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artir
May 6th, 2009, 03:08 PM
http://www.laquadrature.net/en/amendment-138-46-adopted-again

monsterstack
May 6th, 2009, 03:15 PM
The fourth element I would like to underline is the recognition of the right to Internet access. The new rules recognise explicitly that Internet access is a fundamental right such as the freedom of expression and the freedom to access information. The rules therefore provide that any measures taken regarding access to, or use of, services and applications must respect the fundamental rights and freedoms of natural persons, including the right to privacy, freedom of expression and access to information and education as well as due process.

Brilliant news. :)

More about it here (http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=338&Itemid=9) [iptegrity.com].

capnthommo
May 6th, 2009, 10:28 PM
:)
On the other hand, citizens now need to be extra vigilant that this vote is not eradicated again in the third reading, when the Council will once again try to get the upper hand. They also now have a time lag to educate MEPs and their national politicians on Internet issues. :)

hi everybody
this looks good, but it seems there is still scope for the legislation to come back again. we shouldn't head for the bar and a congratulatory after match beer just yet. they could still steal the win while we're backslapping and applauding ourselves.
remember "the price of freedom is constant vigilance" so well done everybody but it is certainly not over yet.
time perhaps to write to our MEPs again and say thanks for your work but we will be watching you!
also it would be worth checking to see how our own MEPs voted and if necessary reminding them that there will be an election before too long and they will be needing our votes.
sorry to be cynical but let's not give up til the ref blows the final whistle.
cheers
nigel (using far too much sports based metaphor)
:guitar:

ice60
May 6th, 2009, 11:22 PM
this small article sums up perfectly how the EU works when a vote goes against them -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3707704/Undemocratic-EU-bullies-Ireland-into-another-vote.html

if the eu wants something they'll keep voting on it until they get the yes vote they want.

BuffaloX
May 6th, 2009, 11:54 PM
I wonder if this could somehow render the Danish media-license illegal?
It's an Internet tax you have to pay, because Danish Television offer their content on the Internet.

If you have Internet in Denmark you MUST pay tax for TV, isn't that against the philosophy of free expression on the Internet?

chris200x9
May 7th, 2009, 12:21 AM
bad wording to say the least: "fundamental right" BS what's next socialized internet? I'm to poor for internet but it's a fundamental right, the government shoulld pay for it for me. What's next "AAAAH...governments only paying for a 50KB/s connection for me...it's INHUMANE!!!!!!!!!!!!"

BuffaloX
May 7th, 2009, 12:33 AM
bad wording to say the least: "fundamental right" BS what's next socialized internet? I'm to poor for internet but it's a fundamental right, the government shoulld pay for it for me. What's next "AAAAH...governments only paying for a 50KB/s connection for me...it's INHUMANE!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Sorry I find your post a bit infantile.
It would be like saying free speech should mean the government should pay for your air time, if you wanted to make a statement to the nation.

Are you against free speech?

monsterstack
May 7th, 2009, 12:35 AM
bad wording to say the least: "fundamental right" BS what's next socialized internet? I'm to poor for internet but it's a fundamental right, the government shoulld pay for it for me. What's next "AAAAH...governments only paying for a 50KB/s connection for me...it's INHUMANE!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Troll much? Or are you just a fool? Did you even read any of the linked articles? This isn't about socialism; it's about liberty. Amendment 138 is about protecting users from having their connections cut off, stopping service providers from blocking protocols, services or applications they don't like or marginalising aspects of the internet in general. This means that the next time you go to read some random political blog, it won't be censored, you won't be prompted to give your ISP your credit card number for accessing obscure content, and it'll load as quickly as it is meant to. Do you honestly believe any of those things are somehow disadvantageous?

pantone186
May 7th, 2009, 12:48 AM
bad wording to say the least: "fundamental right" BS what's next socialized internet? I'm to poor for internet but it's a fundamental right, the government shoulld pay for it for me. What's next "AAAAH...governments only paying for a 50KB/s connection for me...it's INHUMANE!!!!!!!!!!!!"




so i guess you pay for ubuntu and the use of this forum then?


the internet is socialised, html, css, php, apache, mysql etc all free

benj1
May 7th, 2009, 12:57 AM
freedom of access to information.

does this mean we can sue IE only web sites ???


seriously im quite surprised i would have thought they would be legislating for the opposite