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    [SOLVED] need some phone help

    Is their anyone that could help me via the telephone? I live in Palos Verdes California. I have just installed UBUNTU 8.04 and Linux MINT on two different hard drives and believe I have grub problem. I also have Windows XP on a third HD. My Phone is ***. The name here is Bill and I am beginner on linux.
    Last edited by bapoumba; June 9th, 2008 at 10:28 PM. Reason: Removed private phone number.

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    Re: need some phone help

    What is your problem exactly?

    Maybe someone can help on the forums.

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    Re: need some phone help

    I have 3 HD's one has had win-xp on it for more than a year. Another one has had UBUNTU 8.04 on it for 1 month. The last one has had Linux Mint on it about for about a week. Before installing Mint I was runing win or ubuntu by changing the boot sequence in the cmos at start up. one HD is a PATA drive (Mint). The other 2 are SATA drives. When I setup the boot sequence as follows PATA,SATA1,SATA2 I get the following screen 2 options for Mint and 2 options for Ubuntu no mention of Win. If I select Ubuntu all goes well(noprob.) if I select Mint I get a Mint screen for a few seconds then all goes black. Could their be a problem with Grub and Win MBR?

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    Re: need some phone help

    Quote Originally Posted by bj218 View Post
    I have 3 HD's one has had win-xp on it for more than a year. Another one has had UBUNTU 8.04 on it for 1 month. The last one has had Linux Mint on it about for about a week. Before installing Mint I was runing win or ubuntu by changing the boot sequence in the cmos at start up. one HD is a PATA drive (Mint). The other 2 are SATA drives. When I setup the boot sequence as follows PATA,SATA1,SATA2 I get the following screen 2 options for Mint and 2 options for Ubuntu no mention of Win. If I select Ubuntu all goes well(noprob.) if I select Mint I get a Mint screen for a few seconds then all goes black. Could their be a problem with Grub and Win MBR?
    I'm close enough to call you, but first lets see if we can solve your problem online , that way more people can benefit from it.

    1 SATA HD = XP, 1 SATA HD = ubuntu, 1 IDE HD = Mint, correct> Thre all plugged in, but you switch them through the BIOS, coorect?

    Can you leave them all connected through the BIOS and will they boot up that way. Why mess with the BIOS everything?

    output of '/etc/fstab' & '/boot/grub/menu.lst' would help. But then all would change when you enable/disable the hard drives through the BIOS.

    I'm just guessing your afraid of tainting your hard drives that's why you have each OS on a separate hard drive. They could all happily coexists on one hard drive.

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    Re: need some phone help

    I just spent about an hour trying to ans your response and when I tried to submit it said i was not authorized to do this. I think all my effort was lost!! bj218

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    Re: need some phone help

    Just type the following commands:
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    cat /etc/fstab
    cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    Then just cut & paste the result into your post.
    Surround the pasted text with code tags (# button in the advanced post section).

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    Re: need some phone help

    About a year ago I had Ubuntu 7.04 and WIN XP on one drive and everything worked good for quite a while, then one day I must have done something wrong and ubuntu wiped out the whole drive. I then put each OS on a separatet drive and used the boot sequence to run the OS I wanted to use.
    Today during bootup I pressed Pause and this is what I saw:
    Auto Detecting Pri Master..IDE Hard Drive
    Auto Detecting PriSlave.. CD/DVD ROM
    Auto Detecting 3rd Master..IDE Hard Drive
    Auto Detecting 4th Master..IDE Hard Drive
    Pri Master: WDC 1000
    PriSlave: DVDRW IDE16X
    3rd Master:WDC 2500
    4th Master:WDC 1600
    Boot sequence was set as follows:
    1st Boot Drive WDC 1000
    2nd BootDrive WDC 2500
    3rd Boot Drive WDC 1600

    At bootup I get the following screen:
    Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.22-14 generic
    Linux Mint, kernel 2.6.22-14 generic (recovery mode)
    Linux Mint, kernel memtest 86x
    Other Operating Systems:
    Ubuntu 8.04,kernel 2.6.24-17 generic (on/dev/sda1)
    Ubuntu 8.04,kernel 2.6.24-17 (recovery mode) (on/dev/sda1)
    NOTE: Down at the bottom of the screen are the following words:
    Boot Options “root=dev/hda1 ro quiet splash

    If I press enter on the first item I get the Linux Mint screen and it looks like it is loading
    after about 10sec. The screen goes BLACK. All I can do after this is press the reset switch .
    If I press enter on the second item I get lots of screens in just a few sec. The last item on this screen is “root@bj218-desktop:~#. If I press enter at this time I get a few more screens then the system reboots.
    If I press enter on Ubuntu it loads and works great.

    The only way I can get to Win XP is to change the boot sequence.

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    Re: need some phone help

    It looks like you are using a copy of grub installed by Linux Mint. This has probably installed to the MBR of your first HDD (WDC 1000).

    The first step to find out why Mint doesn't boot is to look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on the Mint drive.

    You could add an entry for Windows. The listing of /etc/fstab will help in writing the appropriate entry.

    Finally, you will probably have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file on your Ubuntu drive which is not being used. It may be easier to use your Ubuntu copy of grub.

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    Re: need some phone help

    bill@bill-desktop:~$ cat /etc/fstab
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
    proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
    # /dev/sda1
    UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
    # /dev/sda3
    UUID=e2c057b4-5682-4789-b564-d2369e769c9e none swap sw 0 0
    /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
    /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
    bill@bill-desktop:~$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
    # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
    # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
    # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
    # and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

    ## default num
    # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
    # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
    #
    # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
    # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
    # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
    # array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
    default 0

    ## timeout sec
    # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
    # (normally the first entry defined).
    timeout 15

    ## hiddenmenu
    # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
    #hiddenmenu

    # Pretty colours
    #color cyan/blue white/blue

    ## password ['--md5'] passwd
    # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
    # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
    # command 'lock'
    # e.g. password topsecret
    # password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
    # password topsecret

    #
    # examples
    #
    # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
    # root (hd0,0)
    # makeactive
    # chainloader +1
    #
    # title Linux
    # root (hd0,1)
    # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
    #

    #
    # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

    ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
    ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
    ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

    ## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

    ## ## Start Default Options ##
    ## default kernel options
    ## default kernel options for automagic boot options
    ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
    ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
    ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
    ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
    ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
    # kopt=root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro

    ## Setup crashdump menu entries
    ## e.g. crashdump=1
    # crashdump=0

    ## default grub root device
    ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
    # groot=(hd0,0)

    ## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. alternative=true
    ## alternative=false
    # alternative=true

    ## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockalternative=true
    ## lockalternative=false
    # lockalternative=false

    ## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
    ## alternatives
    ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
    # defoptions=quiet splash

    ## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
    ## e.g. lockold=false
    ## lockold=true
    # lockold=false

    ## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenhopt=

    ## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
    # xenkopt=console=tty0

    ## altoption boot targets option
    ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
    ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
    ## altoptions=(recovery) single
    # altoptions=(recovery mode) single

    ## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
    ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
    ## alternative kernel options
    ## e.g. howmany=all
    ## howmany=7
    # howmany=all

    ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
    ## e.g. memtest86=true
    ## memtest86=false
    # memtest86=true

    ## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
    ## can be true or false
    # updatedefaultentry=false

    ## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
    ## can be true or false
    # savedefault=false

    ## ## End Default Options ##

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-18-generic
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic
    quiet

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-18-generic (recovery mode)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro single
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-17-generic
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-17-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic
    quiet

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-17-generic (recovery mode)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-17-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro single
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-17-generic

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro quiet splash
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic
    quiet

    title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (recovery mode)
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=UUID=4772fcc0-4a9d-4634-a65f-d7ba9a3d88ac ro single
    initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic

    title Ubuntu 8.04, memtest86+
    root (hd0,0)
    kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
    quiet

    ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

    # This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
    # ones.
    title Other operating systems:
    root


    # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
    # on /dev/sda5
    title Windows NT/2000/XP
    root (hd0,4)
    savedefault
    makeactive
    chainloader +1

    bill@bill-desktop:~$
    NOTE:All of the above was taken from Ubuntu 8.04
    Last edited by bj218; June 7th, 2008 at 06:52 PM.

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    Re: need some phone help

    OK. That menu.lst file is the Ubuntu one that isn't being used at the moment. It will load 3 Ubuntu kernel versions on partition 1 and Windows from an extended logical partition on the same drive (not your current configuration).

    You could use the Ubuntu version of grub but first it would be a good idea to check that the UUIDs for the disks are the same. To check this post the output of:
    Code:
    ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/
    To find out where your Windows is installed type:
    Code:
    sudo fdisk -l
    (unfortunately it was not listed in /etc/fstab)

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