View Full Version : MASSIVE Internet Censorship! Act now!

May 4th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Please read the wall of text! However long it is :P!

Don't let the EU parliament lock up the Internet! There will be no way back!

Act now!
Internet access is not conditional

Everyone who owns a website has an interest in defending the free use of Internet... so has everyone who uses Google or Skype... everyone who expresses their opinions freely, does research of any kind, whether for personal health problems or academic study ... everyone who shops online...who dates online...socialises online... listens to music...watches video...
Millions of Europeans now depend on the Internet, directly or indirectly, for their livelihood. Taking it away, chopping it up, ‘restricting it', ‘limiting it' and placing conditions on our use of it, will have a direct impact on people's earnings. And in the current financial climate, that can't be good.

The internet as we know it is at risk because of proposed new EU rules going through end of April. Under the proposed new rules, broadband providers will be legally able to limit the number of websites you can look
at, and to tell you whether or not you are allowed to use particular services. It will be dressed up as ‘new consumer options' which people can choose from. People will be offered TV-like packages - with a limited
number of options for you to access.
It means that the Internet will be packaged up and your ability to access and to put up content could be severely restricted. It will create boxes of Internet accessibility, which don't fit with the way we use it today. This is because internet is now permitting exchanges between persons which cannot be controlled or "facilitated" by any middlemen (the state or a corporation) and this possibility improves the citizen's life but force the industry to lose power and control. that's why they are pushing governments to act those changes.
The excuse is to control the flow of music, films and entertainment content against the alleged piracy by downloading for free, using P2P file-sharing. However, the real victims of this plan will be all Internet users and the democratic and independent access to information, culture goods.
Think about how you use the Internet! What would it mean to you if free access to the Internet was taken away?
These days, the Internet is about life and freedom. It's about shopping, booking theatre tickets ... holidays, learning, job-seeking, banking, and trade. It's also about the fun things - dating, chatting, invitations, music, entertainment, joking and even a Second Life. It is a tool to express ourselves, to collaborate, innovate, share, stimulate new business ideas, reach new markets - thrive without middlemen..
Just think - what's your web address? Unless people have that address in their "package" of regular websites - they won't be able to find you. That means they can't buy, or book, or register, or even view you online. Your business won't be able to find niche suppliers of goods - and compare prices. If you get any money at all from advertising on your site, it will diminish. Yes, Amazon and a select few will be OK, they will be the included in the package. But your advertising on Google or any other website, will be increasingly worthless. Skype could be blocked. (As it is in Germany in the use from iPhone, already). Small businesses could literally disappear, especially specialist, niche or artisan businesses.
If we don't do something now - we could lose free and open use of the internet. Our freedom (of choice in information, market, culture, pleasure) will be curtailed. The EU proposals hold an enormous risk for our future. They are about to become Law - and will be virtually impossible to reverse. People (even the members of the European Parliament who are voting on it) don't really seem to understand the full implications and the legal changes are wrapped up in something called "Telecoms Package" which lulls people into thinking it is just about industry.
However, in reality, hiding from public view, the amendments are about the way the Internet will operate in future! Text that expresses your rights to access and distribute content, services and applications, is being crossed out. And the text that is being brought in, says that broadband providers must inform you of any limitations, or restrictions to your broadband service. Alternative versions use the word ‘conditions' - and it is seriously being proposed that you will be told the conditions of use of Internet services. This is made to sound good - it is dressed up as ‘transparency' - except that of course it means that the broadband providerwill have the legal right restrict your access or impose conditions,otherwise why would they need tell you? If the Telecoms Package amendmentsare voted in, the changes will not be reversible.
We all have a stake in the Internet! You need to act now to save it!
What can you do about it?
Tell the European Parliament to vote against conditional access to the Internet! Remind them that they need your vote in June and that internet still give us the tools to be watching and judging what they are doing! (link a la quadrature du net) You must know you are not alone: hundreds of organizations are working on that and thousands of people have already contact their parliamentarians about this issue.

May 4th, 2009, 12:39 PM
Well, I'm Australian, so I have no say in this. But you are absolutely correct that the Internet should never ever be censored. If the EU censors the Internet, how long until the rest of the world follows suit? I wish there was something I could do, but I strongly agree with you and all EU citizens should definitely contact their local politicians.

May 4th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Thanks. :)

May 4th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Dam, I hope Canada doesn't get this... Good luck to the UK.

May 4th, 2009, 12:52 PM
That's pretty bad, but at least you're not getting censorship like us folks in Australia.


They're even planning on blocking Bittorrent traffic.

May 4th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Ouch :S, This is results of the Corporates wanting to destroy P2P... I think

May 4th, 2009, 01:15 PM


May 4th, 2009, 01:20 PM
I'm just about to read the inked article, I have been waiting for this to happen for a while, I just hope it does not get through!

I live in the UK and spend 99% of my free time online, this could completely destroy thousands of businesses!

Not happy,


May 4th, 2009, 01:29 PM
This is a joke, right?

May 4th, 2009, 01:33 PM
This is a joke, right?

This is not a joke, check out the facebook group!




May 4th, 2009, 01:45 PM
I hope it'll get rejected.

May 4th, 2009, 02:58 PM
For those who are reading about this issue for the first time:
No, it is not limited to the UK. Canada and the US have both been struggling with similar issues of Net Neutrality for some time now.

There have been minor victories in the US, with Verizon cancelling their throttling (but with no other changes in sight), but Canada has been steadily losing ground, with over half of the country throttled and with the introduction of usage-based billing (which is in essence, double-billing), on the horizon.

Now, as for the OP, please take it with a grain of salt. What they are talking about is a worst-case scenario.

Something like what they are planning would require a complete overhaul of the internet and its ISPs. In essence, every single ISP would have to be in on it. Now, with big businesses controlling most media and technology outlets, it is actually possible, but it's still a difficult proposition to get off the ground, especially as this affects every single person, and not in a positive way.

What you, as a concerned citizen, should do, is to become educated on the issue of Net Neutrality in your country. Be able to defend your view of a truly free internet, and be able to spread the word to others about why you believe what you believe.

May 4th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Hmm, I just got a letter from my MEP:

Thank you very much for your email raising concerns about the Telecoms Package. I entirely agree with you that consumers should be able to freely use the Internet and benefit from its immense potential. We should all be able to decide which service we wish to subscribe to, in line with our own preferences with respect to the type of service and content we want to access.

Unfortunately I fear that you have been misled with respect to the proposed changes to the EU communications framework laws. The reforms are intended to open up choice and competition, not restrict it. Existing National laws across the EU already allow operators to provide differentiated services, accommodating the diverse needs and desires of consumers across the market place.

The purpose of this review is to increase consumer protection, by strengthening operators’ obligations to be transparent and provide information on contract conditions, including any limitations or restrictions which may apply to the services in question. In order for competition to operate effectively in the consumer interest, consumers need to be fully informed of the terms on which the services they contract for are provided, and they should also be free to switch providers easily and at no additional cost.
In addition, we are also increasing the enforcement powers of national regulators, enabling them to take action against operators who are in breach of regulatory obligations, and empowering them to impose minimum quality of service requirements on all operators.

These quality obligations would ensure that operators are not able to degrade, throttle or block applications, content or services in ways which are anticompetitive.

The current Framework has worked very well in driving the development of Internet services, and promoting fierce competition and high levels of innovation, to the benefit of all European citizens and European competitiveness. The major improvements we are making to the rules will provide incentives for investment in new broadband and wireless services.

Conservative MEPs in the European Parliament are committed to strong and active consumers in an open and competitive market. We will continue to work, in this and other initiatives, to ensure that your rights to access a wide range of content and services over the Internet continue to be safeguarded.

Yours sincerely,

Daniel Hannan

What UTTER BS! He's obviously been swayed into thinking its just "Industry" And won't affect internets greatly... This is all Corprates again!

May 5th, 2009, 02:56 AM
It's for your own good, Citizen. Now eat your soylent green and forget about it.


May 5th, 2009, 03:06 AM
it'll never happen.

May 5th, 2009, 03:17 AM
It's actually the US that you need to worry about. That's that the western world will follow. There have been some on and off victories here over internet neutrality. Check out this site http://www.savetheinternet.com/

And you know, it's not that it would be censored, it's that they'd make you pay a lot more for "real" internet while the rest of the bums surf on a big corporate commercial.

May 5th, 2009, 04:13 AM
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