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FuturePilot
April 11th, 2009, 05:04 AM
Yep, add another one to the 64bit crowd :D
I finally bit the bullet and made the switch on my laptop. I wiped my 32bit Jaunty install and put on 64bit Jaunty and I'm really loving it. I do notice a speed improvement over 32bit. Maybe a placebo effect? Nah it really does feel snappier. :guitar:

It's come a long way now that there are native 64bit Flash and Java plugins and it will only continue to get better as 64bit becomes standard.

FuturePilot
April 12th, 2009, 04:24 PM
No one has any thoughts on 64bit Ubuntu or 64bit in general? :(

swoll1980
April 12th, 2009, 04:26 PM
I need to get a 64bit computer first. :p

chris200x9
April 12th, 2009, 04:28 PM
welcome to the dark side :mad:

Sealbhach
April 12th, 2009, 04:28 PM
It's a bit annoying when you can't get some apps for 64bit - like Boxee. I sometime dpkg --force install stuff but it didn't work with Boxee.


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kevin11951
April 12th, 2009, 04:29 PM
i would like to somehow benchmark the difference between 32 and 64bit general speed, how?

SKLP
April 12th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Sadly, 64-bit native flash does not work as good as 32-bit flash in nspluginwrapper.
This is due to the fact that the native plugin has no support for accelerated full-screen.
Other than flash, 64-bit works great in my experience.

mips
April 12th, 2009, 04:30 PM
No one has any thoughts on 64bit Ubuntu or 64bit in general? :(

No, it works so why comment. Been using it for years.

kevin11951
April 12th, 2009, 04:31 PM
It's a bit annoying when you can't get some apps for 64bit - like Boxee. I sometime dpkg --force install stuff but it didn't work with Boxee.


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did you make sure you had the dependencies installed?

4th guy
April 12th, 2009, 04:32 PM
No one has any thoughts on 64bit Ubuntu or 64bit in general? :(
Some patches take a long time to go upstream from 32bit.

For example 8.04 32bit can detect onboard ethernet port, while 8.04 64bit would not without installing the kernel deb from 8.10

FuturePilot
April 12th, 2009, 04:33 PM
welcome to the dark side :mad:

lol :)

MellonCollie
April 12th, 2009, 04:39 PM
i would like to somehow benchmark the difference between 32 and 64bit general speed, how?

I don't know about benchmarks, but, for what it's worth, I didn't notice any speed difference in general usage when I moved to 64-bit.

Paqman
April 12th, 2009, 04:45 PM
i would like to somehow benchmark the difference between 32 and 64bit general speed, how?

You'll have to install both separately. To make it a fair benchmark both systems would have to be identical. So the easiest would be to use a two fresh installs.

The thing is, performance will really depend on what benchmark you choose. 64-bit won't show any performance improvement at all if you choose a task that's mainly governed by disk I/O (for example), but it should slaughter 32-bit on CPU-intensive tasks like re-encoding media.

If you're expecting a big speed boost, you'll probably be disappointed. Personally I use 64-bit because I figure that if you've got a 64-bit chip, why throttle it down, even by 5%? 32-bit is old hat, not even Windows is stuck in 32-bit land any more.

Sealbhach
April 12th, 2009, 04:47 PM
did you make sure you had the dependencies installed?

Yes, I did all that - I followed a guide. But when I tried t run Boxee it said that there was some .so file missing (even though locate found it).

Probably I just needed to -s link it to somewhere else but I couldn't be bothered to find out.

FuturePilot
April 12th, 2009, 04:53 PM
If you're expecting a big speed boost, you'll probably be disappointed. Personally I use 64-bit because I figure that if you've got a 64-bit chip, why throttle it down, even by 5%? 32-bit is old hat, not even Windows is stuck in 32-bit land any more.

Exactly. 32bit is going to be obsolete in a few years. Just about any computer being sold today is 64bit capable, yet it usually has a 32bit OS stuck on it. If you have a 64bit computer might as well take advantage of it.

steeleyuk
April 12th, 2009, 05:01 PM
Sadly, 64-bit native flash does not work as good as 32-bit flash in nspluginwrapper.

If you mean it doesn't crash as good as nspluginwrapper... in my experience, the 64-bit Flash has been pretty much rock-solid.

64-bit for me has been excellent, I installed Handbrake on it and got an immediate speed boost over the 32-bit version.

hyperdude111
April 12th, 2009, 05:02 PM
I have never needed it but you can try ia32 libs so all 32bit apps install with dpkg --force

SKLP
April 12th, 2009, 05:10 PM
If you mean it doesn't crash as good as nspluginwrapper... in my experience, the 64-bit Flash has been pretty much rock-solid.

64-bit for me has been excellent, I installed Handbrake on it and got an immediate speed boost over the 32-bit version.

In my experience, both 32-bit flash in nspluginwrapper and 64-bit native flash crash quite a bit :(
In the native player though, accelerated full screen does not appear to be available at all (which is why I'm using nspluginwrapper atm)

FuturePilot
April 12th, 2009, 05:10 PM
If you mean it doesn't crash as good as nspluginwrapper... in my experience, the 64-bit Flash has been pretty much rock-solid.

64-bit for me has been excellent, I installed Handbrake on it and got an immediate speed boost over the 32-bit version.

I've been using the 64bit Flash Beta and it's been working great. Haven't had any problems with it so far.

Sealbhach
April 12th, 2009, 05:13 PM
I've been using the 64bit Flash Beta and it's been working great. Haven't had any problems with it so far.

How do you get that? is it in the Jaunty beta?


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stmiller
April 12th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Sadly, 64-bit native flash does not work as good as 32-bit flash in nspluginwrapper.
This is due to the fact that the native plugin has no support for accelerated full-screen.
Other than flash, 64-bit works great in my experience.

Sadly?

Native 64bit flash is rock solid and has WAY better cpu performance than any wrapper and 32bit version I have found.

SKLP
April 12th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Sadly?

Native 64bit flash is rock solid and has WAY better cpu performance than any wrapper and 32bit version I have found.
If you don't care about accelerated full-screen, then sure it might be a bit lower on the cpu usage

toupeiro
April 12th, 2009, 05:28 PM
I used to suggest to new linux users that they start with 32-bit, as it is truly the mature architecture which software is developed for. However, 64-bit has come such a long way that I am less and less often making this recommendation.

blastus
April 12th, 2009, 06:09 PM
Windows Media Audio v3 doesn't work on 64bit Linux at this time.

gn2
April 12th, 2009, 06:46 PM
How do you get that?

64-bit Flash at the bottom of the page here (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html) and installation instructions here (http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml).

Sealbhach
April 12th, 2009, 10:27 PM
64-bit Flash at the bottom of the page here (http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html) and installation instructions here (http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml).

Cool, using it now. Thanks!

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