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    Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    Hello,

    Ive got an new Notebook, but ive got a Problem too

    Ive read a lot information before i bought it, and my information was that the X3100 Graphic adapter isnt sooo worse... !

    Now ive installed the Driver out of the Box from Hardy, but i got only 1100 Frames in glxgears, and compiz is Down !

    My Notebook has : 3GB Ram, 2,4Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, And an 965M Intel Graphics adapter !

    Output of grep agp :

    [ 32.301198] Linux agpgart interface v0.102
    [ 32.417173] agpgart: Detected an Intel 965GM Chipset.
    [ 32.418581] agpgart: Detected 7676K stolen memory.
    [ 32.430734] agpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000000



    ---> My Problem Now : I want to play an Old Game like UT, an the strangest thing is : I Can push the resolution from 640 X 480 to 1280 X 800, the Perfrmance is still the same... It stucks a little bit, and the Performance over all is very horrible !

    Any Suggestions how to push the Performace, so that i can play this game without problems ? because it seems like my Graphic adapter isnt giving all of its power !

    Hope on ur Help

    Greets from Germany !

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    No one good news ? Like " Its an driver issue" ---> The missing performance !

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    Have you played also with the details ? Remove foliage, high detailed textures and other options that stress the graphic card. You should be able to play it in 1280x800 with medium details. As for the power of the X3100, it is very very low : http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4154 .

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    keep searching threads. It is a prob with the shared memory of the x3100 video. My setup is not reporting the right amount of memory. 64m! and the chip should allow up to 384m or shared ram-way more than Unreal needs. Im sure we can get unreal running fast frame rates once we get the dang memory sharing like its designed for.
    The above link about x3100 being a "low" chip also states the the card is plenty for Unreal, "As you can see, the GMA X3100 actually acquits itself pretty favorably in UT2004, delivering solid performance all the way up to 1024x768 at medium settings"
    You MAY be able to change settings in your bios for the memory on your system. My system bios will not give option for memory its a compaq 6710b but same vid chip as you. The specs on the x3100 say it can share 384m ram so I would not consider it, "very low," just needs some adjustments. I saw a thread was trying to find it again when i found yours. Ill post back when i find it. Good luck and please post solution when you get it---its out here somewhere i saw it lol
    Last edited by HappyHenry; July 18th, 2008 at 07:12 AM.
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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    T61 Thinkpad
    1.8gz Centrino Core 2 duo
    1GB DDR2-667
    Intel x3100
    Kubuntu 8.04
    Stock xorg.conf

    I don't care about compiz for a laptop, but I would like to play some older games every once in a while.

    I am also getting ~1000fps with glxgears. UT2004 plays jerky whether its on 640x480 lowest settings or 1280x800(WS) with medium-high settings. I have even tested UT2004 on Fluxbox and nothing seems to change the performance.(Except windowed mode crashes X)

    I don't think it is a memory problem because lspci reports 256M for me:

    Code:
    $ sudo lspci -v -s 00:02.0
    00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
            Subsystem: Lenovo Unknown device 20b5
            Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
            Memory at f8100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
            Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
            I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
            Capabilities: [90] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0 Enable-
            Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 3
    Here is my xorg.conf.

    Code:
    # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
    #
    # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
    # values from the debconf database.
    #
    # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
    # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
    #
    # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
    # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
    # package.
    #
    # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
    # again, run the following command:
    #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Generic Keyboard"
            Driver          "kbd"
            Option          "XkbRules"      "xorg"
            Option          "XkbModel"      "pc105"
            Option          "XkbLayout"     "us"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
            Driver          "mouse"
            Option          "CorePointer"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
            Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
            Driver          "synaptics"
            Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
            Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
            Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
            Option          "HorizEdgeScroll"       "0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
            Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
            Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
            Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
            Identifier      "Default Screen"
            Monitor         "Configured Monitor"
            Device          "Configured Video Device"
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
            Identifier      "Default Layout"
            Screen          "Default Screen"
            InputDevice     "Synaptics Touchpad"
    EndSection
    Any other ideas?

    I will continue to look around...

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    Something strange is going on.
    Even though lspci states that I am using 256Mb of memory for the x3100, my free -m says something different:

    Code:
    ~$ free -m
                 total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
    Mem:           985        889         96          0         58        544
    -/+ buffers/cache:        286        699
    Swap:          956          0        956
    I have 1024Mb and free states that I have 985Mb, Is my video memory only using 39Mb of memory? This is not cool at all. I now think HappyHenry was right about the memory issue.

    Why is lspci not giving me the correct video memory usage?

    It seems as though the allocation problem is with the Intel driver.
    However, does't the BIOS allocate the video memory before any OS boots us?

    I am going to try to find out more. Anybody who has any ideas, PLEASE post.

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    I tried to set the VideoRam option to 128MB(131072kB) in the device section of xorg.conf, but the intel driver thinks it is better than me ...

    Code:
    Section "Device"
     41         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
     42         Option          "UseFBDev"              "true"
     43         VideoRam        131072 # 128MB
     44 EndSection
    And it might very well be. The xorg logs say that it will use 256MB instead of the 128MB I set.

    Here is what my /var/log/Xorg.0.log says:
    Code:
    (WW) intel(0): VideoRam configuration found, which is no longer recommended.
    (II) intel(0): Continuing with default 262144kB VideoRam instead of 131072 kB.
    (II) intel(0): Kernel reported 234496 total, 1 used
    (II) intel(0): I830CheckAvailableMemory: 937980 kB available
    Some interesting snippits from the xorg logs:
    Code:
    (WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
    (==) intel(0): Using EXA for acceleration
    (WW) intel(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
    (II) intel(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
    (II) intel(0): VESA BIOS detected
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 7616 kB
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 1.0
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: Intel Corporation
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(r)Crestline Graphics Controller
    (II) intel(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: Hardware Version 0.0
    (II) intel(0): detected 7676 kB stolen memory.
    (WW) intel(0): Register 0x61200 (PP_STATUS) changed from 0xc0000008 to 0xd0000009
    (WW) intel(0): PP_STATUS before: on, ready, sequencing idle
    (WW) intel(0): PP_STATUS after: on, ready, sequencing on
    (WW) intel(0): EXA greedy migration mode enabled.
    (II) intel(0): Fixed memory allocation layout:
    (II) intel(0): 0x00000000-0x0001ffff: ring buffer (128 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x00020000-0x00029fff: HW cursors (40 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x0002a000-0x00031fff: logical 3D context (32 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x00032000-0x00041fff: exa G965 state buffer (64 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x00042000-0x00042fff: overlay registers (4 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x00100000-0x0073ffff: front buffer (6400 kB) X tiled
    (II) intel(0): 0x00740000-0x019fffff: exa offscreen (19200 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x0077f000:            end of stolen memory
    (II) intel(0): 0x01a00000-0x0203ffff: back buffer (6400 kB) X tiled
    (II) intel(0): 0x02040000-0x0267ffff: depth buffer (6400 kB) Y tiled
    (II) intel(0): 0x02680000-0x0467ffff: classic textures (32768 kB)
    (II) intel(0): 0x10000000:            end of aperture
    (II) intel(0): direct rendering: Enabled
    (WW) intel(0): Option "UseFBDev" is not used
    
    
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31
    (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32

    I just got an update for the intel driver. My versions are now:
    xserver-xorg-video-i810=2:1.7.4-0ubuntu7
    xserver-xorg-video-intel=2:2.2.1-1ubuntu3.6

    Doesn't seem to make a difference.

    However, since the xorg.conf does not specify driver, I don't which one is used. I am going to play around with some xorg.conf settings...

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    I added some things to the xorg.conf.
    First I added a "Module" section which was missing and added some modules which I psudo-randomly choose:
    Code:
    Section "Module"
            Load  "glx"
            Load  "dri"
            Load  "dbe"
            Load  "extmod"
    EndSection
    I added this to the "Device" Section:
    Code:
    Option          "XVideo"        "On
    And this at the end:
    Code:
    Section "DRI"
            Mode 0666
    EndSection
    None of this has made any difference.

    Could anyone with a newer Intel chipset that can play games fine please post their xorg.conf?

    With gfx at the absolute minimum and with 320x200 resolution, UT2004 gets a framerate of 1-75. Going from ~1fps to ~75fps every freaking second. A fluctuating fps like that makes it VERY hard to play.

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    I don't know if mucking around in xorg.conf will help. I think it's a driver issue.

    In WinXP my X3100 works with UT2K4 flawlessly. I run the game on high settings, with no problems.

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    Re: Intel x3100, 2,4GhZ C2Duo, too weak for UT2004 ?

    Any updates on this? I'm having the same problem.. the X3100 card is almost unusable for anything 3D on Ubuntu, and performs as good as expected on Vista..

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