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jskandhari
January 19th, 2009, 05:22 AM
I am planning for a powerful Desktop ; in terms of hardware so that it has a awesome performance ; not meanin that i am going to spend cash like water. It should be logical at the same time.

Basic Areas
>Motherboard
>Processor
>Graphic Card

and other hardware components that you feel are must for a powerful desktop machine.:guitar:

mips
January 19th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Gigagbyte MB
Core 2 Quad or Core i7 CPU
nVidia GPU

All depends on how much money you are willing to throw at it.

Here is something I posted in another thread:

Here is multiple options for you based on price. All brands are excellent.

Core i7 CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128361
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128362

RAM:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/MemorySupport/motherboard_memory_ga-ex58-ud5.pdf
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/MemorySupport/motherboard_memory_ga-ex58-extreme.pdf

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150326
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001669%2040000048%20106792634&name=GeForce%20GTX%20200%20Series&SpeTabStoreType=1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001669%2040000048%20106792522%201067942536&name=GeForce%209800%20GT&SpeTabStoreType=1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2%2050001669%2040000048%20106792522%201067942261&name=GeForce%209800%20GTX%2b&SpeTabStoreType=1

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112168
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194027
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151030
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151031
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151028

HD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014%2050001305%201035424340%20103530113&name=400GB%20-%20750GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014%2050001306%201035915133%201035507776% 20103530113%201035424340&name=32MB

DVD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131059

LCD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005112

Keyboard & Mouse:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126022&Tpk=Ultra-X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104076
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104079
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104136

Wireless LAN:
Probably something with Atheros, Ralink, Prism & Intel chipset, do proper research!!! The first 3 have completely open source drivers/firmware. Intel has an opensource driver but not the firmware, same goes for some Broadcom chipsets. They should all work fine though. Please see link below:
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html

jskandhari
January 19th, 2009, 02:03 PM
wooah... will check them.. thankz

jimi_hendrix
January 19th, 2009, 02:17 PM
if you want preassembled i say you should check out a gateway FX...i have one and love it...

has an i7, ATI 4875, but i dont know the MB

Spr0k3t
January 19th, 2009, 02:35 PM
If you have a Microcenter in your area, you can get the i7 920 processor for $229. I've been able to overclock that one to 3.8GHz.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0300438

adamlau
January 19th, 2009, 03:11 PM
The old adage persists: You box will only be as fast as its slowest component. And that component is almost always the HD. Throw your OS on an Mtron 7500 Pro (give me SLC over MLC anyday) with journal logs and /home on a VelociRaptor, or a U320 15K Cheetah. Max out on RAM. My preference is for Corsair, ECC if frequently compiling with -pipe. PAE support for 64GB enabled in the kernel, of course. PC Power & Cooling power supplies are hallmarks of a serious system, DeOxit GOLD along all exposed contacts is another. Granite Digital cables only. Peripherals are just as important. Eizo displays. Unicomp, or Cherry keyboards. In fact, that setup sounds eerily similar to mine :) .

jskandhari
January 20th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Any suggestions about AMD processors or is core i7 above the amd equivalent

cb951303
January 20th, 2009, 01:41 PM
nowadays I think the best value processor is core i7 920 (3rd best intel processor) it's 300$ at newegg.

The best AMD processor which is Phenom II 940 is 275$ at newegg and %20 slower than i7 920.

So, for extra 25$ you get %20 better performance.

But also, consider that i7 motherboards are a little bit more expensive than amd phenom II ones.

Another thing to consider is that, some i7 motherboards supports ECC (buffered) memory. If you are building a workstation it might be handy.

cb951303
January 20th, 2009, 01:44 PM
The old adage persists: You box will only be as fast as its slowest component. And that component is almost always the HD.

it's not true, there are so many different tasks that a computer can do without even working with hd.

wolfe
January 20th, 2009, 06:11 PM
The 940be is now $235 at newegg. The price to performance ration is in amd's favor. Plus its a great overclocker to boot.

EnGorDiaz
January 20th, 2009, 06:59 PM
if you want a gaming/server/power computer

then youll love these parts

NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI MCP - motherboard
a 10000 rpm sata drive there awesome 500gig to 1 tb
Asus BC-1205PT - optical bluray burner
Asus EAH4870X2 - ddr5 extremely fast graphics card
Asus PhysX P1 - 128mb physix card these card are extremely powerful dnt be fooled
Intel i7 965 3.2ghz - best processor on the market so far
Corsair TR3X6G1866C9DF - 6 gig kit of ram very fast 1.3ghz ram


now casing i really suggest thermaltake casing

like these cases sword m series
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1272&ID=1418
i love this

cooling
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Category.aspx?C=1134
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1139&ID=1592
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1160&ID=1615

the ultimate pc at your fingertips

a little description

you could proly throw the case at a wall with everything built and it would still be completely intacked the computer performance will be very high you would be able to do anything you want to well almost...

billgoldberg
January 20th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Core i7 and a compatible motherboard.

Pick a decent nvidea graphics card.

I would at least go with 8gb of ram.

Don't forget to get a decent power supply.

If you are adding a wireless card in there, make sure it's 802.11n compatible.

jskandhari
January 21st, 2009, 04:22 AM
AMD vs INTEL processor(s) which one is Good overall because motherboard and everything is effected..

or is it like different people different views.. some like mini some like sedans

phrostbyte
January 21st, 2009, 04:50 AM
With i7 machine you want to get memory in the following increments to get maximum bandwidth: 3 GB, 6 GB, 12 GB

Skripka
January 21st, 2009, 04:56 AM
With i7 machine you want to get memory in the following increments to get maximum bandwidth: 3 GB, 6 GB, 12 GB

The catch being that DDR3 is so new that no local retailers tend to have it, and one must order it in. Not even WorstBuy in NowHere has any in stock yet. Of course if one is NewEgging it anyway, it doesn't matter too much.

@OP:

Intel LGA775 is being sold cheap as is DDR2--you can get some fantastic deals on 3.0 gHz Core2Duos right now as well.

BTW-use a Lian Li tower.

Skripka
January 21st, 2009, 04:58 AM
nowadays I think the best value processor is core i7 920 (3rd best intel processor) it's 300$ at newegg.

The best AMD processor which is Phenom II 940 is 275$ at newegg and %20 slower than i7 920.

So, for extra 25$ you get %20 better performance.

But also, consider that i7 motherboards are a little bit more expensive than amd phenom II ones.

Another thing to consider is that, some i7 motherboards supports ECC (buffered) memory. If you are building a workstation it might be handy.


Yes but where you get wallet-raped is in the cost of RAM.

cb951303
January 21st, 2009, 11:38 AM
Yes but where you get wallet-raped is in the cost of RAM.

oh I thought DDR3 was backwards compatible but apparently it's not. But note that Phenom II too will require DDR3 when AM3 socket mobos come out. AMD's advantage is, they also work with AM2+ motherboards. So apperently the best bet here is

Phenom II 940 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471)
DFI Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136041)
And I highly recommend this case: Antec P182 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025&Tpk=antec%20p182)

:popcorn:

cb951303
January 21st, 2009, 11:55 AM
AMD vs INTEL processor(s) which one is Good overall because motherboard and everything is effected..

or is it like different people different views.. some like mini some like sedans

Intel is a little bit ahead of AMD, technology-wise. But don't let it fool you, it only affects people who wants the latest/fastest/best products. Considering the price drop of Phenom II to $235 and the fact that you can use it with a DDR2 mobo makes AMD Phenom II 940be the best value (performance/value ratio) CPU on the market. I always choose best value over best performance... It's up to you now. Do you want to spend more and get the best computer or do you want to spend less and get a reasonably fast one?

elmer_42
January 21st, 2009, 03:21 PM
cb[random#'s] is right. Intel's the fastest, but much more expensive when you account for the motherboard and (possibly) DDR3 RAM. Personally, I'm going to get a Phenom II, but that's just because I already have an AM2 motherboard. If you're building from the ground up you have more of a decision to make.

Skripka
January 21st, 2009, 03:27 PM
oh I thought DDR3 was backwards compatible but apparently it's not. But note that Phenom II too will require DDR3 when AM3 socket mobos come out. AMD's advantage is, they also work with AM2+ motherboards. So apperently the best bet here is

Phenom II 940 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471)
DFI Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136041)
And I highly recommend this case: Antec P182 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025&Tpk=antec%20p182)

:popcorn:

Yep, the keying is different on DDR3. Same number of pins though.

Ironically-my brother discovered this the hard way, when he was rebuilding his box....was proudly putting together all the parts....went to put in his Mushkin DDR2 RAM....and thence came a chorus of swearing....and more swearing once he found that there was no DDR3 to be found in all of NowHere (WorstBuy, CircuitCity, or other smaller local dealers--in town of ~250k).

cb951303
January 21st, 2009, 06:07 PM
...I'm going to get a Phenom II, but that's just because I already have an AM2 motherboard.

Note that, if it's only AM2 and not AM2+ your system bus speed will be limited to HT1.0 (2000MT/s)

jskandhari
January 22nd, 2009, 03:56 AM
Even I like to compare the feature with money and always settel for Value for money along with features.

So Core i7 is powerful but i need a DDR3 ram is a catch.

So let it be a AMD :D so should it be a AM2 or AM2+ motherboard and other components that would come along with them/

Knight Palatine
January 29th, 2009, 12:50 AM
So let it be a AMD :D so should it be a AM2 or AM2+ motherboard and other components that would come along with them/

You'll need the AM2+ board for a Phenom II.

I'm thinking of going this route myself. Core i7 is a real budget-breaker for me, even at $230 for the i7 920, because of the higher costs of the MB and DDR3. Anything I get at this point will be more capable than my old Athlon 64 3000 (RIP), which was still adequate at the time of its death, or the old box I'm typing this on (Celeron + onboard graphics -- forget streaming media and don't open too many Firefox tabs).