/DVD reader/writer
2.1 tb harddrive

64-bit works on my mother's computer I just upgraded...

I'll type my source list later, if it is even possible to transcribe it- or will the forums log me out before its done again.

spyrosebastos
May 24th, 2009, 01:03 AM
This is the command-line response to: sudo vi etc/apt/sources.list:

#dev cdrom: [Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_-release amd64 (20090420.1)]/ jaunty main restricted # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted deb-src http:// us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted ## Major bug fix updates proceed after the final release of the ##distribution. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any ## review or upgrades from the Ubuntu security team deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu ## team, and may not be under a free licence. please satisfy yourself as to ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the ubuntu ## security team deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty multiverse deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/jaunty-updates multiverse deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/jaunty-updates multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the "backports" ## repository ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports will not receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted univ erse multiverse #deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-backports main restricted universe multiverse ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's ## 'partner' repository. ## this software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the ## resective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users. # deb http://archive.canonical.com {ubuntu jaunty partner} #deb-src http://archive.canonical.com{ubuntu jaunty partner} deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main restricted deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security main restricted deb http:// security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty- security universe
deb-src http:// security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty- security universe
deb http://sec http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security multiverse
deb-src http://sec http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty-security multiverse

Trying 8.04-32 before working with 9.04 again.

spyrosebastos
May 24th, 2009, 01:04 AM
wow maybe should have put that in html

pro003
May 24th, 2009, 11:47 AM
wow gee, you've typed all that? it must have took you hours to do that. well, like you asked I have told you, you
said non-gui (dos-like environment) came up with no X, offering you to login, well do the login, type your username and pass and it should get you in, and the type


sudo -s
and enter again your pass which is also roots pass but only by default. you'll get root@ubuntu~#

then type this:


/etc/init.d/networking start

it should give you internet access by DHCP protocol, but only if you have a direct internet access from this machine, i.e if you have to create pppoe or vpn the command above won't help.

anyways, if you gain internet access try to update your system by typing:


apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

click Y to confirm, it will check your configuration and download whatever your system needs to be functional.



if all goes well reboot the system after update


sudo shutdown -hr now

if you againg get into dos like environment then upgrade didn't help and we take plan b, which is downloading the driver for your card and installing it.

but this we'll try after you try plan A.

p.s. it would be good if you already made it by yourself or maybe totally gave up on ubuntu and installed some other OS, hehehee...

pro003
May 24th, 2009, 12:21 PM
Ok I'll just write here another step that might help and that is getting the driver and installing it:

Again we are talking about the situation of non-gui mode i.e dos-like mode. you login and then you start the networking with command posted in previos post above and then you download the driver, I assume you'll have 4870 like you said above somewhere.

so, this is what it looks after login:

yourusername@ubuntu~#

we download the driver using wget:



wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-5-x86.x86_64.run

the driver should be downloaded in your home directory.

then we start installing this driver by typing:


sudo sh ati-driver*.run

it should start to uncompressing and the rest of process is easy, you just hit enter enter until it's done and you're back in non gui mode, then initiate the driver:


sudo aticonfig --initiate

and then reboot


sudo reboot

hopefully next you'll see is a full gui mode in your screens snative resolution, and your problem should be solved.

But again, hopefully.

Good luck. ):P

spyrosebastos
May 26th, 2009, 11:29 AM
Thank for your help; sorry about the last two posts, I was pretty frustrated by that point. Unfortunately, I don't think Ubuntu likes this computer very much- 8.04-32/64 can't identify/recognize harddrives, 8.10-32/64 the keyboard mouse bug handicaps the OS... 9.04-32/64 do work though.

For now, Fedora 10 installed smoothly. I'll probably wait for the next LTS before switching back.

pro003
May 26th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Fedora 11 (Leonidas) final release should actually come out today on 26th May, I've read that recently, actually I was giving a thought to try it myself...

Good luck.