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Mehall
April 8th, 2009, 05:20 PM
http://twtpoll.com/o9w78w

Conducting a poll to see if PulseAudio is working for people, because I wanted a global EQ, and was told "already in pulseaudio", when pulseaudio doesn't work for a large number of people.

original brainstorm:

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19103/

Tibuda
April 8th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Yes, without any tweaking.

damis648
April 8th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Yes. :popcorn:

Some applications don't like it (Audacity, XBMC :mad:), but it works fine.

swoll1980
April 8th, 2009, 05:34 PM
Never had a problem with it.

jespdj
April 8th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Works good enough on 8.04 and 8.10. I applied these fixes (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578) but I don't know if they were really necessary or not.

vikigal
April 8th, 2009, 05:40 PM
Never worked for me. I worked through all the solutions many times. I spent a solid week trying to fix my sound issues after an upgrade. Ended up going with alsamixer before I could get any sound. Tried everything. I am now sticking with alsamixer. It works with everything I do.

Methuselah
April 8th, 2009, 05:40 PM
I have relatives that use skype and I find I'll have to take it off default devices if I want playback and capture to work.
Otherwise PA has been working well for me after hardy. I had to tweak my hardy installation.

Ascenti0n
April 8th, 2009, 05:56 PM
I cant record in Audacity. I followed some howto's within these forums, but to no avail. Some of these were even suggesting that you had to close all applications that might use sound to prevent Pulse audio from getting it's knickers in a twist, WTF?

Audio - playing and recording, you'd think it would be a basic thing to get right in a modern OS wouldn't you?

SomeGuyDude
April 8th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Pulse was wonky for me. Back on ALSA.

Bölvağur
April 8th, 2009, 06:04 PM
depends on hardware. some audio cards I got pulse is not the way... like my rusting (yes it is that old) sound blaster live! 5.1 (the ! is part of the name), that does definetly not work with pulse.

spcwingo
April 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
After much tweaking, yes.

gn2
April 8th, 2009, 07:20 PM
Got rid of it almost a year ago and have never been inclined to try it again.

FuturePilot
April 8th, 2009, 07:22 PM
Had problems with it in Hardy, had to do some tweaking but that was because Ubuntu failed at getting good default settings on it. They fixed that since then. I haven't had a single issue with it since Hardy. Works perfectly without tweaking anything in Intrepid and Jaunty. And this is on 4 different computes all with different sound cards. From a Sound Blaster Audigy to Intel cards, all works perfectly.

NightwishFan
April 8th, 2009, 07:35 PM
Pulseaudio causes applications in Wine to lose sound sometimes, even with high priority. (I am pretty sure pulse is at fault anyway, since they work fine with alsa). Other than that I like it, and even the name sounds cool. Better than "core audio" at least. It seems like it has great potential for improvement.

Nevon
April 8th, 2009, 07:45 PM
In Hardy I was having all kinds of problems with it, but in Intrepid it works well - except for capturing audio, which doesn't work at all.

gnomeuser
April 8th, 2009, 08:33 PM
I use PulseAudio every day and I like it very much. I can switch between my external USB sound card and my internal one. These days I find that without PulseAudio my computer just doesn't work as I expect anymore, I have grow to like how it makes audio better for me and easier.

There is a slight problem which currently causes it to crash quite often but it is a bug in the ALSA driver so I hardly think it is fair to blame PA for other peoples suckage.

It is the same thing with Network Manager, it got a lot of flak for a long time because they refused to turn their codebase into a massive hack to work around other peoples problems. Today after Network Manager helped expose all of these bugs they are largely all gone and Linux is better for it and NM hardly ever causes problems for people anymore. I think PulseAudio will be much the same, issues will be found and fixed, issues that exist already but aren't hit since we are not using these advanced features PA allows us to.

Linux will be better for this kind of software to be uncompromising with regards to bugs in the stack it depends on. Even if there is a period of pain involved for some users.

PreviousN
April 8th, 2009, 08:36 PM
I hate pulse. It prevents me from listening to music and playing a game at the same time. And, I've had to jump through hoops to get it running on one of my computers.

I hate it.

billgoldberg
April 8th, 2009, 09:07 PM
http://twtpoll.com/o9w78w

Conducting a poll to see if PulseAudio is working for people, because I wanted a global EQ, and was told "already in pulseaudio", when pulseaudio doesn't work for a large number of people.

original brainstorm:

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19103/

Yes, but poorly (skipping of sound when switching desktops, scrolling websites, ...).

Switched to ALSA.

|Mitch|
April 8th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Pulse Audio was the only way I could get my USB Headphones/Mic working with everything.

Delever
April 8th, 2009, 09:40 PM
At this moment - perfectly. But there are new incoming updates, so... MUST UPDATE... CANT RESIST...

Well, i am on jaunty since last alpha, so it varies.

Bungo Pony
April 8th, 2009, 09:47 PM
It works, but it's a bit of a mess. I can't find what I need, ever. I have two sound cards in my PC which complicates things greatly.


I cant record in Audacity.

Use JACK audio control. Better yet, use a Windows program running in WINE. That's what I do. I only use Audacity for editing because getting it to record is a pain in the bum.

timzak
April 8th, 2009, 10:05 PM
I'm still using Soundblaster Live! PCI cards in all my computers (I have them and they sound better than an onboard solutions on my systems, so might as well use them). The main problem I have with Pulse is that on one of my systems I have 4 channels and a subwoofer, and Pulse does not recognize 4 channels out of the box. There is tweaking involved to enable more than 2 channels. Of course, the howto that explains how to fix this tells me to edit a config file that does not exist on my system. Perhaps it is because the howto is for Ubuntu and my system is Xubuntu. Regardless, I am stuck with two channels that do not work. Otherwise, my other systems all use 2 channels and work fine with Pulse.

gnomeuser
April 8th, 2009, 10:26 PM
I'm still using Soundblaster Live! PCI cards in all my computers (I have them and they sound better than an onboard solutions on my systems, so might as well use them). The main problem I have with Pulse is that on one of my systems I have 4 channels and a subwoofer, and Pulse does not recognize 4 channels out of the box. There is tweaking involved to enable more than 2 channels. Of course, the howto that explains how to fix this tells me to edit a config file that does not exist on my system. Perhaps it is because the howto is for Ubuntu and my system is Xubuntu. Regardless, I am stuck with two channels that do not work. Otherwise, my other systems all use 2 channels and work fine with Pulse.

PulseAudio 0.9.15 supports an easy way of enabling more than stereo. I have my external SB Live! 5.1 running right now with this working and set using just the volume selection gui (there's a tab there now for this).

DMcA
April 8th, 2009, 11:59 PM
It only works properly after a few hacks and a lot of time spent trying to figure these out. It also annoys me that pulse seems to want to be tied to X. I want my sound system to be entirely non-dependent on X thank you very much.

That said, you can do some very cool stuff with pulseaudio. Streaming over a network is absolutely trivial for example

gnomeuser
April 9th, 2009, 12:04 AM
It only works properly after a few hacks and a lot of time spent trying to figure these out. It also annoys me that pulse seems to want to be tied to X. I want my sound system to be entirely non-dependent on X thank you very much.

That said, you can do some very cool stuff with pulseaudio. Streaming over a network is absolutely trivial for example

PulseAudio is NOT tied to X. It can run systemwide or sessionwide, but it does not tie into the X protocol or libraries at all. I have no idea where you got that idea from.

NightwishFan
April 9th, 2009, 06:20 PM
Ah yeah! I remember opening the Pulse Volume Control, and it had support for mixing all 6 channels when I played a DVD in Totem.

Slightly off topic, but does Jaunty include the new pulseaudio mixer applet? (I have not tested yet I am waiting to buy the DVD after release.)

boteeka
April 9th, 2009, 07:25 PM
As much as I like the concept behind PulseAudio, and aknowledge it that there is a need for it, I must say that it isn't there yet. Whether it is poorly implemented, buggy, or whatever else problem, it just doesn't cut it right now.

I can't use Skype at all (I tried every possible setting and configuration variations), sometimes even music playback produces crackling noises, small pauses, etc. When I mute the main volume, there is a crackling noise again. There are bugs that simply prevent it to be a usable sound server. But I did not gave up hope yet! I really want it to succeed and be a usable, perfectly good sound server. Although, for this to happen, bugs must be exterminated, and overall quality must be raised.

It is part of the truth that I'm running Jaunty, which is not yet stable, but still... wouldn't it be nice if It Just Worked?

timzak
April 9th, 2009, 10:04 PM
PulseAudio 0.9.15 supports an easy way of enabling more than stereo. I have my external SB Live! 5.1 running right now with this working and set using just the volume selection gui (there's a tab there now for this).

How do I go about getting this working on a Hardy machine? I don't have the version numbers handy--is 0.9.15 available in the repos?

PurposeOfReason
April 9th, 2009, 10:44 PM
I tried it once, got it working, didn't see a big enough reason for the trouble it caused. I can play multiple sources with alsa. I don't need a sound server. And a software eq will always get killed by a good sound system.

speedwell68
April 9th, 2009, 10:58 PM
Yes, but poorly (skipping of sound when switching desktops, scrolling websites, ...).

Switched to ALSA.

That sums up my experiences with it too.

ghindo
April 9th, 2009, 11:12 PM
I'm not sure if I have PulseAudio enabled. I know it wasn't working for me in 8.04, but I'm now running 9.04 and want to give it another shot. How do I make sure I have Pulse enabled?

zenithdave
April 9th, 2009, 11:21 PM
Its starting to get good now :guitar: even the sounds from weapons is synced in Nexuiz (might have been the 2.5 upgrade)
As i mainly have a PC for music i loved the low Latency i have enjoyed for years on a Delta44 card in windows (2ms)

Im hanging on for pulseaudio to let me connect with ASIO speed in a few fave music apps and VST's in XP virtualbox but im also installing Studio on another partition ext4 ):P

Feeling good Winthorpe :lolflag:

Pkadjipag
April 10th, 2009, 05:09 AM
It does but I can't seem to have my built-in mic to work (I'm on HP pavilion 9700) and I can see on the forums that i'm not the only one with that problem. I hope i can resolve it soon. Apart from that, it works great. Except that I don't get any sound from ePSXe but I don't think Pulseaudio is the problem.

TheIdiotThatIsMe
April 10th, 2009, 05:30 AM
Feeling good Winthorpe :lolflag:

But but.... you didn't wait for someone to say the first part...

Looking good Billy Ray!

DMcA
April 10th, 2009, 11:48 AM
PulseAudio is NOT tied to X. It can run systemwide or sessionwide, but it does not tie into the X protocol or libraries at all. I have no idea where you got that idea from.

I know it's not actually tied to X, I said it seems to want to be. Trying to run it as a system session is not entirely straightforward. In ubuntu, at least, logging in starts a user session that takes over from the system one. And all the tools like padevchooser aren't exactly command-line friendly. I mean, if you know a good way to control pulse from the command line (without just editing the config files) I'd like to know. I haven't looked into it too thoroughly

3rdalbum
April 10th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Before Pulseaudio, people were complaining that the audio situation on Linux was fragmented, that some programs would lock other programs out of audio. This is true.

Now that we have Pulseaudio, people are complaining that Pulseaudio is causing some programs to be locked out of audio output.

Pulseaudio has not caused a problem for me, and in fact it gives us some nice features. I used to have programs being locked out of audio; but now with Pulseaudio I'm not getting that at all.

zenithdave
April 10th, 2009, 07:12 PM
But but.... you didn't wait for someone to say the first part...

Looking good Billy Ray!

Next time Eh ! ;)

Pulseaudio has handled everything i have thrown at it without a glitch, a vast improvement :guitar:

64 jaunty ext4

hyperdude111
April 10th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Worked on 8.04 and 8.10 but has a few problems on 9.04 beta (occasional crackling) hopefully it will be fixed by the final release.

Solrac924
August 13th, 2009, 03:46 AM
i mostly use ALSA, but i do use PulseAudio when i use VirtualBox. when i do, it works great.

mamamia88
August 13th, 2009, 03:51 AM
haven't had a problem since jaunty

pt123
August 13th, 2009, 04:13 AM
big problem since Jaunty

Kingsley
August 13th, 2009, 04:28 AM
I can't remember if the guys at Ubuntu implemented this in 9.04 or not, but in Fedora there's a default "feature" called flat volume. It basically allows the volume applet to control all the programs using sound at once. I disabled this ASAP because it usually made my applications have max volume by default when I opened them. Other than that, PulseAudio has been a charm.

starcannon
August 13th, 2009, 06:05 AM
I need to answer "kind of"; sometimes its fine, other times it's not.

Alejandro Nova
August 13th, 2009, 07:39 PM
I moved 2 weeks ago to Sabayon Linux with KDE. I had to configure manually PulseAudio (because it's a KDE distro, and they don't have the heavy dependences on Pulse that Ubuntu has), but, when all pieces got together, it was a charm. CPU usage always under 3% of 200% (two cores). This, with some caveats: I'm using here a prerelease 0.9.16 that Sabayon (really) is shipping as DEFAULT (Sabayon 5).

After some configuration hell (as expected in a Gentoo-based distro) I did the "perfect setup" described in PulseAudio homepage... and what a difference!. I have two sound cards and three sound devices. This is always a nightmare to setup with vanilla ALSA, for all my programs. But with PulseAudio, no more nightmare. I use my on-board sound chip to feed headphones, and my cs46xx sound card to feed speakers, and I can freely switch on the fly between them. And I don't know what Sabayon really did, but "glitch free" here IS GLITCH FREE (with both sound devices). Amazing.

Warpnow
August 13th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Pulseaudio is way too much of a headache for me. Alsa worked much better. Pulse does work, but I have problems with some applications and I randomly lose sound on my system until I reboot.

RiceMonster
August 13th, 2009, 07:45 PM
No problems with Pulse in Fedora. Last I used with Ubuntu was 8.04. I experienced minor problems here and there.

NightwishFan
August 13th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Interrupt based scheduling is fine on Ubuntu 8.04.1 and onward. Timer seems to work, but I did not test much.

On Fedora Pulseaudio has minor problems when using timer based scheduling. It chirps and stutters at odd times.

Pulseaudio does not function well at all on OpenSUSE 11.0 and 11.1. I cannot remove it, as it is a dependency of YAST2. It stutters and crackles with OpenAL and Wine. I cannot play more than one ALSA stream at one time. I cannot play an ALSA stream with a Pulse stream running. I can fix by removing alsa-plugin-pulse, but that is only possible on KDE based systems. GNOME requires it. In the end I tried to disable pulseaudio from autospwawning, but it still is used by default in all gstreamer applications.

harry2006
August 13th, 2009, 07:54 PM
i don't have any issues..i'm on dell and it works out of the obx....no probs at all