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    Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    The help section in Ubuntu states how easy it is now to set up wireless and fly through the internet. As usual, not for me the first time around. I'm new to Ubuntu, just dropped Xandros and want to totally get rid of Windoze.

    Can anyone give me explicit instructions to get me on the internet in Ubuntu?

    whats the best book out there on Ubuntu?

    E

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    Re: Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Welcome to the Community!

    Can you post the results of your lspci -nn information. This needs to be done from the Terminal. It will help us figure out your wireless card and point you to a guide that can help.

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    Re: Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Can you post the results of your lspci -nn information. This needs to be done from the Terminal. It will help us figure out your wireless card and point you to a guide that can help.

    bob@bob-laptop:~$ lspci -nn
    00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub [8086:27a0] (rev 03)
    00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port [8086:27a1] (rev 03)
    00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01)
    00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 01)
    00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 01)
    00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 01)
    00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 01)
    00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 01)
    00:1d.3 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 01)
    00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 01)
    00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev e1)
    00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:27b9] (rev 01)
    00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Controller [8086:27c4] (rev 01)
    00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller [8086:27da] (rev 01)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] [1002:7149]
    03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX [14e4:170c] (rev 02)
    03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller [1180:0832]
    03:01.1 SD Host controller [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter [1180:0822] (rev 19)
    03:01.2 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller [1180:0843] (rev 0a)
    03:01.3 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter [1180:0592] (rev 05)
    03:01.4 System peripheral [0880]: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller [1180:0852] (rev ff)
    0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
    bob@bob-laptop:~$

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    Re: Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Quote Originally Posted by Eman1955 View Post
    0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
    bob@bob-laptop:~$
    This is your wireless card. Here is a link on how you can get it installed. Or if you have a working internet connection, you can try and find the Hardware Drivers Manager. I think it is under System->Administration. I could be wrong though. I am using KDE instead of Gnome.

    Hope that helps.

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    Re: Wireless in Ubuntu with Dell E1505 - No go

    OK, I'll give this a try. I normally don't give up but I'm ready to give this up and go back to Xandros, at least everything worked but they were slow in updates.

    S

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    Re: Wireless in Ubuntu with Dell E1505 - No go

    "I could be wrong though. I am using KDE instead of Gnome."

    How does one choose KDE over Gnome? I know there are xxx flavors out there, just curious which is better than the next.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Wireless in Ubuntu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Quote Originally Posted by Eman1955 View Post
    "I could be wrong though. I am using KDE instead of Gnome."

    How does one choose KDE over Gnome? I know there are xxx flavors out there, just curious which is better than the next.

    Thanks,

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    There is no real answer to this question. There are so many different reasons to pick one over another. Lots of people like Gnome because of the ease of use. People like KDE because it is similar to Windows in look and feel so it is easier to adjust. Developers like KDE because of the development packages that are available. Some people like things to be lightweight so they go with Xubuntu (Xfce).

    One easy way to test out which desktop manager is to check out Knoppix. It is a LiveCD and it provides various desktop managers to try out. Of course it is a Debian based product so you will run into the wireless thing there also.

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    Re: Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Out of curiosity, what have you done so far in your wireless journey with Ubuntu?

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    Re: Wireless in Ubuntu with Dell E1505 - No go

    ok here is the lastest try and I thought it was going to work because there were no errors. Except in administration -> Networks the wireless setup option was totally gone!

    5/14/08

    Requirements

    You need two things:

    * A kernel >= 2.6.21 (limited support for 2.6.21)
    * Your kernel headers installed

    Please be very sure you have your kernel headers installed before reporting any sort of build issues with this package. This usually will mean having this symlink point to a valid directory with kernel headers in it:

    /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build

    The exception to this is if you are building the package targeting a kernel you are not running. Users doing this should read the Building for external kernels section.

    Additionally, the kernel you're building for needs a valid ".config" file, if it isn't present compat will assume you have PCI, USB and PCMCIA built into your kernel and if not, fail building.

    Where to download

    You can download this package here:

    http://wireless.kernel.org/download/...ss-2.6.tar.bz2

    This package is updated daily. It reflects the latest on wireless-testing.git tree.

    Directly downloading the tarball

    We have enabled anti-hotlinking to the compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2 tarball. This ensures users directed to this tarball from random tutorials online will hopefully read this page. Anti-hotlinking prevents users from accessing the tarball directly before seeing this page. In summary, you cannot directly (for example using wget) this tarball before having viewed this introductory page. If you try to do so you will be redirected here. You can, however, directly download a dated version of the tarball, for example compat-wireless-2008-03-25.tar.bz2.

    You can find the latest dated tarball in the compat-wireless-2.6 download directory.

    Archive of compat-wireless-2.6 tarballs

    linuxwireless.org only hosts the latest dated compat-wireless-2.6 tarball but if you would like an older release please check the compat-wireless-2.6 archive, which is hosted by Orbit.

    Building and installing

    Extract:

    Extract the content of the package: (Downloaded 5/14/08: compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2)

    tar jxvf compat-wireless-$(date -I).tar.bz2

    Build:

    Build the latest Linux wireless subsystem:

    cd compat-wireless-$(date -I)
    make

    Install:

    We use the updates/ directory so your distribution's drivers are left intact.

    sudo make install

    Uninstall:

    This nukes our changes to updates/ so you can go back to using your distribution's supported drivers.

    sudo make uninstall

    Unload:

    Since you might be replacing your old mac80211 drivers you should first try to unload all existing mac80211 and related drivers. Note also that broadcom, zydas, and atheros devices have old legacy drivers which you need to be sure are removed first. We provide a mechanism to unload all old and legacy drivers first so you should run to be sure:

    sudo make unload

    Load:

    If you know what module you need you can simply load the module using modprobe. If you simply are not sure you can use:

    sudo make load

    Note that this will run make unload first, just in case you forgot. This unloads your old wireless subsystem drivers and loads the new shiny ones. For example if ipw3945 and its proprietary daemon are found it'll be stopped and the module unloaded and then iwl3945 will be loaded. If you are simply upgrading a mac80211 driver this will unload the old one and the old mac80211 drivers and load the new ones.

    Drivers

    Here is the list of all the drivers we support in this package.

    Drivers

    adm8211

    at76_usb

    ath5k

    b43

    b43legacy

    iwl3945

    iwl4965

    ipw2100

    ipw2200

    ub8xxx

    libertas_cs

    p54_pci

    p54_usb

    rndis_wlan

    rt2400pci

    rt2400pci

    rt2500pci

    rt2500usb

    rt61pci

    rt73usb

    rtl8180

    rtl8187

    zd1211rw

    Known issues

    * Strange wireless device names:

    Lets clarify device names first. Regularly you should only see two new device names:

    * wmaster0
    * wlan0

    The wmaster0 device is what we call the master device. The master device is an internal master device used only by mac80211. It should be ignored by users. If possible we will try to hide it from users later.

    On distribution releases with old udev rules you may end up with strange network device names, for example, wlan0_rename. You may also end up with master device names such as eth3, when this was actually intended to be named wmaster0. This happens because master interface has the same MAC address as the real interface, and it is created first. The old udev rule, which keys on the MAC addres, may rename it to device names like eth3, for example. Then the real interface is created, udev sees that it has already renamed an interface with that MAC and gives it the wlan0_rename name.

    If you delete the generated rename rules, it should create the correct ones on the next boot. Alternately, you could add:

    ATTRS{type}="1"

    selector to your current rule. Debian puts these autogenerated udev rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules. Other distributions may vary slightly.

    *

    nl80211:

    Kernels <= 2.6.22 now get nl80211 support, however, genl_multicast_group won't work. This compatibility cannot be extended to older kernels as the struct genl_family was extended on 2.6.23 to add the struct list_head mcast_groups. Right now nothing is using this though so you should be able to use the existing nl80211 userspace applications.

    * b43:

    b43 and b43legacy now load. Since there was an old softmac broadcom driver we provide a load script for this driver. To load the new generation drivers (b43 and b43legacy) you can run:

    sudo b43load b43

    To revert back to bcm43xx you can run:

    sudo b43load bcm43xx

    *

    MadWifi:

    If MadWifi is present the build system will detect this and disable it. It does this by simply renaming ath_pci.ko to ath_pci.ko.ignore. This lets us disable the MadWifi driver without blacklisting it which could cause issues with users later. If you would like to enable MadWifi at a later time and disable ath5k you can run:

    sudo athload madwifi

    To revert back to ath5k you can run:

    sudo athload ath5k

    Why was this work done?

    It was done for users or developers stuck on older kernels that want to help test or patch wireless work. Additionally if you're on a recent kernel this lets you get the latest and greatest wireless-2.6 git work without much effort. This may mean new drivers for some users. Last but not least we hope this will encourage vendors and developers to post patches upstream first rather than forking or maintaining their own mac80211 releases with their own patches for their own drivers.

    * prism54, p54pci, p54usb?

    We don't provide prism54 in this package because distributions already provide it. p54 is its replacement. prism54 works only with full MAC cards. p54 works with both full MAC and soft MAC cards. p54 just doesn't yet support ad-hoc, and AP mode. Should prism54 get any new updates we'll start packaging it here.

    * What about net/ieee80211/softmac/ and their drivers?

    Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt is being updated to mark this for removal. Here is the relevant text:

    What: iee80211 softmac wireless networking component
    When: 2.6.26 (or after removal of bcm43xx and port of zd1211rw to mac80211)
    Files: net/ieee80211/softmac
    Why: No in-kernel drivers will depend on it any longer.
    Who: John W. Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>

    * Firmware:

    If your driver needs firmware please be sure to check the driver page for that driver here:

    http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Driver

    What's the difference between compat-wireless-2.6 and John Linville's tree?

    This package is based on John's tree, we just add compatibility support for older kernels.

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    Re: Wireless in Ubunyu with Dell E1505 - No go

    Wow! I have not ever tried that route with my wireless yet. The 4311 rev 01 card should just work if you install b43-fwcutter. All you have to do if you have a working internet connection is either go into Synaptic/Adept and install b43-fwcutter or else you can go to the Terminal and type:
    Code:
    sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter
    You then let the computer find the firmware for you.

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