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dspari1
May 10th, 2009, 03:54 AM
Firefox in virtual box /w XP is running circles around Firefox in Linux. What gives?

monsterstack
May 10th, 2009, 04:03 AM
I think it has something to do with Linux Firefox's use of libraries. A possibly speedier alternative you might want to try is Swiftfox (http://getswiftfox.com/) [getswiftfox.com].

Viranh
May 10th, 2009, 04:04 AM
Not that I've seen. Windows starts firefox so sloooowly. It seems to prefetch a lot of things. I do not notice a speed difference once they're started. Is there some way to truly measure this? I've also noticed that Windows and linux seem to handle my wireless connections differently, affecting download speeds and firefox's speed.

RedSingularity
May 10th, 2009, 04:04 AM
No problem here.

Sealbhach
May 10th, 2009, 04:06 AM
I use Firefox 3.6a1. I think the 3.0 version is a lot slower. The new 3.5 version will be zippier.

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dspari1
May 10th, 2009, 04:10 AM
I use Firefox 3.6a1. I think the 3.0 version is a lot slower. The new 3.5 version will be zippier.

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yeah, I'm using 3.0.10

I may try to change to a beta version if it improves speed.

Einsamkeit
May 10th, 2009, 04:12 AM
I get better performances with FF from Ubuntu than XP, no slowing down, hanging up or anything.
Altho some sites may or may not make the whole thing cranky, especially with graphic-intensive ads, with flash and everything.. Hell, those even make desktop computer grind its teeth.

EDIT: Forgot to add, using 3.0.10 on both machines.

Ewingo401
May 10th, 2009, 04:13 AM
I wouldn't say the Linux version of Firefox is slow. But I have noticed that the Windows version of Firefox running through WINE is noticably faster, at least on my system. I'm hoping Firefox 3.5 speeds up the Linux version a bit.

thisllub
May 10th, 2009, 06:41 AM
Addons make a difference too.
Opera and Midori are both faster.

RiceMonster
May 10th, 2009, 06:52 AM
I've never noticed any difference. I don't know what people are talking about saying it's faster on Windows.

x33a
May 10th, 2009, 06:57 AM
firefox starts slow both on windows and ubuntu, and i don't see much difference in memory usage on either platforms.

medicalystoned
May 10th, 2009, 07:08 AM
my last remaining windows machine has 1 gig of ram, the kubuntu machine i am on right now has 256k, and it runs circles around windows. I have all kinds of add-ons and use speed dial on my firefox with linux, and basic ff with windows, linux smokes windows, hands down.............. peace

dspari1
May 10th, 2009, 07:08 AM
I've never noticed any difference. I don't know what people are talking about saying it's faster on Windows.

I notice people saying that even Firefox with wine seems to run faster. I think there is a problem with the 3.0.10 release. I'm not sure. Hopefully, the next major release of Firefox will be as fast as its Windows counterpart.

stwschool
May 10th, 2009, 07:11 AM
Swiftfox is your friend. I've just installed it, it's fast. Don't worry, it picks up your old history, add-ons, bookmarks, etc and you can have both on your machine at once so you won't lose anything. Deb packages are available.

monsterstack
May 10th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Swiftfox is your friend. I've just installed it, it's fast. Don't worry, it picks up your old history, add-ons, bookmarks, etc and you can have both on your machine at once so you won't lose anything. Deb packages are available.

He's right, you know.

sports fan Matt
May 10th, 2009, 07:16 AM
I wonder if swiftfox is installed, it would break if Firefox was uninstalled

dspari1
May 10th, 2009, 07:23 AM
He's right, you know.

I'm going to install it.

itreius
May 10th, 2009, 08:22 AM
The actual browser doesn't feel that different, but tests (Sunspider, and other benchmarks) suggest that the Linux version really is slower than the Windows and Mac OS counterparts.

HavocXphere
May 10th, 2009, 08:52 AM
Firefox in virtual box /w XP is running circles around Firefox in Linux. What gives?
I've read about that...but I don't see it. And I'm pretty sure that the original report on this focused on Javascript performance.

IMO the *nix FF starts faster than win FF.

One thing I can say though is that FF starts *way* faster on Gnome than on KDE. As in very noticeably faster.

Slight de-rail: I wonder whether ext4 makes a difference in this...

stwschool
May 10th, 2009, 08:59 AM
He's right, you know.
I do that a lot ;)

dLeon
May 10th, 2009, 09:00 AM
FF Linux & FF Windows work perfectly for me. Speed from clean start equally same, both never crash. Copied FF Windows to my Ubuntu (or the other way around) account also doesn't make any big threats. I also happen to use FF extensions I downloaded myself, not from Ubuntu repos.
If its problematic, I think the main problem is from Firefox build itself, not because we're using Windows or Linux.

stwschool
May 10th, 2009, 09:06 AM
I wonder if swiftfox is installed, it would break if Firefox was uninstalled
Probably not given how package management works on Ubuntu. Don't forget, most packages will list their dependencies so that nothing breaks, so if you uninstall firefox, it'll take firefox off, but if apps are dependent upon parts of it, they'll be left behind (that's my understanding anyway).

Also, opening up the package and looking at installed files, it looks like it puts content in the /usr/lib/swiftfox/ folder rather than /usr/lib/firefox/ or anything similar, so the two can co-exist quite happily. The only caveat is that launching firefox now seems to launch swiftfox, which I didn't expect, and may indicate some links between them.

jespdj
May 10th, 2009, 09:10 AM
i've never noticed any difference. I don't know what people are talking about saying it's faster on windows.

+1 ! It runs fine on Ubuntu, just like on Windows. I don't notice any difference. Maybe benchmarks show that it's slower, but it's not something that's really noticeable.

What exactly is slower according to the people who say so? Displaying pages? Loading pages?

Jay_Bee
May 10th, 2009, 10:02 AM
For me JavaScript performance is noticeably slower than in FF on windows.
Good example would be www.chromeexperiments.com (http://www.chromeexperiments.com) which is laggy on linux but not on windows.

dLeon
May 10th, 2009, 01:13 PM
For me JavaScript performance is noticeably slower than in FF on windows.
Good example would be www.chromeexperiments.com (http://www.chromeexperiments.com) which is laggy on linux but not on windows.

No... I test the site you mention; gone through everywhere there (not all), the site just find. It load in speeding bullet on my system.
Are you sure not just because your connection?

BTW, Is that page somekind of Chrome test site?

Bölvağur
May 10th, 2009, 01:22 PM
it must be a new update that did it. Firefox began to be slow for me like 3 days ago.

dLeon
May 10th, 2009, 01:34 PM
it must be a new update that did it.

Complete version please...

Mine is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042523 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.10

LightB
May 10th, 2009, 02:22 PM
the kubuntu machine i am on right now has 256k

Wow, that's amazing!

LightB
May 10th, 2009, 02:27 PM
For me JavaScript performance is noticeably slower than in FF on windows.
Good example would be www.chromeexperiments.com (http://www.chromeexperiments.com) which is laggy on linux but not on windows.

If you're talking about the flash pages, that's flash, no need to blame firefox. It's adobe's fault. Yes, flash is slow on linux.

Skripka
May 10th, 2009, 02:30 PM
my last remaining windows machine has 1 gig of ram, the kubuntu machine i am on right now has 256k

You must mean megabytes. *buntu will not even install on a system with 256k, and it certainly will not run.

Skripka
May 10th, 2009, 02:32 PM
Addons make a difference too.
Opera and Midori are both faster.

Any Webkit based browser will be faster....especially the minimalist ones.


Heck, run Konqueror with the Webkit backend instead of KHTML and it is just as fast as Arora or Midori.

stwschool
May 10th, 2009, 02:35 PM
If you're talking about the flash pages, that's flash, no need to blame firefox. It's adobe's fault. Yes, flash is slow on linux.
They ain't Flash, they're javascript. Pure javascript. People underestimate what you can do with it, personally I'm a huge fan of it and use it extensively in the web applications that I build.

RATM_Owns
May 10th, 2009, 02:37 PM
No.

(I compiled my own Firefox Beta with PGO)

Redundant Username
May 10th, 2009, 02:41 PM
In Windows, it doesn't lock up and freeze all the time. I might try the beta to see if it is more stable.

LightB
May 10th, 2009, 02:44 PM
They ain't Flash, they're javascript. Pure javascript. People underestimate what you can do with it, personally I'm a huge fan of it and use it extensively in the web applications that I build.

I clearly saw flash on some of those experiment pages.

joey-elijah
May 10th, 2009, 02:50 PM
I've never noticed any difference. I don't know what people are talking about saying it's faster on Windows.

Firefox launches in less than 0.5 second in Windows 7, takes about 5 seconds to launch in Ubuntu x64... Midori, Epiphany, Opera etc all take less than a second to launch in Ubuntu.

As for insulting me and anyone else who doesn't agree with you as "not knowing what we're talking about" there are benchmarks that prove firefox run through WINE runs quicker than Firefox on Ubuntu proper.

http://tuxradar.com/content/browser-benchmarks-2-even-wine-beats-linux-firefox

stwschool
May 10th, 2009, 02:55 PM
Ok I may have missed that, in which case I stand corrected, but most of them are 100% javascript, the point being to demonstrate the power of javascript in Chrome's JS engine.
As I said before, people seem to think that rich animated and interactive content is only possible with plugins like flash but javascript is incredibly powerful once you start to really mess with it, especially when you play with AJAX as well.

qamelian
May 10th, 2009, 03:20 PM
Firefox launches in less than 0.5 second in Windows 7, takes about 5 seconds to launch in Ubuntu x64... Midori, Epiphany, Opera etc all take less than a second to launch in Ubuntu.

As for insulting me and anyone else who doesn't agree with you as "not knowing what we're talking about" there are benchmarks that prove firefox run through WINE runs quicker than Firefox on Ubuntu proper.

http://tuxradar.com/content/browser-benchmarks-2-even-wine-beats-linux-firefox
And those benchmarks may not reflect performance on every machine. On both of my systems at home, there is no noticeable difference in performance in Firefox between Windows or Linux, and it launches and performs much slower in wine. That may not be everyone's experience, but it is mine.