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dentaku65
May 1st, 2009, 10:00 AM
Hi all,
many of us have sadly discover that from Juanty the Amarok 1.4 player is not available as upstream to install (due to the fact that is not developed anymore by Amarok Team); in substitution we get Amarok 2 that have in common with Amarok 1.4 only the name.

How can this happen?

Fortunately a PPA repository is available to install Amarok 1.4 in Jaunty; a big, big thanks to Bogdan Butnaru that make this possible.
https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa

Amarok and the other one cannot coexist together, so in order to use Amarok we have to remove Amarok 2. Here the steps:

Edit your APT sources:

sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Add at the end of the file the following lines and save it:

# amarok 1.4
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
Add the signature for the repository:

sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AE74AE63
Install Amarok:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get remove amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok14
Done!

Discussions for your convenience:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/amarok/
http://nomad.ca/blog/2009/apr/3/amarok-14-jaunty-ubuntu-904/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051538&highlight=amarok
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/84zux/who_else_feels_amarok2_is_a_huge_dissapointment/
http://www.lastfm.it/group/Amarok+Users/forum/18538/_/515569

skotos
May 3rd, 2009, 02:43 AM
Though I have voted for Amarok 2, it is sad to admit that it lacks many features and that some are broken too (how many might be Jaunty related?).
Currently I just hope its development/integration goes on quickly and reaches the top quality of version 1.4: incredibly and definitely the best mm player ever.

Some of the new plugins are really nice and I have started enjoying them, but - for sure - the version change makes you expect a miracle since you know the heights reached by the previous one and, instead, you have to face the tough reality that version 2 cannot be considered for production: it is sadly an alpha / pre-release version of what it will be.

Anyway, to me, amarok 2 still is far better than other players which cannot simply be compared to this bugged/broken and still under development version.

Eisenwinter
May 3rd, 2009, 03:16 AM
I suggest you switch a distro.

Zoowey
May 3rd, 2009, 03:19 AM
I use Amarok 2 but I actually voted for 1.4 simply because I find it to be more stable and 2.0.2 is simply missing some good features that 1.4 had.

collinp
May 3rd, 2009, 03:56 AM
They cant change something that major in the repos now, excluding security updates, the repos are frozen.

dox_drum
May 3rd, 2009, 03:58 AM
I loved Amarok, until version 2... the deception made me unistall it and stick to rhythmbox.

Zoowey
May 3rd, 2009, 04:09 AM
They cant change something that major in the repos now, excluding security updates, the repos are frozen.

They can at least keep Amarok 2 as default but still offer 1.4 as a alternative. There are many programs that have their new and older versions in the repository, I don't see why the same can't be said about Amarok.

dentaku65
May 3rd, 2009, 10:56 AM
I suggest you switch a distro.

..and why? :confused:
It is much more, let's say, realistic, changing the music player instead...

dentaku65
May 3rd, 2009, 11:10 AM
Though I have voted for Amarok 2, it is sad to admit that it lacks many features and that some are broken too (how many might be Jaunty related?).
Currently I just hope its development/integration goes on quickly and reaches the top quality of version 1.4: incredibly and definitely the best mm player ever.

Some of the new plugins are really nice and I have started enjoying them, but - for sure - the version change makes you expect a miracle since you know the heights reached by the previous one and, instead, you have to face the tough reality that version 2 cannot be considered for production: it is sadly an alpha / pre-release version of what it will be.

Anyway, to me, amarok 2 still is far better than other players which cannot simply be compared to this bugged/broken and still under development version.

To me the two amaroks have in common only the name; during the Intrepid time I've used the Neon repository (for Amarok2) in order to use both and they are not comparable, in my opinion first of all is the lack of u s a b i l i t y.

I know this petition is silly for the idea to have Amarok back in the upstream, but at least we can post on Amarok forum the result of their users expression; if you lurck in the Amarok forum many critics are addressed as troll opinion and this I really dislike; so that's why the idea of petition.

...and hu, no kebap after 1.00am in Milano, Italy :-)

reyfer
May 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM
I'm not sure what the usability problems are on Ubuntu, but at least for me using Kubuntu, Amarok 2 is still great and still does everything I need it to do

toupeiro
May 3rd, 2009, 05:00 PM
I miss all the scripts that 1.4 had. Outside of this, I could really care less. Yes it looks different, and yes I did really like 1.4 but IMO its still better than anything else I've used. Its nowhere near "unusable". But, I do hope it adopts more scripts than it currently has!

mister_pink
May 3rd, 2009, 05:08 PM
I really don't see the big deal. On gnome it doesn't seem to be a massive leap forward or anything, but its certainly not worse. Dare I say it - its hardly that different at all really.

Nothing will get changed though unless you make specific comments. "Its not as good as the old one" doesn't help at all.

LightB
May 3rd, 2009, 05:09 PM
Too complicated

LoGinthebest
May 3rd, 2009, 05:14 PM
I voted for Amarok 1.4. I think it is better.

dentaku65
May 3rd, 2009, 05:16 PM
I really don't see the big deal. On gnome it doesn't seem to be a massive leap forward or anything, but its certainly not worse. Dare I say it - its hardly that different at all really.

Nothing will get changed though unless you make specific comments. "Its not as good as the old one" doesn't help at all.

Updated 1st post:
Discussions for your convenience:
:-)

SomeGuyDude
May 3rd, 2009, 06:06 PM
I voted for Amarok 2 because asking the devs to constantly keep old versions of software available upstream is just ridiculous.

I've got a wacky idea: how about instead of complaining and asking for 1.4 back, express your concerns to the Amarok team and see if you can get those features back in the NEXT one.

Guilden_NL
May 3rd, 2009, 09:23 PM
2.0 just caused me to upgrade to 1.4 and I am now trying many other apps in case the Amorok team doesn't get a clue about how bad 2.0 is. I can't think of a worse regression for a previously excellent app in the entire 13 years I have run Linux. Two thumbs down for Amorok 2.0!

khelben1979
May 3rd, 2009, 09:49 PM
I voted for version 1.4 since it's part of the Debian Lenny release. Works good.

scratman
May 3rd, 2009, 10:11 PM
I got 2.0 like everybody else with the 9.04 upgrade/install, and it just does not do the job. The different UI I can live with, but I personally think that if there's music in the playlist, and I press the play button, I wanna hear noise.

Call me fussy, but a music player that doesn't play music is no use to me. It wasn't a codec problemn because VLC and Totem could handle the files. It also felt slower building the library initially, and hung when adding a long list of files to the playlist.

I love 1.4, and I imagine that there are no more than a few bugs in 2.0 that need to be ironed out with the next update, but currently, I do not feel that Amarok 2.0 is fit for purpose, and for that reeason we should be able to install 1.4 from the repos. If a new user comes from, Windows to 9.04, and thinks that Amarok 2.0 is the only music player available, that Windows disc will be back in the drive by tea time, and I wouldn't blame them.

Guilden_NL
May 3rd, 2009, 10:41 PM
I got 2.0 like everybody else with the 9.04 upgrade/install, and it just does not do the job. The different UI I can live with, but I personally think that if there's music in the playlist, and I press the play button, I wanna hear noise.

Call me fussy, but a music player that doesn't play music is no use to me. It wasn't a codec problemn because VLC and Totem could handle the files. It also felt slower building the library initially, and hung when adding a long list of files to the playlist.

I agree scratman, I had the same problems. Also no support of devices as 1.4 expertly handled them the first time I plugged one of three that I regularly synched with Amarok.

I think that there are more than a few bugs, from the bug logs, it looks like Amarok has been a complete mess for well over a year in development. The sad thing is that it's quite well known, so I am scratching my head at the Ubuntu team that added it to the Jaunty distro. I remember full releases of Firefox and Open Office missing the release candidate and they were well into a very polished release before Ubuntu was.

Someone on the Ubuntu team should reconsider and pull Amarok 2.0 out of the repo and allow everyone to revert back to it, and all those not yet upgraded to Jaunty to have 1.4.

I am going to do some work in the yard and don't have time to mess about with this now. Will drop back to XP to use Winamp to synch the music I want to listen to now.

meho_r
May 3rd, 2009, 11:13 PM
To me the two amaroks have in common only the name; during the Intrepid time I've used the Neon repository (for Amarok2) in order to use both and they are not comparable, in my opinion first of all is the lack of u s a b i l i t y.


I agree on that. Please, take a look at amarok usability report (http://weblog.obso1337.org/2009/amarok-playlist-usability-testing/)

I liked amarok 1.4 much. In fact, after v.2 I switched the player and using Exaile now. Too bad, amarok was the best player ever and was so promising, but in the shape it is now, it's only one of many :(

Roasted
May 3rd, 2009, 11:47 PM
Amarok2 looks nice, but the fact they stripped features makes it downright useless. I ditched it in a heartbeat and got a hold of Exaile which I find to be far superior to Amarok2 due to the customizability.

Amarok2 just painted a big black spot over their name. Amarok1 will always be the top dog between the two.

KAMiKAZOW
May 4th, 2009, 01:47 AM
This poll is stupid, because it only talks about "Amarok 2", not "Amarok 2.0" or "Amarok 2.1". Despite being still beta, Amarok 2.1 is a huge improvement over 2.0. Canonical should've included that one, not 2.0.

meho_r
May 4th, 2009, 10:49 AM
This poll is stupid, because it only talks about "Amarok 2", not "Amarok 2.0" or "Amarok 2.1". Despite being still beta, Amarok 2.1 is a huge improvement over 2.0. Canonical should've included that one, not 2.0.

I would like to share that opinion of yours. Unfortunately, all I noticed is that some plugins don't work anymore (lyricswiki being one of them). But 2.1 is still beta...

canadiandude007
May 4th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Does this version fix the Wikipedia display bug?

dentaku65
May 4th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Does this version fix the Wikipedia display bug?

Was fixed while ago
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/316140
(seek the post of Max libamarok.so.0.0.0)
but at the moment seems that wikipedia change again the headers... someone else can confirm this?

george1984
May 4th, 2009, 11:25 AM
Hello

I use Amarok1.4 as a library catalog and management system. I can not use Amarok2 effectively for this purpose. This situation is unlikely to change with time as Amarok2 is effectively a new App. with a different philosophy.

Blogdan's ppa enables me to continue running Amarok14, for which I an hugely grateful.

There has been considerable discussion on this subject here ...



http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1084971

skotos
May 5th, 2009, 01:56 AM
...and hu, no kebap after 1.00am in Milano, Italy :-)But a coffee is always hot and ready to go! (American and/or expresso as well!) LOL

hockeyhead019
May 5th, 2009, 02:06 AM
voted for v2 but i do agree with the previous posts about usability and other reasons... but i think people need to use v2 and help the devs work out the bugs in order to get it back up to the usability... just my opinion

monsterstack
May 5th, 2009, 02:39 AM
Hello

I use Amarok1.4 as a library catalog and management system. I can not use Amarok2 effectively for this purpose. This situation is unlikely to change with time as Amarok2 is effectively a new App. with a different philosophy.

Blogdan's ppa enables me to continue running Amarok14, for which I an hugely grateful.

There has been considerable discussion on this subject here ...



http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1084971

I know exactly what you mean.

Say you have a bunch of songs by a band like At the Drive-in. I had a bunch of mp3s with as many different spelling variations as you can think of. I loaded them into the playlist, selected the lot of them, and then right-clicked on the one file that was properly tagged and selected the option to apply that name to all of the songs in the playlist.

And bam. A laborious task in other players, and I did it in just a few clicks. Functionality that bests most specialised music organisation applications in one fell swoop.

It's these kind of usability bits of awesomeness that made me fall in love with Amarok 1.4. The 2.x series so far has left me disappointed.

der_joachim
May 5th, 2009, 10:45 AM
..and why? :confused:
It is much more, let's say, realistic, changing the music player instead...

Hear hear! I know plenty of reasons to switch distros, but a mere media player is not one.

davidsmind
May 5th, 2009, 10:59 AM
I just upgraded to Jaunty this morning.

After 2 or 3 hours of trying to load my 50,000+ file collection into Amarok 2.X and failing (by directly loading the material, by loading a list of directories, by trying to import my old amarok settings using the supplied tool)

I finally got my files in the collection pane. Ok, so I've got a collection, now I add some files to the playlist section, awesome.

After listening to the album, I select and right click the songs, I want to add them to my collection...turns out one cannot do this any more. Insane.

Amarok 2.X is, as others have said, a different beast than 1.4.

I'm very happy about amarok14 and look forward to seeing if someone forks amarok 1.4 and compiles it against QT4.

dentaku65
May 5th, 2009, 10:31 PM
Hear hear! I know plenty of reasons to switch distros, but a mere media player is not one.

Is what I'm saying

:-)

Bloemetjesgordijn
May 8th, 2009, 06:55 AM
Hi guys

Maybe you can help me

I am using Amarok 1.4 in Januty and now suddenly I have no sound in Amarok 1.4..???

Amarok 1.4 says Xine is busy


Doe you have the same experience???


Cheerz

Bloemetjesgordijn

MikeTheC
May 8th, 2009, 07:01 AM
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm all for...

Amarok re-thinking it's user interface
Amarok being more easily configurable for searching
Amarok having better and more extensive iPod support

lil_rich
May 8th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Just curious, is it possible to have both Amarok versions installed? It would be nice to play with Amarok2, but use Amarok14 if I just want to play something?

Roasted
May 8th, 2009, 08:52 PM
I like how Amarok2 stripped away so many configurable settings. With Amarok1 I was able to listen to YouTube while Amarok was open. I had to switch an audio engine setting to make that happen. In Amarok2, I cannot find it whatsoever.

So now, I use Exaile.

Win.

dentaku65
May 9th, 2009, 02:52 AM
Just curious, is it possible to have both Amarok versions installed? It would be nice to play with Amarok2, but use Amarok14 if I just want to play something?

I supposed yes through Neon PPA repo
https://launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive/ppa
But I don't know what happens if you are running on KDE env; I think it's ok with Gnome.

loneowais
May 16th, 2009, 10:04 AM
I've switched to SONGBIRD.
You should do the same.. It's just awesome

Trail
May 16th, 2009, 10:34 AM
Anyone else seeing the similarities by people not initially liking KDE4.0 and people not initially liking amarok2.0? Inertia.

You don't like it because you're not feeling comfortable after seeing it change so much. That's understandable. But don't say it sucks because you can't right click to add files to your playlist or you don't like big buttons and meaningless crap like that. Amarok2 does have issues, amarok1 also has issues and they always will.

You could whine about it, you can resist upgrading, or you can actually spend 20 minutes with it and see it's not really all that different from 1.4.

Hint hint, the latest 2.1 beta is out.

Paqman
May 16th, 2009, 10:44 AM
If you don't like Amarok2 just switch a different player. The Amarok devs will get the message through the PopCon data.

As for the claim of inertia, that's probably part of it. Speaking for myself though, I admit I disliked Amarok2 from the get-go, but i've been using Amarok for years and wanted to give it a chance. It was only inertia that made it take a couple of months to drop Amarok in favour of Banshee. I'm actually pretty glad I did, btw. Banshee is great.

dentaku65
May 16th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Anyone else seeing the similarities by people not initially liking KDE4.0 and people not initially liking amarok2.0? Inertia.

...

I totally agree... in fact I've switched from KDE to Gnome ):P
...but this is another story.

TuxOtaku
May 16th, 2009, 08:51 PM
The biggest thing for me with Amarok 2, is the lack of support for ANY sort of portable media device...honestly...WTF guys?? what happened there? decide to release it before it was FINISHED, just like you did with the rest of KDE 4?

Honestly, someone needs to do one of two things here, fork Amarok 1.4 into a GTK-based project, or get Exaile's mobile device support up to snuff with Amarok 1.4.

At this point I have to say to the KDE devs, I'm very disappointed in you...KDE 3.5 was awesome, and then you had to muck with it and make it into the unusable, clunky, worthless pile of wank and fail that I have ever seen. Big thumbs down again guys...you've dropped the ball so many times, you should just get off the damn court.

And as a result, I'm forced to use sub-par programs to sync my iPod...like rhythmbox and gtkpod...neither of which even tell you how much space is left on the device...fail again.

A HUUUUGE thank you though, to Mr. Bogdan Butnaru for setting up a PPA for Amarok 1.4. You sir, are a prince and a scholar, and I think we are all grateful for your efforts....you're ever in Toronto, look me up, I owe you a beer. ;)

Cyb3rD0n Architectus
May 25th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Thanks dentaku65,

I've tried Amarok 2 for a week now and it sucks bigtime. My entire collection of 15000+ tracks lost all their statistics and ratings because the import function kept crashing Amarok. Although using Gnome, the previous version only crashed once. Now I followed your instructions and went back to Amarok 1.4, with all stats and functions well functioning again (luckily I backup my @home/.kde/share/apps/amarok folder every two days!). Re-installed, copied the backup over it and I only lost two days of listening. Guess what I voted on this one...

Message to the new developers of Amarok: don't mess with my precious rating-stars! ;)

Noah_Kapiolani
May 25th, 2009, 07:41 PM
For me, as a newbie


Amarok 1.4 was an incredible player. Just Amarok and VLC and you could play about anythng in style. Now, at least to me, Amarok 2.0 is totally different and basicly not so smooth. After futzing with it for a short period of time and I'm back to 'ol Rythmbox for the music goodness.

At this point, I am beginning to realize something. Several programmers have found it necessary to tell me that Linux is not so hot because we have basicly no standardization. I replied that freedom of choice is a good thing, and if you want cookie-cutter then MS or Apple is the way to go. Now, having one of my main programs take a nose dive after going with 9.04 I am wondering if they have a point.

Amarok 1.4 should be a point and click install from the standard repositories

That and have 1.4 work seemlessly with the iPod and iPhone and iTouch and then, ladies and gentlemenm, we would really have a gaint killer

Aerotha
May 27th, 2009, 02:29 AM
Hi all,
many of us have sadly discover that from Juanty the Amarok 1.4 player is not available as upstream to install (due to the fact that is not developed anymore by Amarok Team); in substitution we get Amarok 2 that have in common with Amarok 1.4 only the name.

How can this happen?

Fortunately a PPA repository is available to install Amarok 1.4 in Jaunty; a big, big thanks to Bogdan Butnaru that make this possible.
https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa

Amarok and the other one cannot coexist together, so in order to use Amarok we have to remove Amarok 2. Here the steps:

Edit your APT sources:

sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Add at the end of the file the following lines and save it:

# amarok 1.4
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
Add the signature for the repository:

sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AE74AE63
Install Amarok:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get remove amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok14
Done!

Discussions for your convenience:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/amarok/
http://nomad.ca/blog/2009/apr/3/amarok-14-jaunty-ubuntu-904/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051538&highlight=amarok
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/84zux/who_else_feels_amarok2_is_a_huge_dissapointment/
http://www.lastfm.it/group/Amarok+Users/forum/18538/_/515569

I love you.

arsenic23
May 27th, 2009, 03:17 AM
I'll still be using hardy for a while on my main PCs, but this thread got me to install jaunty in a virtual computer just to see what was going on.

wow
Someone needs to tell the Amarok2 team, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Amarok seems to have went from, 'The linux music app, so good you'll use it in Gnome.' to 'Another wonky opensource music player.'

Now I don't follow KDE deveolopement (I didn't really like old KDE and new KDE seems way to out there to be usable for me.) but is the switchup with Amarok purely to make it inline with the new KDE setup?

Anyway, assuming they iron out some of the usability bugs in this new version, I seriously hope someone puts in an option to switch over to a more streamlined interface, because the only thing I want to see on a music player is lists of songs.

octavianus
June 10th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Hi all,
many of us have sadly discover that from Juanty the Amarok 1.4 player is not available as upstream to install (due to the fact that is not developed anymore by Amarok Team); in substitution we get Amarok 2 that have in common with Amarok 1.4 only the name.

How can this happen?

Fortunately a PPA repository is available to install Amarok 1.4 in Jaunty; a big, big thanks to Bogdan Butnaru that make this possible.
https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa

Amarok and the other one cannot coexist together, so in order to use Amarok we have to remove Amarok 2. Here the steps:

Edit your APT sources:

sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Add at the end of the file the following lines and save it:

# amarok 1.4
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/bogdanb/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
Add the signature for the repository:

sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AE74AE63
Install Amarok:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get remove amarok && sudo apt-get install amarok14
Done!

Discussions for your convenience:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/amarok/
http://nomad.ca/blog/2009/apr/3/amarok-14-jaunty-ubuntu-904/
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051538&highlight=amarok
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/84zux/who_else_feels_amarok2_is_a_huge_dissapointment/
http://www.lastfm.it/group/Amarok+Users/forum/18538/_/515569



Please save me :(. I have followed the above mentioned instructions but I could not find that PPA in my synaptic.

I have also used command line and got the following :
~$ sudo apt-get install amarok14
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package amarok14

Amarok 1.4 is the only complete music management solution in this planet that money can not buy you. There is no commercial alternative either. If one has used Amarok 1.4 for at least a year and he has at least 10GB or above of music collections , will understand my point. I don't want revert to older distro.


Can't anyone please create .deb for amarok 1.4 ? I am without music the whole day .

surfed
June 12th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Please save me :(. I have followed the above mentioned instructions but I could not find that PPA in my synaptic.

I have also used command line and got the following :
~$ sudo apt-get install amarok14
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package amarok14

Amarok 1.4 is the only complete music management solution in this planet that money can not buy you. There is no commercial alternative either. If one has used Amarok 1.4 for at least a year and he has at least 10GB or above of music collections , will understand my point. I don't want revert to older distro.


Can't anyone please create .deb for amarok 1.4 ? I am without music the whole day .


Try again, there where issues with an update and amarok deb was offline for a bit. Once working backup amarok debs so you are no longer dependent on 3rd party repos.

DeadSuperHero
June 12th, 2009, 06:00 PM
The latest release of Amarok has all the features old Amarok 1.4 had...

surfed
June 12th, 2009, 06:10 PM
The latest release of Amarok has all the features old Amarok 1.4 had...

What about crossfade?

koleoptero
June 13th, 2009, 12:34 AM
They removed the graphical equalizer. It was the only media player that had a working equalizer (besides xmms and its derivatives). Why oh why did they do that? And what's with linux and equalizers? Oh I could rant all day long... :-#

vgrisham
June 13th, 2009, 04:41 PM
The latest release of Amarok has all the features old Amarok 1.4 had...

Mass storage device support (sync)?
Sophisticated podcast management?

MasterNetra
June 13th, 2009, 06:06 PM
lol I use Movie Player, ftw, to play my music XD

octavianus
June 17th, 2009, 03:00 AM
The latest release of Amarok has all the features old Amarok 1.4 had...

MySql/PostgreSQL support is not there which is essential specially for large music collections ( 50GB+ ) . Themes cant be changed like 1.4 . NO Cross fade . Xine-engine works better with Pulse audio than the current Phonon. 1.4 can organise files with little effort which cant be done in Amarok 2.

surfed
June 17th, 2009, 03:44 AM
If I would have the know how, i would fork amarok 1.4 to qt4 in order to have a quality maintained Audio Media Jukebox.

dentaku65
June 17th, 2009, 09:29 PM
hu... I've seen that Bogdan released the packages of Amarok 1.4 for Karmic... now I can upgrade the distro :-)

gloscherrybomb
June 17th, 2009, 09:39 PM
The biggest issue for me is screen real estate - 2 seems so bloated, only being able to display a small number of songs and every seems to take a click or 2 more than it should.

I messed around with loads of music players before going back to 1.4,and realising once again just how brilliant it is. context menu is brilliant, the playlist is superb (random song loaded whilst allowing easy editing on the fly, e.g. add a song to the playlist, song priorities, refill the playlist if you dont like whats coming up, etc.) and crossfade is so useful.

1.4 is still the best music player linux - they should have stuck with the developing the currently excellent set up instead of trying to reinvent a very good wheel.

octavianus
June 21st, 2009, 03:29 AM
The biggest issue for me is screen real

1.4 is still the best music player linux - they should have stuck with the developing the currently excellent set up instead of trying to reinvent a very good wheel.


Amarok 1.4 with it's Mysql+xine+pulseaudio support is not only the best music player on Linux platform which has exceeded the perfection limit. It is in fact the best music player in any platform ie Windows and Mac in the history. It is amazing that this very best player is a FOSS project.

Now , I am willing to support any project that revives Amarok 1.4 from the current orphan state.

cptrohn
June 21st, 2009, 06:07 AM
I loved Amarok, until version 2... the deception made me unistall it and stick to rhythmbox.

I used to like Amarok as well, but I am having trouble with it playing some flac files I have (that were converted from WMA from my windows days) Rhytmbox plays them perfectly... songbird has no trouble at all playing them either.... I'm sticking with rhythmbox for the time being as it seems to sort the files better, the album art works better, it plays all of my files and seems more solid to me....

I have been toying with songbird and after they add video playback to songbird that might end up being my opensource media player of choice... even though I am experimenting with things like Elisa, mythtv and some other media center types of things from the repo's right now...

As a fairly new linux user, I was really disapointed in Amarok2 after everything I had heard about it.... especially when it seems to have trouble with flac.

Bluztrvler
July 20th, 2009, 11:39 PM
I had to go back to 1.4. Couldn't get 2.0 to play, and I found the collection list in the left pane to be buggy.

Dimitriid
July 21st, 2009, 02:09 AM
I propose you guys fork it into "Oldmarok" and maintain the old version.

hangfire
July 25th, 2009, 02:21 AM
I'm not sure what the usability problems are on Ubuntu, but at least for me using Kubuntu, Amarok 2 is still great and still does everything I need it to do

Usability on my Kubuntu 9.04 is also fine, probably because there are so few features compared to 1.4 that it can't help but be easy to use.

I voted for 1.4. For one thing, I just ripped some of my CD collection, and it cannot sort by Album (it pretends to, but doesn't), in Collection. Since this is my modus operandi, I'm rather peeved.

I've never seen a major version upgrade lose so many features. Perhaps the new code base is much easier for the maintainers to program to now, but it offers little to attract a 1.4 user.

-HF

surfed
July 25th, 2009, 02:38 AM
The thing is that Amarok 2 is a complete different application and not an upgrade to 1.4
They should have changed the name or kept 1.4 maintained as it was the best out there and now requires effort to install, soon it will fail to compile as dependencies change.
I am still for starting a fork of amarok 1.4, maybe even with qt4.
just my 2 cents

Mike Brennan
August 30th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I've switched to Exaile -- or at least am giving it a test drive. It's in the Ubuntu repositories and has an interface that will be familiar to any Amarok user. It's not as feature-complete as Amarok 1.4, but then neither is Amarok 2.1.

Exodist
August 30th, 2009, 10:51 PM
1.4 was great.. 2.0 is a disappointment. 2.0 lacks many features that made me love 1.x before. To me 2.0 is just a KDE Rythmbox. 1.4 was the best music player ever!

maestrobwh1
August 30th, 2009, 11:29 PM
I voted for 1.4 and the results are telling:

Amarok 1.4 70%

My main reason is that the UI is better for me, and the interaction with my iPod: my playlists can be modified, but perhaps I just have not figure out how to do this in 2.1

I don't dislike Amarok 2, but I just like 1.4 better. It seems more intuituve.

The 1.4 repo works with Karmic, btw.

AlbumArt will need to be fetched with the script rather than the built in fetcher: Amazon changed its policies.

Cardcaptor Stacey
August 30th, 2009, 11:37 PM
I can't use Amarok 2, it's just too buggy. I just want to listen to some music without the crashes. :(

Crunchy the Headcrab
August 30th, 2009, 11:40 PM
I just like the UI of Amarok 2.1. I'd prefer to use exaile even under kde.

SuperSonic4
August 30th, 2009, 11:42 PM
Give amarok 2 a chance, amarok 1.4 didn't appear out of the mist and be perfect

RiceMonster
August 31st, 2009, 12:55 AM
Amarok 2 is good. I don't have any problems with it at all.