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uk1320
April 25th, 2009, 04:25 PM
When I attempt to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 I get a dialog box that says "This computer is currently using the AMD fglrx graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 9.04. Do you want to continue?"

I responded "no" and exited the upgrade.

Does this mean I can't upgrade to 9.04?

El Cabrón
April 26th, 2009, 02:02 AM
When I attempt to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 I get a dialog box that says "This computer is currently using the AMD fglrx graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 9.04. Do you want to continue?"

I responded "no" and exited the upgrade.

Does this mean I can't upgrade to 9.04?


I have the same issue.

ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Proprietary Driver 8.54.3

I wonder if the message includes restricted drivers. That's where my confusion is. If not then I could upgrade and simply enable the restricted drivers for it but I don't know now. The warning is vague.

alphacrucis2
April 26th, 2009, 02:19 AM
I have the same issue.

ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
Proprietary Driver 8.54.3

I wonder if the message includes restricted drivers. That's where my confusion is. If not then I could upgrade and simply enable the restricted drivers for it but I don't know now. The warning is vague.

Jaunty comes with x.org server 1.6 which doesn't support the ATI Catalyst drivers prior to 9.4. The catch is that the fglrx(8.6) Catalyst 9.4 driver dropped support for a whole lot of older cards. If your card is one of those no longer supported then you can't use the proprietary driver with jaunty. You would have to use the open source ati or radeonhd driver. Which means that you will most likely lose performance and 3D support. ATI have realesed the documentation of the older cards but it will take probably some months before the open source ati driver developers get it all working.

El Cabrón
April 26th, 2009, 04:25 AM
Jaunty comes with x.org server 1.6 which doesn't support the ATI Catalyst drivers prior to 9.4. The catch is that the fglrx(8.6) Catalyst 9.4 driver dropped support for a whole lot of older cards. If your card is one of those no longer supported then you can't use the proprietary driver with jaunty. You would have to use the open source ati or radeonhd driver. Which means that you will most likely lose performance and 3D support. ATI have realesed the documentation of the older cards but it will take probably some months before the open source ati driver developers get it all working.


I guess this old Dell XPS PPO9L is just too old now.

hemna
April 26th, 2009, 04:57 AM
I get the same dialog even thought I have an ATI Mobility X2300, which ATI says is supported by Catalyst 9.4

https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_94_linux.pdf

What gives?

simonpl
April 26th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Looks like I lost support for my old X1300 :( hardly seems like last week to me that 512DDR2 and a nice clock speed were considered millennia in the future.

*reminisces his CGA and 300/300*.

uk1320
April 26th, 2009, 08:56 AM
It's not clear from these replies what will happen if I proceed with the upgrade - will the upgrade fail or will it install other drivers and work with reduced performance?

I will give it a go this evening and post the results here. Worst case scenario is that I have to re-install 8.10.

StuartN
April 26th, 2009, 11:28 AM
It's not clear from these replies what will happen if I proceed with the upgrade - will the upgrade fail or will it install other drivers and work with reduced performance?

I will give it a go this evening and post the results here. Worst case scenario is that I have to re-install 8.10.

Run the Live CD and it will show you how your hardware will perform under 9.04. Run glxgears, put Compiz effects on and play some video in your current setting and under the Live CD to compare speed. lshw -C video will list the driver used in each setup.

El Cabrón
April 26th, 2009, 04:48 PM
It's not clear from these replies what will happen if I proceed with the upgrade - will the upgrade fail or will it install other drivers and work with reduced performance?

I will give it a go this evening and post the results here. Worst case scenario is that I have to re-install 8.10.

If you upgrade you will not have 3d graphics, ability to run google earth or other programs that require it. You will be forced to use the free driver, which is 2d only. Maybe in a few months there will be support for the older cards... so someone says. Maybe... Either get a video card that is supported or don't upgrade. That's my option.

uk1320
April 26th, 2009, 06:02 PM
OK, I've done the upgrade with no dramas. I've played a couple of avi and mpg files OK.

The lshw -C video gives:

*-display:0 UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-display:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Display controller
product: RV370 [Radeon X300SE]
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress cap_list
configuration: latency=0


I've not tried it with a live CD. The performance seems OK, but I've not even attempted to do any 3D stuff, no reason for me to do that as it's not something I normally do. I'm certainly not spending money on a new graphics card. This is only a secondary system, I usually use a Mac. Let the flames begin...

At least I know the system still works OK.

AZcat
April 26th, 2009, 06:31 PM
My 6 year old PC has a Radeon 9700 pro graphic card installed. Am running the 9.04 live CD with the visual effect set to extra. Apps loading takes longer but that is to be expected. Firefox actually runs faster once it is loaded than when it is running in 8.10. Video works fine too. Issued the lshw command while running a wmv file and got this response:

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lshw -C video
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
SCSI
*-display:0 UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Radeon R300 ND [Radeon 9700 Pro]
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32 mingnt=8
*-display:1 UNCLAIMED
description: Display controller
product: Radeon R300 [Radeon 9700 Pro] (Secondary)
vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: cap_list
configuration: latency=32 mingnt=8
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$

Don't have 3D games to test the system. So far everything seems to work okay. Is there anything else I should test before going ahead with the upgrade?