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Johnsie
February 6th, 2009, 11:49 AM
I'm comparing two budget machines. Which one do you guys think is better (performance-wise) and why?

Ebuyer
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155468

AMD Version:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-084-OK&groupid=43&catid=1078&subcat=

Intel Version
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-000-OE&groupid=43&catid=1078&subcat=


Thanks in advance,

Johnsie

lakersforce
February 6th, 2009, 11:50 AM
Intel is better supported in the Linux kernel (at least that's my personal experience).

Johnsie
February 6th, 2009, 11:57 AM
I'm an Intel man myself but that's due to ignorance. I'm kind of afraid to go AMD because I'm not sure about the performance. I will be processing reasonably large data files.

cb951303
February 6th, 2009, 12:03 PM
AMD is usually leader in "best bang for your buck" category. Great performance/value ratio.

t12t43
February 6th, 2009, 12:04 PM
I think Intel one is better.
Because it's good for Ubuntu.

gn2
February 6th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Overclockers should be rebranded Overchargers.

Double the ram, much bigger hard drive, keyboard and mouse thrown in, bigger case for additional hard drives etc, and £50 cheaper (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155468).

And free delivery.

az
February 6th, 2009, 12:09 PM
Pentium are now the extreme low-end Intel processor. Celerons are now more advanced.

I would go with the AMD. It will outperform a dual-core pentium. Now if this were an Intel core2, that would be a different story. The AMD will also consume less power and generate less heat than the pentium.

eragon100
February 6th, 2009, 12:09 PM
The AMD processor is clocked at 2.60 GHZ per core, the intel one at 2.00 GHZ per core. While this certainly doesn't say everything, I would guess the amd processor is a bit faster, providing it doesn't have much less cache memory.

mihai.ile
February 6th, 2009, 12:10 PM
I always had AMD. It is doing the same as Intel but at a lower price.
Well sort of. For what I learned the cpu's get warmer than intel and uses mor WATT. Now I have an Intel on my laptop as is better for energy saving.

I think that by looking into some benchmarks you could see if the two cpu's have the same speed. But note that the intel will be cooler and use less energy so it's a great thing, now with all this global climat change and your energy bill if you will have the pc almost always on. But you still have to check for cpu specifications to be sure.

Dies
February 6th, 2009, 12:16 PM
On specs alone, the AMD offer is clearly the best bang for your buck. Better CPU, better motherboard.

That said, either one should work well with Linux.


Edit - The Ebuyer one that got added blows the other two away, more memory, more storage...

Johnsie
February 6th, 2009, 12:25 PM
Ok they ebuyer one is in the mix now. Thanks to the person who suggested that.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155468

gn2
February 6th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Pentium are now the extreme low-end Intel processor. Celerons are now more advanced.

I would go with the AMD. It will outperform a dual-core pentium. Now if this were an Intel core2, that would be a different story. The AMD will also consume less power and generate less heat than the pentium.

It's a Pentium E, no relation to the older Pentium 4 or D.

The Pentium E and the Celeron E are both 64-bit capable Allendale Core architecture CPUs.
The Pentium E has double the cache of a Celeron Dual-core, and some of them have a faster clock speed as well.
The differences between a Pentium E and a low end Core 2 are marginal.

Pentium E (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_microprocessors#.22Allendale.22_.2865_nm.29)
Celeron E (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron#Celeron_Dual-Core_.28Core.29)

00b00nt00
February 6th, 2009, 12:46 PM
I kind of want to say 'People, support AMD 'coz if they go away Intel has no incentive to make better chips'.

That said, it's like comparing Boeing and Airbus. I'd be happy with either.

gn2
February 6th, 2009, 01:22 PM
That said, it's like comparing Boeing and Airbus. I'd be happy with either.

Airbus for me, they float.

az
February 6th, 2009, 02:56 PM
It's a Pentium E, no relation to the older Pentium 4 or D.

The Pentium E and the Celeron E are both 64-bit capable Allendale Core architecture CPUs.
The Pentium E has double the cache of a Celeron Dual-core, and some of them have a faster clock speed as well.
The differences between a Pentium E and a low end Core 2 are marginal.


Fair enough. Would you say that it has better performance than the AMD Athlon X2 given in the example?

mips
February 6th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Fair enough. Would you say that it has better performance than the AMD Athlon X2 given in the example?

The AMD should be slightly faster than the E2200. This review http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html shows the AMD 5200+ to be about on par with the Intel E2200. There is no 5400+ in this review so I'm merely using logic to come to my conclusion.

gn2
February 6th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Fair enough. Would you say that it has better performance than the AMD Athlon X2 given in the example?

I doubt there would be much in it either way.
The one I linked to is much cheaper and higher spec.

jrusso2
February 6th, 2009, 11:25 PM
Pentium are now the extreme low-end Intel processor. Celerons are now more advanced.

I would go with the AMD. It will outperform a dual-core pentium. Now if this were an Intel core2, that would be a different story. The AMD will also consume less power and generate less heat than the pentium.

Yeah I think you are probably right.