I have posted my problems for help and people have been very good as usual in the forums and tried to help but what they suggest does not work and there are so many people with networking problems my post is sinking fast. I upgraded two pc's a laptop with wireless networking on which i have had no problems and my main pc which has a wired connection to the internet or it used to before i upgraded, i will be going back to gutsy soon if networking can't be made to work, and i will not be upgrading on day one again.
it's so easy to reconcile everyone if we say instead of "ubuntu 8.04 suck", "ubuntu 8.04 sucks for me on my particular hardware". that's simple to comprehend and to accept
The limits of my language mean the limits of my world
I certainly am not saying hardy is a crap o.s. i am not qualified to pontificate. What i am saying is that it is no good for me if my main pc will not connect to the internet.
I've upgraded my laptop to 8.04 with no problems. In fact love the simplicity of creating a folder to share on a network. I've struggled with Samba before and just gave up on it.
On my desktop where I did a completely new install of 8.04 the only issue I had was apparently with Compix. So I turned off desktop effects and all is well.
The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done.
I am still waiting to upgrade, mostly because I don't want to take the time to fix problems if they occur. I can see why people would be frustrated when they upgrade, but I also feel that people need to be a little patient. There are tons of people upgrading right now and I'm assuming this is causing a bump in the number of people looking for help. Meanwhile, there is less experience with the current system, since it was just released, so it makes sense that it would be more difficult to get good help/advice.
While it's exciting to see people moving towards Linux, it's hard on the community to have much of the attitude that comes along with general end user/consumers who are used to having everything either work out of the box or having to return a product since support is essential non-existent in most tech corporations.
This also begs the question about whether the live cd is an ample test method and whether or not people use this before install to figure out what problems they may have or need to fix.
I'm not sure what you mean by the security thing. Not that I tried the gnome desktop for a long time, but I mostly found convenient stuff, like automatically asking for password when it was needed. (mounting of disks) You could also choose to save the password in the keyring, which is nice if you don't care that much.
Btw: Is there some kind of "base ubuntu"? That includes all the hardware compatibility stuff (suspend does not work in debian for me) but not all the crap. <snip> ? EDIT: oh my... rephrased: (In my opinion most of gnome is crap. No offense)
Last edited by olejorgen; April 29th, 2008 at 12:11 AM. Reason: Getting rid of flame bait (rephrasing "flamebait")
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Using Linux-only PC powered since december 2004, Ubuntu user since june 2006.
Acer Laptop 5520g / Ubuntu 9.04 - AMD64.
why cant you tolerate that people cant tolerate criticism? think about it.No, it looks like a frustrated user to me. Gosh why can't you people tolerate criticism.
secondly, there is constructive criticism and then there is ranting and raving like a spoiled 5yr old kid. those who act like the latter will be treated as such.
Last edited by wolfen69; April 28th, 2008 at 07:13 PM.