I don't know if this is funny, or disturbing

[swoll1980]

Seen this add (youtube.com/watch?v=1wYnrPJRvd4) on TV a couple minutes ago

[dragos240]

i smell scam

[pastalavista]

common sense all slicked up with snake-oil. typical of the kind of ads directed to the ultra-conformist sheep-people who can't go to the bathroom without explicit instructions.

[TheLions]

if you child don't listen to you, just beat the hell out them!

:lolflag:

edit:
some people didn't understanded what I meant. :-(
I meant spank it, slap it, not resolve your frustration on your kid.

[nothingspecial]

If your child dosen`t stamp his foot, shout, answer you back and misbehave then there is something wrong with your child.

[dragos240]

if you child don't listen to you, just beat the hell out them!

:lolflag:

now THAT is something that is NOT funny.

[swoll1980]

I thinks it's funny that they're selling well behaved children like weight loss, or computer speed, or any of that other useless crap.

[smartboyathome]

If your child dosen`t stamp his foot, shout, answer you back and misbehave then there is something wrong with your child.

How could you say that about me?! :mad: :P

[Chemical Imbalance]

They also have an ad on public radio that I heard. I lol'd :)

People that buy into what they are spoon-fed I guess wouldn't raise children properly anyhow.

[KCG102282]

now THAT is something that is NOT funny.
I disagree and that is why kids are the way they are today!

[JECHO]

Seen this add (youtube.com/watch?v=1wYnrPJRvd4) on TV a couple minutes ago

it sounds like they are talking about a pet hahaha

...if my parents tried to get me on that program i dont know what i would do. ha

[hanzomon4]

Ahh... This guy use to work at the Elan school in Poland Maine. Notorious for abusing teenagers and forcing them to abuse each other. This guy is a part of the troubled teen industry... they all just sell fear with a convenient solution attached. If it were up to me this guy and his ilk would be thrown under the jail.../rant off

[mkendall]

it sounds like they are talking about a pet hahaha

...if my parents tried to get me on that program i dont know what i would do. ha

I got the impression that it's the parents who get trained, not the children, ala the Dog Whisperer training the pet owners, not the pets.

[swoll1980]

Any parent that would buy a video to address their childrens' behavioral problems needs their head examined

[days_of_ruin]

if you child don't listen to you, just beat the hell out them!

:lolflag:

+1

[red_Marvin]

Any parent that would buy a video to address their childrens' behavioral problems needs their head examined
plus one

[and1bskbl72]

At the end of the video there is a p.s.

Money back guarantee: If your child behavior doesn't improve you can return your child regardless of age or how long you kept it and get a new improved behaved child that has been brainwashed with our A+ material.

There a answer and solution to every problem. Thank you endbadbehavior.com :)

[Koori23]

I did something wrong.. I got smacked on the butt.. I talked back, I got smacked on the mouth... I didn't do it again. Not hard, just enough to let me know my parents didn't appreciate what I did.

It's not like it was a daily occurance, I had to do something pretty out of line.

I didn't know what a "timeout" was nor did my parents ever try to negotiate with me.. It was pretty clear, I'm the kid, they are the parents.. That's the way it should be.

[MikeTheC]

Alright, folks, to those of you who have something against this guy or other behavior modification theorists and practitioners...

What is it exactly you think is the appropriate thing to do as a parent when you have children with behavioral problems?

[Giant Speck]

My parents just used a belt.

[MikeTheC]

My parents just used a belt.

+1

Same here, worked for me.

[hotweiss]

The kids are like this because parents have pursued materialism instead of family values. How do you expect for your kids to be after they were raised a pre-school and playstation? Plus, the child needs to be with the mother for the first 6 years or so to develop a sense of shame. How many mothers spend that time with their child?

[hanzomon4]

Alright, folks, to those of you who have something against this guy or other behavior modification theorists and practitioners...

What is it exactly you think is the appropriate thing to do as a parent when you have children with behavioral problems?

Stop expecting to raise perfect little robots? Let your kids know from birth that they are important and that their voice matters. Learn who they are instead of trying to make them who you want them to be. And discipline your kids justly.

Don't just let them get away with something or try to buy their good behavior. Don't punish them just because you had a bad day or are under a lot of stress.

I've said this before and I'll say it again... Children today have lost the right to fail. We either reward them for nothing or try to "fix" them for being normal imperfect human beings.

ps.. these "specialist" probably got their degrees from crackerjack boxes(read Miller Newton) or worse... Good institutions with psychotic Professors..(Judge Rothenberg Center's Harvard trained Matthew L. Israel)

[swoll1980]

Stop expecting to raise perfect little robots? Let your kids know from birth that they are important and that their voice matters. Learn who they are instead of trying to make them who you want them to be. And discipline your kids justly.

Don't just let them get away with something or try to buy their good behavior. Don't punish them just because you had a bad day or are under a lot of stress.

I've said this before and I'll say it again... Children today have lost the right to fail. We either reward them for nothing or try to "fix" them for being normal imperfect human beings.

ps.. these "specialist" probably got their degrees from crackerjack boxes(read Miller Newton) or worse... Good institutions with psychotic Professors..(Judge Rothenberg Center's Harvard trained Matthew L. Israel)

*stands up slowly* =D>

[billgoldberg]

I don't see why this is disturbing.

Parents are supposed to transform their children to something they deem good.

Off course this stuff he's telling will just be the same tricks that everyone knows but with a nice BS layer around it.

[lisati]

This thread kinda reminds me of a change in the law we had here in New Zealand a year or two back which basically took away the rights of a parent to use reasonable force. While I applaud the efforts of people to stomp out child abuse, this strikes me as a bit ridiculous: if we're not meant to use REASONABLE force when looking after the young ones charged to our care, what are we meant to use? Unreasonable force?


if you child don't listen to you, just beat the hell out them!

:lolflag:
Mildly better than one option that occurred to me (decapitate them or something similar) which could result in a murder charge.

I did something wrong.. I got smacked on the butt.. I talked back, I got smacked on the mouth... I didn't do it again. Not hard, just enough to let me know my parents didn't appreciate what I did.

It's not like it was a daily occurance, I had to do something pretty out of line.

I didn't know what a "timeout" was nor did my parents ever try to negotiate with me.. It was pretty clear, I'm the kid, they are the parents.. That's the way it should be.
The nearest I ever had to a timeout was getting sent to my room......

[swoll1980]

The nearest I ever had to a timeout was getting sent to my room......

The nearest I ever got to a timeout was the period of time between the cracks with the paddle.

[Therion]

... nor did my parents ever try to negotiate with me.. It was pretty clear, I'm the kid, they are the parents...
+1

Every time I hear a parent "correct" bad behavior, only to follow it up with "Okaaay...?" I start feeling all stabby.

[Old_Grey_Wolf]

My daughter tried the time-out method, treating the children as friends, listening to their opinions, etc., etc. The grandchildren were completely out of control. She eventually went back to the traditional, and well tested methods. Of course, reasonable negative behavior modification methods, also know as punishment. What a difference a switch or similar punishment can make.

[swoll1980]

They need to make a video "How to smack your kids w/o getting arrested" that would probably sell too.

[Chemical Imbalance]

They need to make a video "How to smack your kids w/o getting arrested" that would probably sell too.

#1 future most viewed Youtube video :P

[woppy71]

Wow, that is disturbing....

Whatever happened to asking your parents for advice on this? Or friends with children? :confused:

[sisco311]

My parents just used a belt.

My mother is a kindergarten teacher and she can discipline 20+ kids without corporal punishment.

Corporal punishment is a cruel mode of punishment and is always wrong. Not to mention, it's illegal in some countries.

[Kingsley]

The nearest I ever got to a timeout was the period of time between the cracks with the paddle.
+1 :lolflag:

I think my worst punishment was a result of me trying to drive my father's truck when I was 4 years old. It almost rolled into some body of water.

[smartboyathome]

What they need to do is implement mind control over the whole population of earth. Then there would be no need for this. ;)

[mips]

I didn't know what a "timeout" was nor did my parents ever try to negotiate with me.. It was pretty clear, I'm the kid, they are the parents.. That's the way it should be.

+1 At the end of the day the parent is responsible and must take charge.




My parents just used a belt.

+1 but most of the times it followed a few warnings first.




Corporal punishment is a cruel mode of punishment and is always wrong. Not to mention, it's illegal in some countries.

I'm still trying to find my emotional scars. I must add that I have received corporal punishment in school (now banned) that was unjust. That just taught me that life is not always fair.

[nothingspecial]

My mother is a kindergarten teacher and she can discipline 20+ kids without corporal punishment.

Corporal punishment is a cruel mode of punishment and is always wrong. Not to mention, it's illegal in some countries.

My wife`s a nursery (kindergarten) teacher and disciplines 20+ kids no problem. But our 2 still drive her crazy misbehaving and disobeying.

Funny thing is, by all accounts, they are very well behaved at school.

:confused:

[sisco311]

My wife`s a nursery (kindergarten) teacher and disciplines 20+ kids no problem. But our 2 still drive her crazy misbehaving and disobeying.

Funny thing is, by all accounts, they are very well behaved at school.

:confused:

There is an old saying that cobbler's children have no shoes. :D

[jenkinbr]

The kids are like this because parents have pursued materialism instead of family values. How do you expect for your kids to be after they were raised a pre-school and playstation? Plus, the child needs to be with the mother for the first 6 years or so to develop a sense of shame. How many mothers spend that time with their child?

+1.

Materialism has sucked the world off the deep end...

[Fenris_rising]

www.kidsfinallybehaved.com :D

Disturbing +1

regards

Fenris

[swoll1980]

My wife`s a nursery (kindergarten) teacher and disciplines 20+ kids no problem. But our 2 still drive her crazy misbehaving and disobeying.

Funny thing is, by all accounts, they are very well behaved at school.

:confused:

There has to be something different at home, perhaps you are the variable.

[Yownanymous]

This is actually very scary... And I wouldn't be surprised if these guys got into some legal trouble over this.

[JackieChan]

If you're child is acting up just hit him or her with the belt. Simple as that. ):P

[TheLions]

What they need to do is implement mind control over the whole population of earth. Then there would be no need for this. ;)

Resistance is futile, you we'll be assimilated (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuqzGOt8H6Q)

[xArv3nx]

if you child don't listen to you, just beat the hell out them!

:lolflag:
There's a major difference between disciplining your child, and beating your child.


If you're child is acting up just hit him or her with the belt. Simple as that.
Agreed.

[swoll1980]

I heard a add on the radio earlier for an alcohol treatment program on a dvd. Thought that was pretty funny.

[tjwoosta]

i dont care what anybody says

when i was younger and i misbehaved i always got what was coming to me

and i would do the exact same thing if my child was acting up like a spoiled little brat

its not about spanking your child, its about teaching them whos in charge, and whats right and wrong

[red_Marvin]

If the children where taught what is right and wrong in the first place, who's in charge shouldn't matter in many cases.

[uc50_ic4more]

I have seen these commercials here and there as well, and think the same as some of the replies here so far: It's packaged common sense that people will put more faith in (relative to common sense) because a) they paid for it and b) someone is telling them what to do.

I also agree that raising your kids properly in the first place is probably the best (preventative) way to ensure that your kids are respectful and healthy people.

I also agree that any teenager that isn't exhibiting some type of rebellious attitude and is not in some way asserting their independence is somehow unhealthy as well.

It seems as though we're expecting products, rules and regulations to make our lives perfect for us, and in adopting this attitude are allowing the commodification of everything; from weight loss to self help to home renovations to parenting, to become not just an unfortunately large industry, but to become our moral and social compass.

[djsroknrol]

I think it's disturbing as the day is long....This program is not new; it was advertised in Los Angeles 5 years ago. When I called to inquire about it for a friend, it was $400.00 back then!!...I can imagine the price for it today.

A good backhand could turn that child around much quicker and a whole lot cheaper. If people would only raise their children to have respect and integrity, there might not be a need for such a thing ;)

[MaxIBoy]

Your child is driving you crazy. Options:


Figure out why your child is upset, because there is almost always a legit reason. It might not be your fault, but often there's something you can do about it.
Take a shortcut. Wage a mind-game war on your child (there are far worse psychological punishments than beating.) Save yourself the trouble of actually parenting. This won't resolve any actual root causes of the problems, and your kid will loose any respect he might have had for you.

[venator260]

I seem to agree with most of the people here so far.

When I was growing up, my parents smacked me if I misbehaved, and let me know when I did something well. "Time out" was something that happened after the spanking. I'm in the final stages of becoming a self-sufficient, productive adult. I have also yet to find those emotional scars from all of the time that sitting was temporarily painful. If anything, I deserved more smack than I got. If I have kids (and I don't see it as likely), they'll get the same treatment as I received. And if they threaten to call child services, they'll get the same response that I got, "go ahead, but you'll be the one that they take away, not us"

[zmjjmz]

Mustache

[Kopachris]

How could you say that about me?! :mad: :P
Ditto. I was spanked as a child (technically, still a child until 18...). I am personally appalled by the way a lot of kids (not all of them, mind you) behave these days.

EDIT: Seems like the vast majority of people who were spanked when they misbehaved as children are glad they were, myself included, because they can now like who they are, knowing the difference between right and wrong.

[swoll1980]

Ditto. I was spanked as a child (technically, still a child until 18...). I am personally appalled by the way a lot of kids (not all of them, mind you) behave these days.

It's funny your not even 18, and you say "a lot of kids" like your not one of them.