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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    How can tar be obsolete? New updates come out for it every year.

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    Tar is great.

    But if I need to archive files, I like to compress them while I'm at it.

    And from what I've heard .7z is the best at that for the moment.

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    tars sole purpose: to bodge files together into one and maintain permissions.

    job done.

    how can it be obsolete if it performs its sole function perfectly?

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    that's not faster, that't the same (if not slower) in speed. I have tared my whole /home directory and that's a huge amount of files and data. It takes tar a couple of minutes to list its contents even in the console.

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    I was under the impression that he meant grabbing a single file out of the tar.gz or .tar.bz2 without decompressing all of it... Sort of like what you can do with a .zip file

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    Slow and obsolete are two different problems. If you need a listing for a large archive in a hurry, feel free to create a separate file with just the listing (which is what most people do).
    Help yourself: Ubuntu Docs - Ubuntu Packages

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    Ok, insane_alien. And if you bodge files together it would be nice if you are provided with easy access to each of the files, wouldn't it? And now i don't have an easy access

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    I called it obsolete, cause i thought that its slowness lies in its architecture and is based on the history of tar, when it was used for tapes (linear data access).

    Edit: And about the listing, that's nice but complicated. I want tar to give me a possibility to choose, for tar itself to make such a listing automatically, and embed it into the archive. And for the ubuntu archive manager, or any other similar program to read this embedded file list, if it exists.
    Or any other way to make it read the metadata quicker, cause i think tar should be a great archiver, not only a file merger.
    Last edited by descentspb; May 6th, 2008 at 10:50 PM.

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    I wouldn't call it obsolete, though I would say that compressing the meta data separately at the cost of slightly larger file size might be desirable to some users.

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    Re: Don't you think TAR is obsolete?

    Exactly. My whole archive weighs 1000 mb, and the bz2 compressed text file with all the contents, their sizes and permissions weighs 430 kb. I'm sure it's not critical for 99% of the users.

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