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    Non Obvious Install

    Ok so I have a laptop that I want to put ubuntu on, currently the laptop has vista on it.
    I want the laptop to appear and act to the untrained eye as though it only has vista installed.
    no grub loader loading
    no default popping of any OS lists showing anything out of the ordinary on.
    ideally to hide the ext3 partition so it doesn't show up in windows at all.
    I would like it to just automatically boot to windows with no interaction, and perhaps a key to press during boot to choose to boot into ubuntu.

    is any/all of this possible?

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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    You could do a normal install, and then exit grub to automatically boot to windows... (set wait time to 0, and make vista the default)

    Why you would want to do this is beyond me, there would be no way to get into linux! Oh well.

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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    You can also change the
    ## hiddenmenu
    # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
    #hiddenmenu
    section of your menu.lst so that the grub menu is hidden at boot unless you press Esc.
    To hide:
    ## hiddenmenu
    # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
    hiddenmenu
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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    Note that the hidden menu option displays something like:

    Booting to default operating system in 3 2 1 ...

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    Question Re: Non Obvious Install

    You could use Wubi to install, (it's Ubuntu on your computer, but it acts like a Windows application- you can uninstall it with one click, it just takes a portion of your harddrive,) and set the Grub wait time to 0, or 1 second, so as you have enough time to press the "ESC" key to stop GRUB from booting. Then, put Windows first on your boot list so it will immediately boot into Vista afterwords. If you don't press "ESC," it'll just boot into Ubuntu. I'm not sure how to make it so it'll boot into Windows and only Linux by pushing a button, only vice-versa...?
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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    ideally booting to ubuntu would be some way to make the computer actually see the ext3 partition as a seperate hard drive to boot from, so I could have two completely uninteracting operating systems that could be chosen by using the bios boot menu to choose where to boot from.

    now i know that that is not actually a posibility, and installing a 2nd hard drive is not an option for a laptop.

    but that's really where i'm hoping to go

    the goal is if my boss were to pick up this laptop, power it on and do a light amount of poking around, making sure there's not porn, etc on the laptop, for her to not realize that ubuntu is installed unless she was specifically looking for it.

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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    Quote Originally Posted by NomadTW View Post
    ideally booting to ubuntu would be some way to make the computer actually see the ext3 partition as a seperate hard drive to boot from, so I could have two completely uninteracting operating systems that could be chosen by using the bios boot menu to choose where to boot from.

    now i know that that is not actually a posibility, and installing a 2nd hard drive is not an option for a laptop.

    but that's really where i'm hoping to go

    the goal is if my boss were to pick up this laptop, power it on and do a light amount of poking around, making sure there's not porn, etc on the laptop, for her to not realize that ubuntu is installed unless she was specifically looking for it.
    If it's your own personal laptop, then it's up to you what you put on it - you shouldn't have to be sneaky. Fostering a good working relationship with your boss is a good idea too, where you can be open and honest without having to hide things.
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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    Boot from an Ubuntu Live CD or USB stick. No changes to your hard drive, no trace that you ever used Ubuntu...

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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    Quote Originally Posted by lisati View Post
    If it's your own personal laptop, then it's up to you what you put on it - you shouldn't have to be sneaky. Fostering a good working relationship with your boss is a good idea too, where you can be open and honest without having to hide things.
    it is more or less a personal laptop, but there are restrictions on what i can have on it to use for work to be able to use the laptop for work.
    there are many reasons that ubuntu is much better than windows for what i do, one thing that comes to mind is the fact that on plugging just about any printer into the computer it's ready to print in a minute or less instead of having to install every single HP printer i plug into seperately taking like 10 minutes a piece.
    i do not not for sure that installing linux on the laptop would be a violation, but i would rather hide it and not have to find out than be flat out told no.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
    Boot from an Ubuntu Live CD or USB stick. No changes to your hard drive, no trace that you ever used Ubuntu...
    running from the live CD will not work as there are several tweaks that i have to set up for things like pda tethering, and accessing hfs

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    Re: Non Obvious Install

    Why jeopardize your job, ask your boss if she minds if you install Ubuntu on your laptop.

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