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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    Good ideas already presented:

    a) get a team to help
    b) structure the website better so its easier to browse

    My idea is to have a random area that anybody can post ideas to, and the rest of the areas (main categories) require approval by the chosen team. That way, no idea is lost, but the really good ideas get precedence. Easier management is a given as the main categories will not be as big.
    Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly here, KingTermite.

    So, in other words, each category would have a team assigned to it, and people would post random brainstorms to appropriate categories, and the team would act as a filter so that the general public would be allowed to vote on only ideas that are really good (well-formulated, feasible, not duplicates).

    If that's what you're proposing, I'm all for it.

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by aysiu View Post
    Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly here, KingTermite.

    So, in other words, each category would have a team assigned to it, and people would post random brainstorms to appropriate categories, and the team would act as a filter so that the general public would be allowed to vote on only ideas that are really good (well-formulated, feasible, not duplicates).

    If that's what you're proposing, I'm all for it.
    This is a good idea.

    What if the ideas are implemented similar to the way threads are in this forums?

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    I think part of the problem is that people confuse bug reports with ideas. I've seen numerous "ideas" that really are bugs that should be filed on Launchpad. There also seems to be a lot of package requests going on brainstorm as well which is not the proper way to request a package. Posting package requests on Brainstorm probably isn't going to get them packaged.
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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by aysiu View Post
    Let me see if I'm understanding you correctly here, KingTermite.

    So, in other words, each category would have a team assigned to it, and people would post random brainstorms to appropriate categories, and the team would act as a filter so that the general public would be allowed to vote on only ideas that are really good (well-formulated, feasible, not duplicates).

    If that's what you're proposing, I'm all for it.
    Sort of. I meant have a "random" or "new idea" area that anybody can post to. Only one team, and that team votes on new ideas posted to that area to determine whether they are promoted into a "real" category.

    The public submission forum will essentially be unmaintained (making maintenance easy) other than promoting the team selected ideas to a category.

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by FuturePilot View Post
    I think part of the problem is that people confuse bug reports with ideas.
    True. From my limited time at the brainstorm website, this was EXACTLY what made it not as fun to browse. Most ideas were "make <X> better", "make <y> have THIS feature", "make Ubuntu not crash for <Z>".

    If a committee had to vote to promote the ideas, then those type of "ideas" could be limited and not have to be sorted through for actual ideas.

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Once you guys have decided on a plan and need extra manpower, you have one volunteer here.
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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    Sort of. I meant have a "random" or "new idea" area that anybody can post to. Only one team, and that team votes on new ideas posted to that area to determine whether they are promoted into a "real" category.

    The public submission forum will essentially be unmaintained (making maintenance easy) other than promoting the team selected ideas to a category.
    Interesting.
    So what you have in mind would be similar to the slashdot firehose, i.e. anyone can submit stories, and vote for them on the firehose. Then moderators looks at them and decide which of them to include in the front page stream of news, according to their relevance, their following the rules and the general interest.

    A global filter before reaching the main idea pages. Hmm, that could be great! As far as I remember, this has not yet been submitted.

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by nand View Post
    Interesting.
    So what you have in mind would be similar to the slashdot firehose, i.e. anyone can submit stories, and vote for them on the firehose. Then moderators looks at them and decide which of them to include in the front page stream of news, according to their relevance, their following the rules and the general interest.

    A global filter before reaching the main idea pages. Hmm, that could be great! As far as I remember, this has not yet been submitted.
    OK...sounds about the same as what I'm proposing. I don't frequent slash dot too much, but it sounds like pretty much the same set up as I'm proposing.

    Doesn't have to be exactly that way, but something along those lines would be a good way to go I think.

    I volunteer too if you want a help team.

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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    Quote Originally Posted by nand View Post
    Interesting.
    So what you have in mind would be similar to the slashdot firehose, i.e. anyone can submit stories, and vote for them on the firehose. Then moderators looks at them and decide which of them to include in the front page stream of news, according to their relevance, their following the rules and the general interest.

    A global filter before reaching the main idea pages. Hmm, that could be great! As far as I remember, this has not yet been submitted.
    +1

    i seen some people submit unrealistic ideas like:

    "Canonical should get EA to port all their games"

    clearly that won't happen any time soon (unrealistic), nor it's canonical's responsibility but everyone voted it up...

    moderate idea submission.

    moderators should point users where to submit bug reports (in case the submitted "idea" turns out to be one)

    also, if an idea does not make it out of the brainfart area to the public voting area, let the user know exactly why, don't leave them hanging. Let them discuss it all they want and anyone can comment.
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    Re: Ubuntu Brainstorm is a mess

    I've created a brainstorm idea on this. I expect it to be voted down, though, as people won't really read the idea. They'll just take a look at the title and think "I don't want people filtering my ideas!" Unfortunately, I couldn't make the title any longer than that.

    Idea #10848: Have moderators who filter out brainstorms before people can vote on them

    By the way, here are some other Brainstorm-related brainstorms I thought had merit:
    Idea #10695: Brainstorm: Show vote count on ideas
    Idea #10461: Brainstorm: add "Mark this idea as 'not an idea'" - button
    Idea #9775: Ubuntu Brainstorm should start with random latest ideas
    Idea #10294: Expand vote from Yes/No to Yes/Indifferent/No or 1-5 vote
    Idea #10081: Brainstorm - make text entry box widths wider

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