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    Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    I'm in an interesting bit of a jam, so here is the rundown:

    My computer is currently running a dual installation, Windows on one drive, Ubuntu 7.10 on another, both SATA drives. I've been trying to shrink my Ubuntu partition via Gparted, but I have run into several stumbling blocks:

    I am unable to use LiveCDs from versions 7.04 and earlier, since I am using a Nvidia Geforce 8800GT video card, which, from reading several threads, and my own experience, seem to have trouble with Ubuntu.

    So, I naturally attempted to use a Hardy LiveCD, which brings me to my main problem: It boots without trouble. However, neither of my hard drives are recognized by Ubuntu, either in gnome, Gparted, or fdisk. Doing a bit of research, I noticed that one of the known Hardy bugs was about SATA drives not being detected in IDE mode, but it seemed to only apply to Dell computers, and I looked around my BIOS, but I didn't see any options concerning SATA and IDE. Also, both my current Ubuntu and Windows installations both detect my hard drives without any trouble.

    I have also tried the standalone Gparted LiveCD, but the video would not work, also due to my 8800GT video card, I'm guessing.

    In short, I'm wondering if anyone has had any trouble or luck in getting a Hardy LiveCD to recognize their SATA hard drives. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    (P.S. Sorry if my explanation is a bit lengthy, but I figure the more information available, the better.)

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    Do you have any optical (CD or DVD) drives on your computer and if yes are they SATA or IDE?

    I found that my problems with libATA were down to shared IRQ's. I had 2 IDE drives on the same IDE cable and a DVD and CDROM again on the same IDE cable.
    I bought a single SATA drive and removed a CDROM< I have have a single IDE hard drive on its own cable, a DVDwriter on its own IDE cable and a SATA HD and performance is great.
    If this is not the case with the Hardy Live CD trypressing F6 and appending irqpoll to the boot prompt, you may get it to boot.

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    I've got 2 SATA optical drives, both of which the LiveCD recognizes. As for irqpoll, I tried it, but the LiveCD still doesn't recognize my hard drives.

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    Quote Originally Posted by kernalsanders123 View Post
    bump?
    Ok, not really sure what your trying to do other then resize your ubuntu partition. If that is all you want to do then use "Insert" a linux distro designed for system fixing.

    I have the problem of the LiveCD detecting my IDE lol, I think Hardy lost support for some motherboard chipsets... VIA for me, an attribute walk shows some werd "pata_via" node... Although a distro upgrade works fine i guess.

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    I'd use my existing install, but the partition I'm trying to resize is the partition Ubuntu is installed on. As for using a LiveCD, I'm kind of the victim of a double whammy. I can't get any versions prior to and including 7.10 to boot properly, which, after doing some research, I attribute to my 8800GT video card. I've done some looking around, and tried several possible solutions, but none of them work.

    And, when I try the Hardy LiveCD, none of my SATA drives are recognized. Some threads report Dell users having a similar problem, which was fixed by switching their SATA mode from IDE to RAID. I checked my BIOS, but the only option I found was to set up RAID on my computer, which I didn't try, since I'm pretty sure would involve wiping my hard drive, unless I'm wrong, which is very possible.

    Another solution that I saw involved adding "all_generic_ide" to the GRUB loading screen, but since I'm using a LiveCD, there is no GRUB screen to my knowledge.

    I've also tried Debian and DSL LiveCDs, but to no avail, also having to do with my video card, I believe.

    So, that is my situation as far as I can tell. If I have overlooked any obvious solutions, I apologize, as I am still a newbie in many respects.
    Last edited by kernalsanders123; June 5th, 2008 at 10:04 PM.

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    I've had trouble with the GParted live CD in the past. Might try the SystemRescueCd its what I use now. It has GParted on it. The PartedMagicCD also has GParted on it. Don't know why your having trouble with the hardy CD not seeing your drives. A bad CD is the only reason I can think of.
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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    I'm pretty sure the CD is good, since I tested it on my Thinkpad, and the CD recognized the hard drive just fine, so I'm pretty sure it's my hardware/hardware settings.

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    Re: Hardy LiveCD won't recognize hard drives

    Ok, I've been doing some more poking around, and I found some related output from running the dmesg command from my LiveCD. Here's an excerpt of what I believe is the applicable information:

    Code:
       26.712873] sata_nv 0000:00:07.0: version 3.5
    [   26.712887] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:07.0[A] -> Link [APSI] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
    [   26.712890] sata_nv 0000:00:07.0: Using ADMA mode
    [   26.713067] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:07.0 to 64
    [   26.714655] scsi0 : sata_nv
    [   26.714850] scsi1 : sata_nv
    [   26.715023] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9f0 ctl 0xbf0 bmdma 0xd400 irq 20
    [   26.715026] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x970 ctl 0xb70 bmdma 0xd408 irq 20
    [   26.918124] usb 1-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
    [   26.930159] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
    [   26.936145] input: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input2
    [   26.960928] input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:02.0-6
    [   26.960937] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
    [   26.960940] /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
    [   27.179562] ata: SEMB device ignored
    [   27.179570] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
    [   27.646789] ata: SEMB device ignored
    [   27.646792] ata2: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
    [   27.646832] ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A] -> Link [APSJ] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
    [   27.646836] sata_nv 0000:00:08.0: Using ADMA mode
    [   27.647024] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:08.0 to 64
    [   27.647129] scsi2 : sata_nv
    [   27.647186] scsi3 : sata_nv
    [   27.647346] ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9e0 ctl 0xbe0 bmdma 0xc000 irq 23
    [   27.647348] ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x960 ctl 0xb60 bmdma 0xc008 irq 23
    [   28.114035] ata3: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
    [   28.277853] ata3.00: ATAPI: SONY    DVD RW AW-G170S, 1.72, max UDMA/66
    [   28.449571] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/66
    [   28.916734] ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
    [   29.096526] ata4.00: ATAPI: LITE-ON COMBO SHC-52S7K, VK03, max UDMA/100
    [   29.284228] ata4.00: configured for UDMA/100
    [   29.285752] scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROM            SONY     DVD RW AW-G170S  1.72 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
    [   29.285758] ata3: bounce limit 0xFFFFFFFF, segment boundary 0xFFFF, hw segs 127
    [   29.286870] scsi 3:0:0:0: CD-ROM            LITE-ON  COMBO SHC-52S7K  VK03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
    [   29.286874] ata4: bounce limit 0xFFFFFFFF, segment boundary 0xFFFF, hw segs 127
    [   29.287015] pata_amd 0000:00:06.0: version 0.3.10
    [   29.287067] PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:06.0 to 64
    [   29.287700] scsi4 : pata_amd
    [   29.287977] scsi5 : pata_amd
    [   29.288506] ata5: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0xe800 irq 14
    [   29.288508] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xe808 irq 15
    [   29.294863] Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
    [   29.298656] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
    [   29.298660] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
    [   29.298694] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
    [   29.306927] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/52x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
    [   29.306976] sr 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
    [   29.310268] sr 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 5
    [   29.310287] sr 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
    [   30.635847] ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
    [   30.676032] ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
    I noticed that it recognizes ata3 and ata4 as my CD drives, and it recognizes ata1 and ata2 as SATA devices, but it doesn't specify. Also, I noticed that after ata1 and ata2, there are entries that state: SEMB device ignored. I tried googling it, but I couldn't really find any useful info about it. Anyone have any idea what it means, and if so, could it be why my hard drives aren't being recognized?

    As for other possible solutions, I've tried adding "all_generic_ide", "irqpoll", "noapic", "nolapic", "acpi=off", and "pci=noacpi" in various combinations, but no dice there.

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